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NFL considering replacement player options? May 6 5/6/2010 7:45:04 AM | More These are anxious times for those looking to latch on to the NFL. It's also an interesting time for the teams, as they look ahead to the possibility of a lock out in 2011. Fringe players might become starters if there's a long labor dispute. The NFL went with replacement players in 1987 during the last protracted labor stalemate. The league might already be making preparations and rumors are they are going to buy a 25 percent stake in the United Football League according to Kevin Lynch of the San Francisco Chronicle. The UFL, which now has five teams and plays six games in the fall, could become a feeder league along the line of NFL Europe. However, if there's a long lockout, UFL players could possibly become NFL players overnight. http://www.theredzone.org
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Nice find...
The NFL has not come out and said they WON'T use replacement players, therefore some of this article could be true. Replacement players would be a really ignorant move, especially since the use of them would mainly be hurting those most loyal to the sport. The season seat holders. That's Dirty pool on the owners behalf....
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Batterman says CBA negotiations are "as far apart as I could imagine" May 10 5/10/2010 11:36:24 AM | More In an interview with Michael Waxenberg of the Hofstra Chronicle, Bob Batterman, the labor attorney representing the NFL presented an unpromising view of the negotiations with the players union. At this point we are as far apart as I could imagine,” Batterman said. Batterman represented the NHL when they had a lockout year and was a big part of drafting Major League Soccer’s first CBA. According to Batterman, “Owners do not feel there are incentives to invest in the business because they don’t believe they’re making enough out of it. For the investments they make and the risks they take, owners feel there is a disconnect between what the players get and the owners get. An example of a way to deal with this is to install a rookie salary cap and tighten it up so less money is going to unproven players. Also, there is the issue of forfeitures. Currently, a player who receives a bonus and ends up in jail gets to keep that bonus. The owners would like to change that.” There were recent reports that the owners were holding back financial information from the union. Batterman accuses these reports of being an attempt to create public leverage. “The union has received all the information it is required to see such as the revenue information and audit rights, but what they are asking for is something the law does not provide for. The net profit information never goes to a union. It is none of their business whether the owners make a one dollar profit or a 100 million dollar profit,” he said. “The only way the union is required to see that information is if the owners are pleading poverty, which they are not. The owners are making money under the current CBA; just not what they deem is their fair share. The NBA recently and the NHL in 2004 provided the union with such financial numbers and the unions claimed to not believe the figures. This is why we feel providing our net profit information is useless and unnecessary.” Under the current CBA agreement players get 60% of all revenues. Batterman says under the owners’ latest proposal, “We want to get credited for 18% of costs we currently don’t get credit for, before giving the players their 60% share of revenue.” He also says the owners have no intention of changing that 60% number. Another key factor heading into these negotiations is how new NFLPA president DeMaurice Smith will do. Following the late Gene Upshaw is no cakewalk. “It’s not for me to say whether he has done a good job, it’s for the players,” Batterman said. “It’s his first year on the job, there’s a lot to learn. He’s very smart, articulate and a forceful spokesperson. I have nothing negative to say. Whether he’s doing a good job or not…that will come out in the wash, it depends how the negotiations go.” www.theredzone.org
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According to Batterman, “Owners do not feel there are incentives to invest in the business because they don’t believe they’re making enough out of it. For the investments they make and the risks they take, owners feel there is a disconnect between what the players get and the owners get. An example of a way to deal with this is to install a rookie salary cap and tighten it up so less money is going to unproven players. Also, there is the issue of forfeitures. Currently, a player who receives a bonus and ends up in jail gets to keep that bonus. The owners would like to change that.”
Owners do take a big financial risk,, but it could be said that the players take a risk with thier health and well being.. Which is the greater risk? I'd say the players lives are the greater risk.
As for the second part of that,, the bonus money not being returned if the player breaks the law and can't perform,,, yeah, I agree the owners should get that money back.. No question in my mind..
Example,, Stallworth gets a bonus (I forgot the amount but it was significant) next day, kills a guy while driving under the influence.. Can't play but kept the bonus.. That's just wrong..
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Under the current CBA agreement players get 60% of all revenues. Batterman says under the owners’ latest proposal, “We want to get credited for 18% of costs we currently don’t get credit for, before giving the players their 60% share of revenue.” He also says the owners have no intention of changing that 60% number.
Has anybody heard anything about what the 18% of costs the owners are talking about represent? Is it salaries? Is it benefits? Is it security costs at the stadium? The price of beer? This is something I have not read anything about until this article.
Seems to me that, if these costs represent things that benefit the players, the players should be willing to pay for at least part of these additional costs. Without knowing what these costs represent, however, it's hard to make an argument one way or another.
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It's not salaries...that's covered by the 60% that goes to the players. Benefits is probably a small portion of it.
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Under the current CBA agreement players get 60% of all revenues. Batterman says under the owners’ latest proposal, “We want to get credited for 18% of costs we currently don’t get credit for, before giving the players their 60% share of revenue.” He also says the owners have no intention of changing that 60% number.
Has anybody heard anything about what the 18% of costs the owners are talking about represent? Is it salaries? Is it benefits? Is it security costs at the stadium? The price of beer? This is something I have not read anything about until this article.
Seems to me that, if these costs represent things that benefit the players, the players should be willing to pay for at least part of these additional costs. Without knowing what these costs represent, however, it's hard to make an argument one way or another.
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/65137
Last season, the NFL took in about $8.5 billion in revenue. Under terms of the CBA renewal in 2006, $1 billion from that sum was taken off the top to help the owners cover their costs. That left $7.5 billion that was shared with the players. It’s off this sum that the league has proposed what it describes as an 18 percent credit in order to cover costs that the owners contend the already existing credits do not cover.
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I have another ticketing question.. lol.
I am seriously considering going to Tampa in September & want to incorporate the Browns game into my itinerary..
Does anyone know if any groups of Browns fans will be in attendance & I could buy seats with them (ex. Browns Backers)?
Also, has anyone seen a game in Tampa? If so, what is ticket availability like? From what I have seen of their attendance & read on other boards, tickets to see the Bucs are not that hard to come by.
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Start with the Browns Backers of the Pinellas. I don't know if they can help, but that was the group that had a big party when I was down in 2002. Fun group.
I got my tickets through a TB group that does pregame party of their own and that worked out well. A little pricey, but I had great lower level seats. Can't remember what their name was though, so sorry on that front.
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Wow, Gift Horse! Good read. I didna know this. What you mention is believable scenario if the NFL is growth positioning after the Europe "experiment." Not looking forward to strike ball, but hope we are in it to win it if it comes. Interesting. Have heard rumors, but this may have some meat on the bones even in planning stages. Thanks! 
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Does anyone recommend any classifieds or sites that buy/sell Browns PSLs?
I had a deal I wanted to complete with a guy selling his 2 PSLs on ebay but I couldn't commit to them until after he had sold them. Sad story, I know.. Anywho, everything has been cleared up and I want in.
Any help is appreciated.
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