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Phillies fan tasered by police after running onto field
May 3, 2010
CBSSports.com wire reports
PHILADELPHIA -- The Philadelphia Phillies are looking into further use of Taser guns after a police officer shocked a teenage fan who ran onto the field Monday night.
An official chases the fan during the game. (AP)
The fan hopped a fence and scurried around the outfield, eluding two security officers late in the game against the St. Louis Cardinals. One officer used a Taser and the fan went down in a heap.
The Phillies say the police department is investigating the matter and discussing with the team whether it's appropriate use of force under similar circumstances.
The teams says it's the first time a Taser has been used by police to apprehend a spectator who ran onto the field.
The Phillies say the fan was 17-year-old male and he will be charged with criminal trespass and related offenses. They did not release his name because he is a juvenile.
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where is the video? Don't tase me bro!!!! 
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I say Tase on! Maybe next time the idiots will think twice before going on the field.
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I say Tase on! Maybe next time the idiots will think twice before going on the field.
I agree 100%. After those goofballs attacked that first base coach a few years ago, I think you need to take these people down.
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LOL! He dropped like a box of rocks. I agree that after those idiot White Sox fans attacked that KC coach, you've got to stop people on the field ASAP. Zap away!
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I say Tase on! Maybe next time the idiots will think twice before going on the field.
Agreed
They should of hit him twice for good measure.
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I saw a die after being tazed about 2 years ago outside a bar. They tazed him, we went down hit his head on the concrete, and died from acardiac arrest before the ambulance arrived. I am not a fan of tazing unless absolutely neccessary. Tazing a 17 yr old running on the field is pretty stupid.
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a 17 yr old running on the field is pretty stupid.
Fixed that part. lol
Maybe in the past running onto a field was a harmless lark, but with people being attacked and stabbed at sporting events you should be considered dangerous until you are made not dangerous. Maybe this event will be the one that gets people to stop acting so stupidly and they stay off the field.
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Maybe in the past running onto a field was a harmless lark, but with people being attacked and stabbed at sporting events you should be considered dangerous until you are made not dangerous. Maybe this event will be the one that gets people to stop acting so stupidly and they stay off the field.
Maybe - but you can pretty easily pick out the type of people who are harmlessly running on the field, vs the type that are going to hurt someone.....
This kid was clearly out there for the running around part - so i think the taser is unnecessary....
if he had run at a player, or had started to fight anybody - then i'm all for bringing him down with a taser - but he had not done anything violent, or threateningly violent, at that point
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This is starting to sound like the Arizona immigration law thread.
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The problem is I don't think you can determine intent by looking at someone. Now if they shot him, I'd have a problem with that, but tazing? If you don't want to get tazed, don't run on the field! Fans need to wise up.
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I wonder what this rocket scientist expected the outcome to be. I won't be surprised if we hear about some lawsuit against the Phillies organization in the next week or so.
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if he had run at a player, or had started to fight anybody - then i'm all for bringing him down with a taser - but he had not done anything violent, or threateningly violent, at that point
He broke the law by even entering the field, now you advocate waiting until all that is left is a split second decision to determine if he is going to hurt someone or not? In addition apparently the police department guidelines give the officer the ability to tase a fleeing suspect. So everything else is just opinion...
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He broke the law by even entering the field, now you advocate waiting until all that is left is a split second decision to determine if he is going to hurt someone or not?
I'm not saying split second - he was running away and waving a shirt -- it fits no profile of somebody who is close to fighting... if it was at all a 'gray area' (whether he would fight or not), then i'd be ok with the taser...this was not that.
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In addition apparently the police department guidelines give the officer the ability to tase a fleeing suspect. So everything else is just opinion...
I agree that it's not illegal - and the police department won't be held responsible - I'm just giving an opinion - I think that overall, police are too fast to use tasers.
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Lyuokdea it isn't just the threat of violence that makes these situations dangerous. What may seem like a funny thing can cause injury to other spectators, players and security even if it is not intended. Maybe a person getting tazed will stop others from trying this, because this event is pretty harmless compared to what may have been happening. 
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Lyuokdea it isn't just the threat of violence that makes these situations dangerous. What may seem like a funny thing can cause injury to other spectators, players and security even if it is not intended. Maybe a person getting tazed will stop others from trying this, because this event is pretty harmless compared to what may have been happening.
And in that situation - a taser would have been more than defensible (the rush those guys ended up getting from the royals probably hurt worse than the taser) - in that situation you're starting to get to the points where firing shots would have been defensible (given that it was two guys, and the victim was 70 something and on the ground)
but let's not pretend that those situations were at all similar - other than the fact that both happened on a baseball field
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I've seen guys get tackled by players on NFL fields for running on the field like an idiot. I would bet that feels a lot worse the next day then being tazed.
Bottom line if you don't want to be punished don't do the crime. In this case giong on the field is a crime and being tased was the punishment. I'm sure a lot more people will second guess doing it in the future after this.
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but let's not pretend that those situations were at all similar - other than the fact that both happened on a baseball field
Because we have the luxury of looking back at it after the fact...that isn't a luxury that is provided during the event.
People that knew the kid didn't think he should have been tazed...but not everybody knew him. He put himself, and others around him, in a bad situation. If it was my little brother I would say the cop didnt need to hit him with a taser too. But that's why people need to stop doing these types of things...not everyone knows they are just going to be a harmless, albeit expensive, sideshow.
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Of course there's risk. But, the risk to everyone else is severely lowered as well as not having the same permanent effects seen from other deterrents like physical beatings, etc.
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The two incidents weren't very similar you're right......but there isn't much time to determine which one might happen next. The guys at the Sox game ran onto the field, security guards were watching them thinking they were just going to run around, and were too late to stop the beating. And once the beating was happening, you couldn't just taze them without maybe tazing Tom Gamboa too (the 1st base coach).
As for this young kid, sure he was playing to the crowd and goofing around....but if he took a b-line towards a ground crew person, player, or umpire and stabbed/shot/beat them everyone would feel pretty bad for giving him the time to setup his attack. Again, I know....he probably wasn't setting up the attack of the century on Albert Pujols. But, you never know. And once it changes from a drunk loon being an attention whore to a drunk loon attacking a person....it's too late to taze or stop them. At that point, you're only picking up the pieces then.
So.........stop them when you can. Tazing does seem to be a bit much. However, it's a grass field and the guy was asking for it. If it was an NBA game, I still probably not care if someone was tazed then hit his head. If you rush a court/field then you're accepting the risk of getting blindsided by an NFL player, beaten by a security guard, or tazed by a cop.
Maybe this is too far off....when Dimebag Darryl and others were killed at that concert years back, the dude was allowed to walk onto the stage and open fire. Maybe if the security had a zero-tollerance policy the attack wouldn't have been so awful. I know there are only seconds to react but that's securities job.
So, I say taze, beat, and pummel anyone that's stupid enough to run onto the court/field/pitch/stage......ask questions later. This kid is lucky he isn't missing any teeth.
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Here is another 'controversial' tasering at a baseball game. 62 year old tasered at A's gameFrom the article: Quote:
On the other, shouldn't police have enough training to restrain a 62-year-old man without resorting to violently Tasering him in front of a baseball crowd that includes children?
Now those that know your meme may recognize the '62 year old' man in the film(by voice) as "Epic Beard Man". Those not familiar can follow this link. The link has bad language and some blood please do not listen to at work or around children.
Now Epic Beard Man can take care of himself obviously but people at the game thought he was a harmless old man and the police used too much force. However EBM is not quite all there and has quite an arrest record...and he can throw a fist or two.
Hindsight makes it easier but it isn't something the people have access to during the fact.
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Is "Epic Beard Man" the guy whose tshirt proclaims what he is?
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Why yes Adam, I do believe he is. lol
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If you want to be a look-at-me seeking, attention whore ... then prepare to get tased. If we did it more often, then maybe we'd have less of these idiots running onto the field.
What's the alternative anyway?? Tackle him to the ground? (He could of broke his arm! That was senseless aggression!) Spray him down with mace? (That released toxic fumes into the air that endangered everyones health!) Shoot him in the genatailia with an anti-riot shotgun? (Excessive beanbag on beanbag violence!)
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at first, I thought the thread title read: " 'Philly Fanatic' Tased for Running on Field." Now that I'd pay good money to see.... The "Fanatic" twitching and rolling around in the dirt by 3rd base... almost as much fun as watching Terry Bradshaw doing the same after being used to "drill, baby, drill" by 'Big Daddy' Carl Hairston... 
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Even mascot abuse couldn't make the Indians entertaining, but tasing Slider would be a good start. BTW, it was Joe Jones that planted Bradshaw. 
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yep...you're absolutely right. Turkey Joe Jones it was.
must be early-onset Alzheimer's.
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I say Tase on! Maybe next time the idiots will think twice before going on the field.
I agree 100%. After those goofballs attacked that first base coach a few years ago, I think you need to take these people down.
Couldn't agree more. If you step on the field, you get tased! Should be a standing policy!
Isn't this the same kid whose father or the kid called into the stadium to ask permission and the stadium or police said no?
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Why yes Adam, I do believe he is. lol
Epic Beard Man is Awesome!! I loved that guys original You Tube that made him semi famous. Just a tough old war vet that dont take nothing from anybody
I wonder if he got tased because he asked the cops to shine his shoes?
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This is starting to sound like the Arizona immigration law thread.
Well if it was a brown skinned man of Hispanic heritage nobody would have gave a damn if he got tased!!
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Well if it was a brown skinned man of Hispanic heritage nobody would have gave a damn if he got tased!!
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No, if he were brown skinned, the aclu would be all over it, Sharpton would be out with his megaphone, and all hell would break loose with marches and riots.
A white guy gets tased for breaking the law? No biggie. No marches, no protests, no aclu - nothing.
Now, I'm not saying I agree with the action, or disagree with it. Okay?
But I bet they won't have other fans running on the field anytime soon.
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But I bet they won't have other fans running on the field anytime soon.
a fan ran on the field the next night. he was just smart enough to 'stop' when the police told him to.
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Unlike Monday's controversial incident, police were not involved in the subsequent chase, and Betz was apprehended by security guards without incident -- much to the disappointment of the fans chanting "Tase him!"
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Well - that guy was an idiot I guess. 
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You'd think that Mankind would have shown some progress in the last 40 years or so....
...oh, wait- He has....
...at least in 2010, he runs on the field while actually wearing clothes.
Kinda wish they had tasers back during the heyday of "streaking"???
uh- now that I think about it...
...maybe some things are as they should be.
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