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Delhomme fitting right in with Browns By Marla Ridenour Beacon Journal staff writer POSTED: 07:42 p.m. EDT, May 19, 2010 BEREA: A cloudless sky was Carolina blue, but everything else on Wednesday screamed fresh start for new Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme. Signed as a free agent after seven seasons with the Carolina Panthers, Delhomme suffered through his worst year in the NFL in 2009. He threw 18 interceptions and just eight touchdown passes in 11 games before being sidelined with a hand injury. That continued a slide that began in the 2008 playoffs, when he committed six turnovers in a loss to the Arizona Cardinals. So teams shied away from Delhomme after the Panthers released him March 5, figuring the 35-year-old's career was over after 12 seasons. But Browns president Mike Holmgren was looking for a leader at quarterback and made the leap of faith to sign Delhomme 10 days later, jettisoning Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn. If all goes as planned, Delhomme will be the ninth opening-day starter in 12 seasons when the Browns kick off Sept. 12 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Florida. ''To come here, if you'd asked me that before the start of the ['09] season, I would have said, 'Absolutely not.' I wanted to stay in Carolina and finish,'' Delhomme said on the third day of the Browns' organized team activities. ''But to be here, it's very refreshing. I've been here since March 15, our first day. ''It's just something new. Things might have gotten stale for me. It's like you get new life injected into you.'' Browns coach Eric Mangini doesn't like to make comparisons but said Delhomme's exuberance reminds him of Brett Favre, whom Mangini coached in 2008 with the New York Jets. ''He's got great energy,'' Mangini said of Delhomme. '''He reminds me a little bit of Favre that way. He enjoys practice. He enjoys being around the guys. He is able to be serious and still keep things light. ''He has a good rapport with the offensive guys and defensive guys and you just see it in their interaction in the weight room and all the different areas. It's positive, really positive.'' Playing in college at Louisiana-Lafayette, Delhomme said he idolized Southern Mississippi product Favre, now 40 and a member of the Minnesota Vikings. Mangini's comparison flattered Delhomme. ''What you saw today is what you're going to see tomorrow and the next day and forever,'' Delhomme said. ''I am who I am. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm not ashamed of that. ''I just like to have fun. If we're not out here having fun, what good is it? All that work you do inside, all the hours you spend inside lifting weights, or watching guys lift weights, it's a lot of fun to come out here.'' But Delhomme did not shy away from references to his past. ''I loved every minute I had in Carolina . . . well, I shouldn't say that, I loved six of the seven years I had in Carolina,'' he said. ''Last season just wasn't a lot of fun.'' Delhomme said when he returned in 2008 from Tommy John elbow surgery, he put too much on himself as he led the Panthers to a 12-4 record and the NFC South title. ''We had a bye week and I played so poorly in that playoff game,'' he said of the Cardinals' loss. ''Then that whole offseason, my whole focus was just to win back everyone. I felt I let everyone down. That was probably a little too much. I don't think there's any doubt, I have to play loose and free and I didn't do that.'' He's doing that again now, Browns left tackle Joe Thomas said. ''He's like a consummate team player,'' Thomas said. ''He came right in, fit right in, jumped right into the workouts. He was flying in here from Louisiana every week, getting away from his family just to be with the team and blending in and trying to learn the system. He's done great so far.'' Asked if he welcomed a veteran quarterback, Thomas said: ''No question. He has a great deal of experience. He's played in a number of different systems. Everywhere he has been people look up to him and respected him. He studies hard. ''It's funny because he is an older veteran, but you see him on the field, he slings the ball like he's still a rookie. He hasn't lost any of the velocity on his ball.'' Growing up in Breaux Bridge, La., two hours from New Orleans, Delhomme thinks that Browns fans are just as rabid as those who follow the Saints and that he wants to bring them a winner. ''It could have been very easy to walk away or go home or go hold a clipboard someplace. But I wanted a chance to compete,'' Delhomme said. ''I just want to help in whatever way getting this ship going in the right direction and winning. ''People throughout the state live and die by what happens on Sunday in New Orleans. That's what I get from here. Hard-working, blue-collar, gritty . . . that's football, that's America. You just want to win and help be a part of it.'' http://www.ohio.com/sports/94333749.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cleveland Browns enjoy an upbeat workout with new QB Jake Delhomme By Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer May 19, 2010, 5:56PM A good day throwing the football around during OTAs at Berea on Wednesday was just another example of a good off-season for new Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme. "I just want to help in whatever way getting this ship going in the right direction and winning,” he said.BEREA, Ohio -- Watching Jake Delhomme flinging passes Wednesday to receivers he's never thrown to before, Mike Holmgren smiled and made a prediction. "He's going to be fine," the Browns president said. "In fact, he's going to be better than a lot of people expect." National expectations for Delhomme, 35, are pretty low following the worst year of his 12 NFL seasons, the last seven of which were with Carolina. A torrent of turnovers shredded his confidence. At league meetings in March, NFL coaches and executives questioned his mobility and arm strength. But if first impressions are important, Delhomme has won over his new team in the two months since he signed a two-year deal as a free agent. Whether it was handing off to rookie Montario Hardesty or keeping things moving between plays, Jake Delhomme made his presence felt on Wednesday. "He reminds me a little bit of (Brett) Favre that way," says Browns coach Eric Mangini, "in terms of he enjoys practice, he enjoys being around the guys. He is able to be serious and still keep things light."On the field, he looked good in only his third practice with the Browns. He and his receivers, particularly new tight end Benjamin Watson, destroyed the defense in red-zone drills inside the 20. Only a select few of Delhomme's passes failed to be caught in the 90-minute, no-contact, off-season workout. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was practically pulling his hair out in agony watching Delhomme score TDs time after time. "He is an older veteran, but you see him on the field and he slings the ball like he's still a rookie. It doesn't look like he's lost any velocity on the ball," said left tackle Joe Thomas. "He's had some [elbow and thumb] injuries in recent years, like us all," said linebacker Scott Fujita. "But watching him come back and work the way he has this whole off-season, he looks sharp. I know he's in great shape, because I've been running with him almost every single day." The main attraction to the Browns was Delhomme's intangibles as an experienced former Super Bowl quarterback -- his presence in the locker room and his leadership on the field. These are quite evident to the team already. "Taking a leadership position, that's what a quarterback does. That's what a quarterback is. He's no stranger to being the leader of an offense," Watson said. "He's like a consummate team player," Thomas said. "He came right in and fit right in. Jumped right into the workouts. He was flying in from Louisiana every week, getting away from his family just to be with the team, blending in, trying to learn the system. "Everywhere he's been, people looked up to him. They respect him. He works hard, he studies hard." Coach Eric Mangini went so far as to make a bold comparison of Delhomme's engaging personality to that of Brett Favre. "He's got great energy," Mangini said. "I don't like making comparisons, but I will. He reminds me a little bit of Favre that way, in terms of he enjoys practice, he enjoys being around the guys. He is able to be serious and still keep things light. It is really important to him. "He has good rapport with offensive guys, defensive guys. You just see it in their interaction in the weight room, and all the different areas. It's really positive." The positive vibe exudes from Delhomme. He is reveling in the fresh start he's been given after a nightmare season in Carolina. "It's just something new for me," he said. "Things might have gotten stale for me. It's like you get new life injected into you. We're overgrown kids who play football. I'm lucky enough to be playing it for a while. I enjoy meeting new guys from different places. You learn a lot about them as a person and you learn to play with them and you kind of learn what makes them tick. Hopefully, you can use that at some point during the season." The game stopped being fun for Delhomme last year when a torrent of interceptions and fumbles caused the Carolina faithful to turn on him. In March, Carolina coach John Fox said for the first time that the booing affected Delhomme. His downfall began with a six-turnover game in the 2008 playoffs. Four interceptions and one fumble followed in the very first game of 2009. "I think I put so much on myself," he said. "I came back off an arm injury [in 2007] and we went 12-4 and I was so excited for the playoffs. We had a bye week and then I played so poorly in that playoff game. That whole off-season, my whole focus was just to win back, to win back everyone. And that was probably a little too much. I have to play loose and free. I didn't do that. "I felt I let everyone down. That's just my opinion. I put too much [on myself]. Over here, I just want to help in whatever way getting this ship going in the right direction and winning." The true test for Delhomme will be in the regular season, whether he is able to call on his moxie to overcome the interceptions that are inevitable at his position. Holmgren said veteran quarterbacks with Delhomme's experience should look great at this time of year. But that hasn't been the case here recently, and at least Delhomme is off to a good start. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/05/cleveland_browns_enjoy_an_upbe.html
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we haven't had a leader or a vet at QB in quite some time... I think it will definitely help this team.
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Countdown to the first "How can you compare Delhomme to Favre?" comment... 10... 9... 8... 
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I'll say it. I mean, Delhomme doesn't throw half the interceptions that Favre does!
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It all sounds great in May - and I'm glad to read Delhomme is taking command of his leadership role - but I'll reserve judgement until the season begins. I am of the opinion that Jake might surprise us (wishful thinking???).
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Whether or not he surprises you is directly related to your exectations... If you expect him to play like DA and he plays like Jake Delhomme is capable, then you will be pleasantly surprised.. if you expect him to play like Peyton Manning and he plays like Jake Delhomme is capable, then you will be upset... If you keep your expectations within the range of what Jake Delhomme has proven he can do, then you should be fine..
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Not expecting Manning-type play, but it's not unreasonable to expect more than what we've gotten the past few years with the exception of one good stretch DA had in 2007. A solid QB who can hit a simple pass woud be a nice change. 
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Then you should be fine.. I expect Delhomme to bring a level of maturity to the position we haven't had in forever. I expect Delhomme to be, for the most part, consistent but his history still says that he's going to do some head scratching things.. and he's going to do them in bunches.. He's going to have 3 int game or a 4 int game here or there, we might as well accept it. I think he's going to do well and be a vast improvement over what we've had... does that make me a Delhommer?
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we are use to watching players make head scratching moves in Cleveland...
Delhomme will have a better year than last year for sure.. The AFC is a different bag of skittles compared to the NFC.. but he has the experience to cope with that.
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Whether or not he surprises you is directly related to your exectations... If you expect him to play like DA and he plays like Jake Delhomme is capable, then you will be pleasantly surprised.. if you expect him to play like Peyton Manning and he plays like Jake Delhomme is capable, then you will be upset... If you keep your expectations within the range of what Jake Delhomme has proven he can do, then you should be fine..
I expect to see some competent QB play..thats al.
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I agree this is a bright and cheery May fluff piece on Jake. The only substance I gleened is..
.He is well liked
. His arm still has Zip to it.
. He is in great shape and has flown often to get into his new browns surroundings/players/playbook.
.He pressed real hard in 09 and felt he let the fans down.
Ok So far I like those things I read as i never thought DA took any responsibility for his poor play and seemed lackadaisical about his mistakes. I saw too little of Quinn to have negatives of him.
I expected NOTHING of Jake. I have called him the Mistakes. Yet, I would love to be very wrong. If this guy plays to his previous levels it will far exceed any QBing we have seen in this town since bernie Kosar's heyday and that is a LOOOOONG time ago.
If this guy can capture some of his past and get his linemates to hold their blocks an extra second because they BELIEVE he can deliver, well, on such slim margins of belief reside victory or defeat. A fluff piece yes, but there is a glimmer this guy has taken this opportunity to give 100% to be in top shape to memorize the playbook and familiarize himself with his teamates, and while it is cotton candy it is sweet to see leadership under center.
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Then you should be fine.. I expect Delhomme to bring a level of maturity to the position we haven't had in forever. I expect Delhomme to be, for the most part, consistent but his history still says that he's going to do some head scratching things.. and he's going to do them in bunches.. He's going to have 3 int game or a 4 int game here or there, we might as well accept it.
I think he's going to do well and be a vast improvement over what we've had... does that make me a Delhommer?
I'd be happy with some games that have a little excitement, where we move the ball and score occasionally.  If he can provide that, then he meets my expectations.
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Not quite what I said, but kinda along those lines I suppose.
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It's funny.. my nature is to be optimistic.. and I"m trying my best to temper that a little.. given that it's May... With that thought, there is some things I'm not used to hearing.. Our QBs arm has some zip to it... Our WRs are catching the ball 90 min and few dropped balls Ryan pulling his hair out because the O was scoring at will.... If I get nothing else out of those two articles, for it only being May, I'm at least happy with that. 
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i try to be optimistic most of the time as well, but there is that other article about half our starting defense either being injured or holding out as well....
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even if the entire starting D was present, I would still expect this result. The O should light up the D in drills that have no pads and are completely no-contact.
Browns is the Browns
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that is true, just pointing out the further disadvantage the D was at as well.
either way, it's nice to NOT hear about how the QBs are having troubles with their accuracy and inconsistent offensive performance on the day (as we were hearing last year)
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Oh yeah,, that's a biggie...
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I'd settle for not throwing the ball at the running back's feet in the flats...or through him from 8 yards away...
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some Jake research and Brown's QB research since '99 (all numbers rounded and taken from nfl.com) I know QB rating is flawed, but unfortunately, it's the easiest number to look up... "best QB" seasons for Browns since 1999 (minimum 100 attempts) 2007 DA QB Rating = 82 (2006-2009 QB Rating: 63,82,66,42) 2006 Charlie Frye 72 2005 Charlie Frye 73 2004 Jeff Garcia 77 2003 Tim Couch 78 2002 Kelly Holcomb 93 (in 4 games) 2002 Tim Couch 77 2000 Tim Couch 77 So, outside of a 4 game stint by Holcomb in '02, we haven't even had 1 above average QB season (#15 ranked QB in rating last year was Jason Campbell at an 86). Jake's QB ratings: http://www.nfl.com/players/jakedelhomme/careerstats?id=DEL3673672009 59 2008 85 2007 112 (3 games) 2006 83 2005 88 2004 87 2003 81 I'm starting to feel better about the Jake signing comparing what we are used to and Jake's accustomed norm. If he has a mid-80 QB rating for us which is just a normal year for him until he fell apart last year, he'll be hailed as the greatest Browns QB this century! i'm still weary because he hasn't played well in a year and a half and he is 35 years old, but it's at least a little promising.
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But he's a bum...how can he help this team? 
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because 'Bum' is an upgrade for that position.
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This probably belongs here as much as anywhere else. More fluff, but interesting tidbits that there is more WCO than advertised elsewhere (though we all suspected as much) http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/13170/on-the-radar-browns-offenseQuote:
How will the Cleveland Browns' offense look in 2010?
At this point, it's anyone's guess.
Cleveland's offensive scheme is "constantly evolving," according to Browns head coach Eric Mangini. The lack of success -- the Browns were ranked last in total offense last season -- combined with the addition of influential team president Mike Holmgren have resulted in an exchange of ideas of how to run things more efficiently.
Holmgren is a firm believer in the West Coast offense, which has led him to three Super Bowls as head coach of two franchises. But Mangini and current Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll are coaching the team and believe in the New England Patriots' system, where they worked up the ranks and also won Super Bowls.
By the end of training camp, Cleveland probably will have a blend of the Patriots' system mixed with some West Coast principles.
"There's been an influx of ideas between the new people of the organization," Mangini explained. "There's been an influx of ideas with offseason studies and things that we liked from other teams that they did ... Now it's a function of trying to figure out where does it fit."
One key to making it all work will be veteran quarterback Jake Delhomme, who signed as a free agent from the Carolina Panthers.
Delhomme is learning a new system in Cleveland this season. But it's not completely foreign because he knows the West Coast portion of the scheme from the time he spent with the New Orleans Saints under former assistant Mike McCarthy, who is now the head coach of the Green Bay Packers.
"I think I have a very good background in it," Delhomme said. "Some of the plays, Seneca [Wallace] and I will speak some of the West Coast language, because it's very similar to the system he ran in Seattle and what I ran with Mike."
Cleveland's offense looked dominant during Wednesday's organized team activities that were open to the media. Both Delhomme and Wallace made several nice throws for big gains against Cleveland's defense.
It's early, but perhaps that's a small sign that Cleveland's offense has the potential to improve in 2010. Considering last year's ranking, the unit has nowhere to go but up.
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... beat me to it.
Another way of putting it would be that our QB play would have to improve to merely suck this season. Either way, there truly is nowhere to go but up for this offense.
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I agree this is a bright and cheery May fluff piece on Jake. The only substance I gleened is..
.He is well liked
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Ok So far I like those things I read as i never thought DA took any responsibility for his poor play and seemed lackadaisical about his mistakes. I saw too little of Quinn to have negatives of him.
I expected NOTHING of Jake. I have called him the Mistakes. Yet, I would love to be very wrong. If this guy plays to his previous levels it will far exceed any QBing we have seen in this town since bernie Kosar's heyday and that is a LOOOOONG time ago.
If this guy can capture some of his past and get his linemates to hold their blocks an extra second because they BELIEVE he can deliver, well, on such slim margins of belief reside victory or defeat. A fluff piece yes, but there is a glimmer this guy has taken this opportunity to give 100% to be in top shape to memorize the playbook and familiarize himself with his teamates, and while it is cotton candy it is sweet to see leadership under center.
I think the line will hold blocks a bit longer.
There is something about a Cajun personality that DA and Brady lacked.
I don't like to stereotype, I am sure there are wimpy Cajuns, but Cajuns are a tough breed. Wiry little suckers who give it all....swamp heritage. When you hunt frogs, to muskrats, to gators to eat, you build a little backbone and a little less wishbone.
Maybe he didn't hunt like that, but someone in his heritage did, so it passes through to a degree.
I've always liked the guy ....maybe because I have some Cajun in the blood line, but more so, he is a tough kid, and we have needed that at QB for some time.
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My expectations are something akin to what DA did in '07. I don't believe Delhomme can be what he was during his peak years, but I'd be absolutely shocked if he was as bad as he was last year. I think Holmgren and Co. are hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. If they can, he'll be a steal. If Jake's a bum, we'll be looking at QB's again............
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and when you take a look at Delhomme's mean QB rating over the past several years, it lines up quite nicely with DA in '07.
let's hope that he isn't the NFL's answer to Chuck Noblauch.
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Then conversely, you MUST have seen too little of Quinn to have positives as well.
So, I pose this question to you: How can you so vehemently say Quinn is going to be good when you've stated you don't have enough information to judge him fairly?
Just curious..........
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My expectations are something akin to what DA did in '07. I don't believe Delhomme can be what he was during his peak years, but I'd be absolutely shocked if he was as bad as he was last year. I think Holmgren and Co. are hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. If they can, he'll be a steal. If Jake's a bum, we'll be looking at QB's again............
I'm not sure why anyone has positive expectations for Jake Delhomme. I know that he's had a nice career and I think I liked him more than most. But he had a good OL, two great runningbacks, Steve Smith and a pretty good defense last year that put the offense in good situations.
If you take all the other variables....almost all of them are significantly worse. Include in that a new offense, a TE in a new offense, two second year players starting at WR and quite possibly a rookie starting RB. The line should be good and we should have a Top 10 running game but both were the case in Carolina.
I'd like to know why anyone would think (if they think this) that the Browns won't be one of the worst 3 passing teams in the NFL this year.
Hell I'd like someone to make the case that we won't be the absolute worst.
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Hell I'd like someone to make the case that we won't be the absolute worst.
Heres my case.
1. Oakland
2. Tampa Bay.
3. St Louis
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The problem is NO ONE has a clue. Might as well be a different team we will be watching this year. Too many variables to say, Or as Jodie Foster said in the movie Contact concerning her believe in God "Theirs not enough data to support a conclusion either way"
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I actually think Oakland's passing offense will be fine this year. Probably in the 20-25 range. I like, don't love their QB. Zach Miller is a pretty darn good pass catching TE. Louis Murphy I like, the others not really. Has the makings of a not cover your eyes awful offense.
Tampa Bay....being a K State fan, I got to see plenty of Josh Freeman. He's got great tools but is quite erratic. Big kid, huge arm, and a good head on his shoulders. With the right tutoring he could be a very solid NFL QB. He has a great pass catching TE. His WRs are a big ? and his OL is not great. Definitely bottom third but the QB can catch fire from time to time and makes all the throws.
St. Louis. Yikes they're bad. Ok maybe they're worse.
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I'm not sure why anyone has positive expectations for Jake Delhomme. I know that he's had a nice career and I think I liked him more than most. But he had a good OL, two great runningbacks, Steve Smith and a pretty good defense last year that put the offense in good situations.
Metrics and/or the law of averages combined with the specific nature of Delhomme himself.
More often than not when a QB goes from solid starter to finished, there's a physical component that has been lost. The best example I can use is Dan Marino. He was great late into his career, right up until his shoulder went. Then he became a nobody. Same for Pennington.
Delhomme never lost his velocity, just his mental side of the game. He's an emotional guy who rides the waves of that emotion to the poles of good and bad. He is the epitome of the kind of guy who needs a change of scenery from time-to-time.
Now, keep in mind this isn't a situation where I'm making a case that he's going to be the guy he was during his salad-days. However, he hasn't lost anything physically which would be the cause of his 59 rating. I believe with a new scene and a new sense of purpose, he'll be closer to what he was several years ago than the guy we all saw last year.
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My only expectations are for him to be an average starting NFL QB.
However, to answer your post: None of the litany of things you posted have much of anything to do with the equation: Delhomme's problem last year was Delhomme.
Had he not been his own worst problem, that team would have likely been a force to reckon with.
Why expect a turn-around from how he was last year? Simple... everything about him and his history points to last year being an anomaly and not the start of a trend. To back that up, we have reports of the offense actually looking above middle school level, which is a VAST improvement for this team.
To address our roster... well, ya can't, really. It's just too much of a question mark to analyze it well, but there are enough solid vets in positions that need them that we're going to be Ok.
I think that TE will be fine, as will RB, QB and OLine.... the only true puzzler is the WR position. Stuckey, Cribbs, MoMass, Robo.... how will they come out and how will they fit together and will there be another addition?? Regardless of the answer to those questions, however, I think that they will be good enough that we won't be (CAN'T be) as utterly terrible as we were last year. Every other position group has been shored up in some fashion, they are the lone major weak spot and unanswered question.... that alone should be enough to help prop them up a bit and take some pressure off of them.
Short version:
The QB should be fine.
The RB's & Line should be fine.
So, we should have a running game, and a QB that can get the ball to the receivers..... what's that leave you?
Whether or not the WR's can do their thing.... and I'm pretty certain in how I feel on at least 2 of the 4.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Delhomme also had a really up and down year last year that doesn't imply a physical problem.
His 1st, 6th, and 11th games accounted for 0 TDs and 10 INTs. Those games were against Philly, the Jets, and the Bills. The Eagles and Jets both have pretty damn good defenses ... so even though that doesn't excuse horrible play .... it does offer a reason for some of his struggles.
The bottom line is that there really wasn't a better option with experience available. The team had obviously decided that neither Anderson nor Quinn was the answer ... so they needed another option, even as a stop gap. If you need a stop gap, a guy with past success, a few recent struggles, but no physical issues might be better than a guy who has had no playing time at all.
Hopefully Delhomme can be a guy to set the example for McCoy ... or whoever we wind up with as the long term guy ..... and hopefully he wins some games along the way. Like I've said in the past .. and other have said on this thread ... he has to be better than what we had last year.
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I'm not sure why anyone has positive expectations for Jake Delhomme. I know that he's had a nice career and I think I liked him more than most. But he had a good OL, two great runningbacks, Steve Smith and a pretty good defense last year that put the offense in good situations.
If you take all the other variables....almost all of them are significantly worse. Include in that a new offense, a TE in a new offense, two second year players starting at WR and quite possibly a rookie starting RB. The line should be good and we should have a Top 10 running game but both were the case in Carolina.
Then it's quite simple.. if this is your stance then one must decide, was last year the beginning of a trend signalling the end of Jakes decent career or was it an anomaly in an otherwise decent career?
What can I say, I'm an optimist. If I was sitting here today, on this website, expecting Jake to suck and the Browns to suck.. well I'm not sure why I'd be sitting here today then..
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But he's a bum...how can he help this team?
At this juncture, that's as good of a scenario as any. The jury is still out and nothing we've seen or heard so far really indicates anything one way or the other on that.
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