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Just saw on Sports Center that Boise St. will announce today that it will be joining the Mountain West confrence.
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Come on Kansas and K-State  Would make for a pretty solid Basketball conference and the football is not too shabby either.
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I want Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Nebraska, and Notre Dame. If they can't land Notre Dame, ill take A&m.
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I'd love to see Kansas to the Big Ten for the basketball. And start breaking up the Big East by taking West Virginia AND Pitt.
Missouri? Rutgers? Yaaaaawwwwnnnn . . .
UConn would be nice, though.
Whatever happens, I would say it was all for nothing if, In the end, Notre Dame doesn't join the Big Ten.
Here's a question. Now that the dominoes are falling, is it possible for the big conferences to REMOVE weaker teams in order to insure that things happen?
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I don't think that's going to happen this time around. I also don't know if it can happen, to be honest with you. I know, for instance, that it takes an 8-3 vote or better to add a team to the Big 10 conference. I doubt it's any easier to dump a team.
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Wasn't talking about Kansas to the Big Ten... however that may be cool. But I'm a MWC homer (I have lived 14 years in Colorado Springs)
Remember though, the Big Ten is looking for expansion of markets, and while KU would be an awesome addition with Missouri, nothing would be greater than getting 'Cuse or Rutgers to have an in to the New York schools.
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I wonder if the AD's are going to start holding press conferences where they sit at a table with three hats from each conference that wants them to join. 
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Remember though, the Big Ten is looking for expansion of markets, and while KU would be an awesome addition with Missouri, nothing would be greater than getting 'Cuse or Rutgers to have an in to the New York schools.
Yeah, I know. It's been debated out the yin yang on local sports radio here in Columbus whether or not getting Rutgers would really get a big piece of the New York market. The example used was barely anyone in this market is going to scramble to the TV to turn on Rutgers @ Wisconsin.
To me Syracuse basketball seems WAY better than Rutgers football.
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To me Syracuse basketball seems WAY better than Rutgers football.
Exactally that's why I want syracuse more than a lot of other schools.
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Rutgers vs. Wisconsin sounds bad now.....but if Rutgers starts getting huge Big Ten Network money, players start signing to Rutgers cause they're in a Big Four conference (more TV chances, better players to play against, bigger chance at being drafted), and both teams have good records.....you never know.
A team like Rutgers could become very good in a bigger conference with more money to spend. And when I say "very good", I mean they could make a run now and again. Just like how a random Big Ten celler dweller comes up to challenge for a conference title every so often.
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They barely make a run every now and again. More like every other decade. 
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nebraska - check
wisconsin - check
indiana - check
rutgers - pack your bags scarlet knights
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ESPN Link LINCOLN, Neb. -- Nebraska made it official Friday and applied for membership in the Big Ten Conference, a potentially crippling blow to the Big 12 and the biggest move yet in an offseason overhaul that will leave college sports looking much different by this time next year.
Chancellor Harvey Perlman disclosed the plan during a meeting of the university's Board of Regents, proposing that play in the new conference begin in 2011 after one more year in the Big 12. He said he believed Nebraska is much more "aligned" with the Big Ten than the Big 12 when it comes to academics, culture and athletics.
The move offers stability "that the Big 12 simply cannot offer," Perlman said, and the regents unanimously approved a resolution supporting a move to the Big Ten.
Nebraska must be accepted by Big Ten presidents and Perlman said he expected that vote to come soon. The Big Ten confirmed it had Nebraska's application but offered no timeline for a decision. More in the link. And lots of chatter going on about Texas, TT, Oklahoma, and Ok St. annoucing on Tuesday that they'll be joining the Pac-10. A&M would go to the SEC. The Big Ten honks might be getting worried. Without Texas or ND...they're gonna look like they failed. They started the ball in motion and might end up getting rolled over in the process. Texas or ND needed to join to make the Big Ten a powerhouse.
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it wouldn't be nearly as splashy for headlines, but if the Big10 turns their attention east and gets:
school (market)
BC (Boston/Mass)
Rutgers (NJ - possibly NYC, but tough sell there)
Maryland (DC, Baltimore, Annapolis)
UConn (Hartford...possibly some Rhode Island/NYC as well)
they would do a lot of good for the conference. honestly, because of the Big10 network expansion possibilities, Maryland might be the 3rd best team to get (after Texas, then Notre Dame).
would Maryland jump from the ACC?
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There is talk that Maryland might jump to the Big10. From what is going around the experts pretty much expect Texas, Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St to announce they are going to the Pac10 on Tuesday and Texas A&M is still mulling over possibly going to the SEC. Notre Dame is expected to end up joining the Big10 so they don't get left out.
So for the Big10 to get to 16 who else might they target?
Maryland
Missouri
Rutgers
Syracuse
Boston College
If A&M goes to the SEC what other three schools will they target and which school will the Pac10 get to reach 16?
I expect the ACC to raid the Big East especially if the Big 10 takes Boston College or Maryland or both.
Right now the Pac10 only needs 1 school to get to 12, Big10 is at twelve, there is still a possibility that the Pac10 only adds one more and the Big12 either stays at ten or grabs a few from the MWC to get back to 12 and the super confrence doesn't happen.
By tuesday we will know what the 4-5 members of the Big12 South are going to do and if the Super Confrence happens.
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here's what I expect:
If Pac10 stays at '12' and just adds the new Big12 (which has 10) to a TV contract, then they'll add Utah. This doesn't make sense though because they would be splitting up the pie more by including the Kansas schools, Baylor and Iowa State.
If it becomes the Pac16, then: TX, Tech, OU, OkieState all join.
A&M gets first dibs for the last slot, but Utah/Kansas are both nipping at their heels to take over if they defect to the SEC, which I think they will. If so, I think the Pac16 surprising some and takes Utah.
If the Big10 expands to 16, the extra 4: Maryland, BC, UConn, Rutgers.
They also target ND (who thumbs their nose, see below), Syracuse (they don't add as much market as UConn), Virginia (blue-blood ACC isn't leaving for a Yankee conference), VaTech (see below), A&M (SEC), Texas (Pac16), and possibly Kansas (see below).
SEC quietly adds to their market size and strength: A&M, VaTech, Kansas, West Virginia
ACC recovers as best they can after losing 3 schools with: Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame
ACC does not see the benefit of going to 16 because, quite frankly, there are not 4 more teams worth adding to them though Mizzou gets mentioned.
either new conference or C-USA with a new look is formed out of some of the remaining parts
C-USA East
Louisville
Cincinatti
USF
East Carolina
UCF
Memphis
UAB
Southern Miss
C-USA West
K-State
Baylor
Missouri - which will be on the look-out for a new conference with better academic standing
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Rice
Tulane
(sorry UTEP and Marshall)
MWC replaces Utah with Iowa State
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If Missouri is not on the MWC's target list there's something wrong. Especially if Utah decides to high tail it. And I would hope that KU and KSU is also just as high on that list. Houston would be the next target after that... along with Fresno.
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I'm kind of interested in how you arrived at your Big 10 choices .... because most of them have not been associated with Big 10 interests yet.
I have really not heard UConn, BC, or Maryland in the Big 10 mix.
I really don't see Notre Dame completely blowing up the works by accepting/not accepting a Big 10 invitation. I think that we're past that stage now.
I do think that Missouri will be invited to join the Big 10, along with Nebraska. I think that Rutgers is going to be in. The other choice is Notre Dame or someone else.
I could be completely wrong ..... but i just don't see them going completely off the (thus far) visible track they have been on.
Oh, and I do think that Notre Dame will join the Big 10. Them going to some smaller, watered down ACC would not do a thing for their national image.
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If Missouri is not on the MWC's target list there's something wrong. Especially if Utah decides to high tail it. And I would hope that KU and KSU is also just as high on that list. Houston would be the next target after that... along with Fresno.
you are right. I neglected Mizzou at first when coming up with the list and put them on at the end. If Utah leaves, I would definitely suspect they join the MWC.
switch them and Iowa State.
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I'm kind of interested in how you arrived at your Big 10 choices .... because most of them have not been associated with Big 10 interests yet.
I have heard some on Maryland but nothing big.
Mostly going off Delaney's comments of wanting market size with academic reputation.
Biggest markets left to grab are: Boston, NYC, NJ, DC/Baltimore. (assuming we can't land Texas and I just really have a Romeo-gut feeling that ND snubs the Big10).
So, I went with the best choices that would dominate those markets and with teams that 'could' be persuaded to leave.
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Big Ten Unanimously Approves Nebraska's Membership. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...overlist_footerBig Ten unanimously approves Nebraska's membership June 11, 2010 CBSSports.com wire reports LINCOLN, Neb. -- Paterno vs. Pelini. Huskers vs. Hawkeyes. Trips to Columbus, Ohio, instead of Columbia, Mo. So long, Big 12. Nebraska's membership in the Big Ten Conference is official. The Big Ten's board of presidents and chancellors unanimously welcomed Nebraska to the club on Friday afternoon, a little more than an hour after the school announced it had applied for membership. The move takes effect July 1, 2011. Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman said the Big Ten offers stability "that the Big 12 simply cannot offer." Nebraska is the Big Ten's first addition since 1990, when Penn State became the 11th member, and it comes just six months after the league announced that it was looking at expansion. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said he presumed there would be a Big Ten championship football game beginning in 2011. He also said the conference would "pause" from further expansion over the next 12 to 18 months. He declined to comment on whether Notre Dame or any other school was on the league's radar. Delany, wearing a red-and-white tie and a 'N' lapel pin, said he anticipates a wonderful marriage between Nebraska and the Big Ten. "This beautiful girl, quite honestly, wasn't going to be there forever," Delany said, referring to the Huskers. "They were faced with some tough decisions. We had done enough personal interaction with them that we felt this would be a great fit. We encouraged Nebraska to go down that road." Nebraska leaves behind a Big 12 that had already lost Colorado to the Pac-10 this week. Perlman also said the Pac-10 had been in touch with many schools in the Big 12 South, suggesting Texas, Oklahoma and others could be the next to leave. "We were worried about stability in the conference," athletic director Tom Osborne said, "and as a result we thought this was by far the best thing we could do." Nebraska's move to the Big Ten is the biggest yet in an offseason overhaul that will leave college sports looking much different by this time next year. "We've had a couple disappointing days with the departure of two valued members," Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said during a teleconference. Beebe vowed to work to keep the 10 remaining members together but acknowledged that other Big 12 schools are mulling their options. Perlman said he believed Nebraska is much more "aligned" with the Big Ten than the Big 12 when it comes to academics, culture and athletics. And he said Nebraska shouldn't be considered the "bad guy" in the Big 12. "One school leaving a conference does not destroy a conference," Perlman said. "Nebraska did not start this discussion. After the Big Ten announced it planned to consider expansion, we saw reports that Missouri would want to go to the Big Ten, including a statement by their governor, a member of board of curators and chancellor -- comments that weren't clearly supportive of the Big 12." Perlman said the Big 12 had given Nebraska a Monday ultimatum to decide what to do. Perlman said Beebe requested that Nebraska publicly commit to staying put until at least 2016, but the chancellor said he couldn't do that because no other Big 12 school would do the same. The biggest deal-breaker, Perlman said, was that Texas would not agree to promise to assign its broadcast rights to the Big 12 rather than explore starting its own TV network. To generations of Nebraska fans, going to the Big Ten at one time would have been unthinkable. The school's athletic tradition is built on more than a century of football games against the likes of Missouri and Kansas, dating to the days the team was known as the Bugeaters. The Huskers, in fact, have been conference partners with Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and Kansas State since 1928; with Colorado since 1948 and with Oklahoma State since 1960. Now the Huskers are on the verge of taking their five national titles in football, three Heisman trophies and enthusiastic fans east. They will look to start building new traditions, like a border rivalry with the Iowa Hawkeyes and regular trips to Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State. At Iowa State, a Big 12 school rarely mentioned in realignment discussions, officials sent an open letter to boosters expressing disappointment in the moves by Colorado and Nebraska. "But as all of the discussions about conference realignment illustrate, the future of college athletics appears to be less about academics and competitive success and more about money, as measured by television viewership and the associated revenues," the letter said. Fatter paychecks will be coming to Nebraska, eventually. Nebraska received about $10 million from the Big 12 in 2009, half the $20 million received by Big Ten members (thanks largely to bigger television contracts and the in-house Big Ten Network). The Big Ten told Perlman that no current member would receive a reduced share of revenue from the conference because of the addition of a new member. Perlman said Nebraska has been assured it would not receive less than it did in the Big 12, however, if it joins the Big Ten. "This is not a financial windfall," Osborne said. Delany has said he wanted to add only members that would be considered "home runs." The Huskers' football team struggled in the early and mid 2000s but have returned to national prominence the past two seasons under coach Bo Pelini, an Ohio State alumnus. As for the Big 12, it never was a comfortable fit for the Huskers. When the league formed, Nebraska football was at its pinnacle, having won three national titles between 1994-97 and winning 60 of 63 games before Osborne retired as coach. That success didn't translate to juice when it came to influencing league policies. Nebraska and the old Big Eight members, all of whom went to the Big 12, believed they were helping out Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor when the old Southwest Conference collapsed. The perception in Nebraska was that the Big 12's balance of power was held by the South Division, particularly Texas. Nebraska from day one was against a championship game in football, for fear it could trip up a team bidding for a national title. But even issues ranging from academic admission standards to location of the league office (Dallas) chafed Nebraska. When the league last week picked Cowboys Stadium to host the next three conference championship football games - after hosting the 2009 and 2010 games - Osborne complained that continual treks south are unfair to fans of the North representative. "This is not about any type of vindictiveness," Osborne said. "You don't make a decision of this size based on where you're going to play Big 12 championship games."
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Figured you would like that. Really, it seems like everyone wins. Even the ACC while getting 'stuck' at 12 and 'losing' 3 teams ends up with Notre Dame and it's not like Pitt and Syracuse are bad grabs for them either.
(well, the conferences win...a few teams get left out of course)
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Kansas State would be another option. Baylor, however, would not be.
On the same day the MWC officially added Boise State, sources said TCU will lobby the MWC against Baylor's inclusion should the Big 12 school be left out of the impending conference realignment.
The league is leaving the door open to pluck other schools to boost their résumé to earn an automatic BCS bid. There are two more years remaining on a four-year evaluation period to get the automatic BCS bid.
With the addition of Boise State, the MWC hopes it can get a temporary BCS automatic qualifier status in 2012 and 2013.
Adding a couple more Big 12 schools would only help. And it looks as if more will be available. Colorado will join the Pac-10 and Nebraska the Big Ten, leaving the remaining schools of the Big 12 in limbo.
All signs point to Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State departing the Big 12. That would leave a few available schools, most notably Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri to potentially join the MWC.
Despite success in nearly every sport but football, Baylor may not be so welcome in another MWC expansion. Some TCU officials and powerful alums remain irked over the way Baylor was included in the Big 12 after the breakup of the Southwest Conference. The Frogs were left out.
The MWC will consist of 10 members when the Broncos begin play in the conference in the 2011-12 academic year.
There have been discussions and scenarios involving 12, 14 or 16 schools in the MWC, conference championship games and more. It all depends on whether teams such as Missouri, Kansas and the others can't find a conference they like better.
Adding Kansas or Missouri would only further enhance the MWC's attempt to earn an automatic BCS bid.
"The Mountain West wants to be a national player and continue to grow in that realm." MWC commissioner Craig Thompson said. "We are extremely interested in BCS automatic qualification. We are simply trying to get to the level where each and every year a Mountain West team is playing in a BCS bowl game."
With the Broncos, the MWC features three teams that have earned at-large BCS berths: Boise State (2) and one each for Utah and TCU. Boise State is 26-1 in the past two seasons as a member of the Western Athletic Conference and defeated TCU 17-10 in the Fiesta Bowl in January.
"I think when you look at all the stuff that is happening you have to make sure you take care of your own. That's what's happening," TCU athletic director Chris Del Conte said.
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I have a feeling the big 10 or 12 likes where they are and I prefer to stay there.
Things make sense right now. The 16 team talk is ludicrous to me.
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It's all in point of escalation.
As I've said, it's a game of Chess only you don't have to wait for the other guy to go. The Pac and the Big ten are staring each other in the face with blood shot eyes daring each other to make a play.
This is not over by a long shot. There is just too much money to be made.
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Hmmm, I heard they gave Notre Dame till June 15th to decide. Also if the Pac10 adds Texas, Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St on Tuesday then I wonder if this stance will change.
Either way I am surprised we took Nebraska over Missouri. Everything I read said the Big10 was worried about low broadcast revenue out of Nebraska. But Nebraska is a better program and I guess that won out. I'm not dissapointed in their decision.
I can still see the Pac10 adding a school and the Big12 adding two. Everyone else stays put and we don't have the super confrence.  
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How about this ...... Add: Notre Dame Kansas Rutgers Maryland That would add the states of New Jersey, Maryland, and Kansas to the Big 10 Network .... along with big national draw Notre Dame. It would add to the conference in Basketball as well as football. Plus, OSU could kick DC's Maryland Tortises every single year.  LOL OSU Michigan Penn State Maryland Rutgers Michigan State Illinois Minnesota Nebraska Notre Dame Kansas Iowa Indiana Purdue Wisconsin Northwestern That would be one seriously loaded conference, and would be a highly competitive one at that. Make it happen Big 10 ..... Be the leader and make this 16 team behemoth work. I want to hear those famous words ..... "It's alive .... Alive ....!!!"
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i'm not disappointed either, but Nebraska was apparently able to convince Delaney that they could get the KC market, which helped their cause immensely.
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Things make sense right now. The 16 team talk is ludicrous to me.
I'm not happy at all with any of it, but it is what it is. So be it.
Hopefully Notre Dame gets its extinguisher out and douses the flame. If they don't get into a conference, Irish football will cease to exist in ten years. Now I wonder what Army and Navy are looking at too.
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I have a feeling the big 10 or 12 likes where they are and I prefer to stay there.
Things make sense right now. The 16 team talk is ludicrous to me.
I'm not happy at all with any of it, but it is what it is. So be it.
Hopefully Notre Dame gets its extinguisher out and douses the flame. If they don't get into a conference, Irish football will cease to exist in ten years. Now I wonder what Army and Navy are looking at too.
All this BS is just gonna make the SEC even stronger than it already was.
1) The 16 team confrences is going to happen. Maybe not this year or next but it will happen.
2) The only way the SEC gets stronger is if they four schools they add are Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. Out of those four I've only heard A&M are interested the rest may announce on Tuesday they intend to join the Pac10.
3) Notre Dame can't extingush anything. The rest of the Confrences will move along with out them and they will be shut out of the BCS. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain if they intend to stay independent if/when the ACC, Big10, SEC and the Pac10 go to 16 teams and leave the NCAA.
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Kinda crazy.  http://www.cbssports.com/general/story/1...headlines;otherFedEx CEO could provide millions if BCS-affiliated league takes Memphis June 12, 2010 By Gary Parrish CBSSports.com Senior Writer FedEx CEO Fred Smith has spoken to various conference officials and made it known that his Memphis-based company could provide millions of dollars -- perhaps as much as $10 million annually -- to a BCS-affiliated league willing to offer an invitation to the University of Memphis, multiple sources close to the Memphis program have told CBSSports.com. "It could be $10 million every year for a conference to use however it sees fit," said one of the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "When you think of the big picture, it could be the equivalent of a five-year, $50 million contract or a 10-year, $100-million contract. Fred is talking about a massive amount of money." CBSSports.com could not reach Memphis athletic director R.C. Johnson for comment Saturday. However, Johnson joked earlier in the week with reporters that he had "two of the highest paid assistant ADs in the history of mankind" working for him. That comment was in reference to Smith and FedEx chief financial officer Alan Graf, the latter of whom played a major role in the school's search last year to replace John Calipari as its basketball coach. Smith -- whose son Cannon Smith is a quarterback at Memphis -- could not be reached for comment Saturday. Graf did not immediately return an email requesting comment. FedEx has consistently been a top 50 spender in sports advertising over the past decade, according to the Sports Business Journal. In 2009, it spent $51.6 million, placing it 48th among sports advertisers. But it should be noted that FedEx decided last month that it will not renew its entitlement of the Orange Bowl for the first time in 21 years. That move, one of the sources said, helped free money in the budget to possibly push Memphis into a power conference. "The money that used to go to the Orange Bowl is now set to go to a league that will invite Memphis," the source said. "Fred has made it clear he'll put that money back into the budget for the right league. He's driving this thing." Memphis already plays basketball games inside FedExForum -- an 18,000-seat arena where FedEx owns naming rights through a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies. Memphis in a BCS-league and thus on television more often would increase the value of those naming rights, which is something Smith recognizes, the source said before adding that such is only a small part of the motivating factor behind this effort. FedEx also has naming rights on FedExField in Washington. Though almost anything imaginable remains a possibility, the most likely scenario in this ongoing expansion frenzy, according to multiple sources, is for Memphis to receive an invitation from the Big East soon or after some of the Big East's current members move to the Big Ten. But, a source said, "it's hard to tell how this is going to shake out." "All I'm telling you is that R.C. seems very confident," the source said. "He doesn't seem worried at all."
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Probably so.....but then it doesn't need to get much tougher.
I think Texas might be a little reluctant to join the SEC where it might not be the perennial top dog.
I am not saying that in the sense they are chicken or anything like that, but they do want to look out for their interests. They do want to make the best decision they feel helps them the most. In a new PAC 10 they will still be the top school in what might become a eastern division or southern division.
Whoever the SEC adds won't be creampuffs.
I like the fact both the Big 10 and PAC 10 are looking to beef up a bit....it helps them. One loss in a tough conference isn't a killer as has been seen in recent SEC Champions......most people know it is pretty darn tough to run the slate.
All of this is good on just about every level.
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Interesting read on Memphis.
Can anyone say SEC???
Miss St and Ole Miss are just south by a hour or two and there are already 2 SEC teams in the state of Tennessee...one in the est and one in the center.....one in the west makes sense to me.
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Probably so.....but then it doesn't need to get much tougher.
They probabally will if other conferences keep adding teams.
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USC says hi, you know the team that's been more dominant than any SEC school this decade.
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They might have to add a dominant basketball school that sucks in football. Other than Kentucky the next best consistent team is tennessee.
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Interesting read on Memphis.
Can anyone say SEC???
That would be a DAMN good fit. They would start a rivalry with tennessee.
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Probably so.....but then it doesn't need to get much tougher.
They probabally will if other conferences keep adding teams.
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In a new PAC 10 they will still be the top school in what might become a eastern division or southern division.
USC says hi, you know the team that's been more dominant than any SEC school this decade.
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Whoever the SEC adds won't be creampuffs.
They might have to add a dominant basketball school that sucks in football. Other than Kentucky the next best consistent team is tennessee.
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Interesting read on Memphis.
Can anyone say SEC???
That would be a DAMN good fit. They would start a rivalry with tennessee.
They will go to 16 teams as will the others. My point is right now it is the toughest top to bottom. I think the Big 10 knew it needed to beef up a bit....and Nebraska does that....it's a great move.....Neb is a midwest state anyway....it's perfect.
I know USC.....but I have the feeling USC and Texas will be placed in opposite divisions. I know as a Big 10 fan you aren't accustomed to thinking that way, but you, I and everyone else knows which schools are fairly likely to have tops programs year after year and which are going to have good teams on occasion. You are going to try to stack things so there is some balance. I doubt very much USC and Texas are in the same division.....if all 4 of the Texas schools remain together....you will probably see them, AZ, AZ St and 2 others...say Colorado and maybe Stanford in the east or south....whatever they decide to call it....and that leaves Texas as the big player in that division.....like I said, Texas is going to do what's best for Texas...and that sounds like a better ticket to their championship game most years rather than joining the SEC where they would be placed in the west....the weaker division right now, but still has heavyweights in Ala and LSU to play every year.
Memphis adds the BB....and with a SEC tag after the name, they could build a football program to SEC standards.
If you are a good player, you are more likely to want to play for a SEC team, big 10 team etc v a Conf USA team or whatever league they play in.
That is why I keep saying Ga Tech....Tech already plays pretty darn good football that can match with most and they also have a pretty strong rep in roundball as Atlanta is a fertile breeding ground for good basketball players.
These are fun times my man....I am glad to see college athelitics beginning to question why they have to follow rules that were established when players wore raccoon coats and were actual college students studying a major of meaning.
There is no sense sugar coating it any longer. Top college programs are minor league football and provide institutions millions of dollars that don't go anywhere near the AD...somewhere along the way, a good deal of money generated goes towards salaries and petri dishes.
We still need rules mind you, but they need a healthy updating......like starting with paying the players a stipend of some sort. Not a great deal, but enough so the kid on the team has enough cash to take his gal to a movie and have a modest dinner every now and then. It's nearly impossible for these guys to have jobs between practice and study.
If Mom and Dad don't have the means to stick 2-3 hundred a month in to Jr.'s account, the kid is pretty much stuck. I could see paying all scholarship players $250-300 a month for the term of the school year....say 9 months..
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They will go to 16 teams as will the others. My point is right now it is the toughest top to bottom. I think the Big 10 knew it needed to beef up a bit....and Nebraska does that....it's a great move.....Neb is a midwest state anyway....it's perfect.
I know USC.....but I have the feeling USC and Texas will be placed in opposite divisions. I know as a Big 10 fan you aren't accustomed to thinking that way, but you, I and everyone else knows which schools are fairly likely to have tops programs year after year and which are going to have good teams on occasion. You are going to try to stack things so there is some balance. I doubt very much USC and Texas are in the same division.....if all 4 of the Texas schools remain together....you will probably see them, AZ, AZ St and 2 others...say Colorado and maybe Stanford in the east or south....whatever they decide to call it....and that leaves Texas as the big player in that division.....like I said, Texas is going to do what's best for Texas...and that sounds like a better ticket to their championship game most years rather than joining the SEC where they would be placed in the west....the weaker division right now, but still has heavyweights in Ala and LSU to play every year.
Memphis adds the BB....and with a SEC tag after the name, they could build a football program to SEC standards.
If you are a good player, you are more likely to want to play for a SEC team, big 10 team etc v a Conf USA team or whatever league they play in.
That is why I keep saying Ga Tech....Tech already plays pretty darn good football that can match with most and they also have a pretty strong rep in roundball as Atlanta is a fertile breeding ground for good basketball players.
I pretty much agree with everything you said except for a few things. I don't know how good memphis will be down the road without coach Cal. Also Georgia Tech usually gets 1 superstar from the atlanta area and that's it. You're right about that are though. They've produced guys like Dwight Howard and Josh Smith.
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