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Bruce said something today that got me thinking. I personally being from southeast ohio always considered northeastern ohio to be a cluster of big cities but the way Bruce said it he basically he made it seem like they all revolve around cleveland (Akron, Canton, Y-town) which I dont think is comepletely true. Cities Akron and Youngstown have rich industrial histories where growth was from within rather than because of their vicinity of Cleveland. Each city has their own suburbs. Though I considered the area to be together I always viewed Akron, Canton, and Yougnstown as their own identities not related to Cleveland outside of close distance. I was curious how people up north view it?

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Back in da day the joke was "Akron the capital of WV"

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I view it the same way as you. Each being it's own entity and having it's own identity. However, being able to identify with eachother as one.

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When I was younger, I always HATED it when people refered to Akron as being in Cleveland or when music artists refered to Blossom Music Center as being Cleveland. One time, I was read an article that refered to Columbus as a suburb of Cleveland - which I thought was HILARIOUS!

Anyway, these days, when people ask me where I live, I reply that I live just outside of Cleveland. Most people can visualize Cleveland on a map. The same can't be said for Akron and I found that I was always just telling people that I was from Akron, just south of Cleveland. I still view Akron, Canton and Y-town as separate entities. But for simplicity's sake, I live just outside of Cleveland.


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I refer to this entire area as NE Ohio....


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Youngstown and Warren are often clouded into the "Mahoning Valley," but outside of that, each is it's own entity. And there are at least 20-25 smaller towns in the area.

For all the Steeler fans that are there, it could more easily be considered a big suburb of Pittsburgh, before it would Cleveland,....

Delaware is big enough that we don't "technically" consider it a Columbus suburb, but it pretty much has been sucked in as "the northern tier."

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They are all in NE Ohio ..... but that's about it.

The greater Cleveland area is just that. While Cleveland may be the most recognizable name among NE Ohio cities .... it is not hub around which all others revolve.


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It's been said that "as Cleveland goes, so goes the region" so in that sense, we are all tied to the fortunes of Cleveland to a degree.. Economically speaking anyway.

Of course, I think that phrase was coined 50 or more years ago so I'm not convinced that it is still as accurate/relevant as it once was.


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Bruce said something today that got me thinking. I personally being from southeast ohio always considered northeastern ohio to be a cluster of big cities but the way Bruce said it he basically he made it seem like they all revolve around cleveland (Akron, Canton, Y-town) which I dont think is comepletely true. Cities Akron and Youngstown have rich industrial histories where growth was from within rather than because of their vicinity of Cleveland. Each city has their own suburbs. Though I considered the area to be together I always viewed Akron, Canton, and Yougnstown as their own identities not related to Cleveland outside of close distance. I was curious how people up north view it?





Both. In general, I've always had a very Cleveland-centric view of the area as a whole like Drennan... but when talking about a specific city, it is its own area.

I think its kind of like the New York mentality... we're the biggest, so the rest revolves around us.


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I think Bruce Drennan is crazy. He lives too much in the past. That may have been the case years ago but not anymore. I've commuted to Akron for work almost 10 years now and I don't know anyone down here that says they identify with Cleveland.

Hell people get on Lebron (an Akron native) for being a Cowboy, Yankee, Bulls fan growing up. Well I can tell you that in our shop there are 40+ workers and us Cleveland sports fans are the minority. All of these people down here are band-wagoners. They all despise Cleveland teams and when the Cavs lost I had many co-workers gloat and tell me "Go Celtics".

I have seen more animosity toward Cleveland than people identifying with Cleveland.


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I'd say it's both as well.

Akron is definitely its own city and has a long, rich history. But I grew up in Silver Lake and I'd say more than half of my friends parents, and much of my family, commuted to Cleveland for their white collar jobs.

I'd say a significant part of Stow, Cuyahoga Falls and Hudson residents do too.


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Grew up in the Falls, but lived in Silver Lake in high school. You're right, in that several folks in this area do commute to Cleveland from here. My husband is a prime example: Falls to Bedford everyday. And I used to be: Akron to Independence.


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Grew up in the Falls, but lived in Silver Lake in high school. You're right, in that several folks in this area do commute to Cleveland from here. My husband is a prime example: Falls to Bedford everyday. And I used to be: Akron to Independence.




WOW Babe and Heldawg, Silver Lake huh? Well la dee da!!(joking) I grew up close to their in georgraphy but definitely a whole different world. I grew up in Silver Meadows,or as the rest of Kent and Stow call it, Silver Ghettos. Of course I had no idea what a ghetto was until I moved to the West 25th/Clark area of Cleveland as a young teen,


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Silver Lake isn't all that impressive, at least not where I lived. Our property didn't have lake privledges, so I lived in the ghetto of Silver Lake. LOL!


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I lived in four different houses in SL. One had privledges and we had a sunfish that we used to sail as kids. Taking a girlfriend out to the island when you were in 8th grade was about the coolest thing you could possibly do.


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I well remember, I was one of those gf (not one of yours, that I know of... ) sailed out to the island on a Sunfish!

We had a Sunfish too (we didn't have lake privledges, but my Mom insisted on "renting" them). I was pretty good at it. Group of friends and I used to sneak alcohol out to the island in our Sunfish. Ahhhhhh....memories!


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