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Republicans Thwart Bill With Unemployment Aid, Buyout Tax Boost
By Brian Faler - Jun 25, 2010
Senate Republicans yesterday killed a bill to extend unemployment benefits, provide aid to state governments and raise taxes on buyout fund managers, saying the measure would add too much to the federal deficit.
Lawmakers voted 57-41 in favor of the measure, with 60 votes needed to advance it. Democrats repeatedly cut the bill in an effort to win backing from those who objected to its cost. The latest version would have added $33 billion to the budget shortfall, a fraction of previous proposals; Republicans said the cost-cutting didn’t go far enough.
No Republican senators backed the measure; Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska was the only Democrat to vote against it.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that although lawmakers will move on other matters, the chamber may revisit the legislation -- central to the Democrats’ job agenda in an election year -- if Republican support emerges. Democrats control the Senate with 59 votes.
“We can’t pass it unless we get some Republicans” so “it’s up to them,” Reid, a Nevada Democrat, told reporters. “We have done everything that we could do to try to get the Republican votes.”
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said “Democrats simply refuse to pass a bill that doesn’t add to the debt. That’s the principle that we’re really fighting for in this debate.”
Lapsing Benefits
The impasse means unemployment benefits will be cut off to more than 1 million people by the end of this week, according to the U.S. Labor Department.
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement that Senate Republicans “obstructed a common-sense package that would save jobs, extend tax cuts for businesses and provide relief for American families who have suffered through the worst economic downfall since the Great Depression, even after Democrats offered multiple compromises” to gain backing for the bill.
The House yesterday approved on a 417-1 vote a separate Senate-passed measure postponing a 21 percent cut in Medicare payments to doctors until December. That provision was also part of the larger Senate bill.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat, said he didn’t know if lawmakers would try to pass an unemployment benefit extension as a separate measure. The bill derailed yesterday would have continued some extended jobless benefits through November.
‘Take Stock’
“We’ll have to take stock and see,” Baucus said. “I hope frankly that enough people in the country realize what’s going on here and call members of the Senate on the Republican side and say, ‘Hey, we need some help here.’”
The legislation would have provided $16 billion in aid to states and raised taxes on the share of profits paid to executives of buyout firms. Robert Stewart, a spokesman for the Washington-based Private Equity Council, declined to comment on the vote.
The bill would have extended municipal bond subsidies, increased taxes on oil companies and extended a deadline to close home purchases under the government’s first-time homebuyer tax credit plan.
The measure also would have revived some business tax breaks that expired Dec. 31. They include a widely used research credit, and a tax break on income from some overseas financial services used by companies such as General Electric Co. Some tax benefits for individuals also have lapsed, including deductions for sales tax payments, teacher-paid classroom supplies and subsidies for college tuition.
Multinational Firms
The legislation’s failure is a win for U.S.-based multinational companies such as International Business Machines Corp., which lobbied against proposals to increase taxes on their international operations.
President Barack Obama earlier this month had urged lawmakers to approve $50 billion in aid to states to help prevent layoffs. Economist Mark Zandi has projected that without additional aid states will have to fire 300,000 employees.
Lawmakers worked on the bill for more than a month. An initial draft had been projected to add more than $130 billion to the deficit.
Senator Susan Collins, a Maine Republican whose support Democrats had sought, said after yesterday’s vote that the bill “is too expensive and I simply could not support it.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Brian Faler in Washington at bfaler@bloomberg.net.
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Again, Republicans send a message to average American workers, hurt by the worst recession in American history...GO TO HELL!
The GOP act of pretending that they are "suddenly" worried about the deficit, is laughable, considering the same GOP senators did all they could to double the deficit when the GOP controlled the House, Senate and White House.
The GOP is simply playing political games with those American workers who have been hurt the worst by the great American recession created by the Bush administration with their help.
Americans are getting the picture...if the economy recovers and American workers are rehired...it's bad for the GOP.
The GOP believes the more they can make American workers suffer, that Obama and the Dems will be blamed.
Just one example of GOP priorities...increasing medicare payments to doctors...the GOP had no problem find Billions of taxpayer dollars to help doctors out.
If the GOP is worried about paying for this bill...why don't they suggest stopping the Bush tax cuts to millionaires......that is all it would take, IF "AMERICAN WORKERS" WERE THE GOPS PRIORITY.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we talking about a group of unemployed people who have exhausted 99 weeks of unemployment benefits? At what point does the benefit become a disincentive to finding employment? 26 weeks is the normal claim limit, with most states having emergency extensions of an additional 13 weeks. 99 weeks is almost 2 years. If nearly two years go by and an individual is unable to find work in a given field, I would say its probably time to broaden your search beyond that particular field. Its also entirely possible you will need to accept "underemployment", something you may have considered to be beneath your standards previously, in order to make ends meet.
Mac, you mentioned the Bush tax cuts for millionaires, and the rescinding of those cuts in order to pay the unemployed extended benefits. Those tax cuts sunset at the end of this year, along with the cuts for non-millionaires. Watch and see if anything gets better after that happens. Watch and see if we don't see an increase in the unemployment rolls, due to a reduction of investment by those wretched "millionaires", and a reduction of re-investing into the small businesses that those wretched "millionaires" own. Beware the law of unintended consequences.
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Those without work have my sympathy, but they will have to find a way to live that doesn't include handouts from the government. That might mean flipping burgers, or mopping floors at night, and maybe it will mean you have to cancel your cable TV and your internet service for a while. But you have to find a way to survive until things get better.
People must learn that they cannot count on those stooges in Washington any longer, because they (our so-called "leaders") never fail ... to fail.
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j/c There is a lot more to that bill than just the extension of unemployment benefits...a lot more. You know...like healthcare "reform" included a government takeover of the student loan process.  If any politician...R or D...really gave a damn about the unemployed, they would put forth a separate bill that ONLY addressed unemployment benefits. Everyone would vote for that bill at this time. Each side tries to dump their turd (agenda) in the punch bowl (bills) and ask everyone to drink up. The economy is failing and those in charge continue to push their own agenda and hide that agenda behind things like the extension of unemployment benefits rather than addressing the problems. By playing games with an issue, those in charge make "the other guy" the bad guy for not going along with the agenda. So...we can then get things like the LW loons babbling about how the Rs hate the poor and love the rich...it's ridiculous really. Deception and distraction while those in need continue to suffer and worry. The real "thwart" with this bill occurred when it was written...not when it was voted upon. Yet many clueless in this country - like those who cannot answer a simple yes or no question - simply cannot see the forest for the trees.
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The GOP believes the more they can make American workers suffer, that Obama and the Dems will be blamed.
Having grown up in politics I learned to hate it, so I stay away from the vast majority of political threads, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read the above sentence.
Many politicians are crooked sumbitches but I've never met the one who would willingly wreck peoples lives for the sole purpose of trying to make people hate a Democrat.
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Again, Republicans send a message to average American workers, hurt by the worst recession in American history...GO TO HELL!
The GOP act of pretending that they are "suddenly" worried about the deficit, is laughable, considering the same GOP senators did all they could to double the deficit when the GOP controlled the House, Senate and White House.
The GOP is simply playing political games with those American workers who have been hurt the worst by the great American recession created by the Bush administration with their help.
Americans are getting the picture...if the economy recovers and American workers are rehired...it's bad for the GOP.
The GOP believes the more they can make American workers suffer, that Obama and the Dems will be blamed.
Just one example of GOP priorities...increasing medicare payments to doctors...the GOP had no problem find Billions of taxpayer dollars to help doctors out.
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Enlighten me Charlie or mac, just what have the democrats done to help the american worker? There was the stimulus bill that was a complete failure. What have democrats done to create jobs and put these people back to work?
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But Obama has created and/or saved many jobs, how could people still be out of work? 
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what have the democrats done to help the american worker?
What have the reps. done?....Oh thats right, the same thing they alway's do
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Again, Republicans send a message to average American workers, hurt by the worst recession in American history...GO TO HELL!
The GOP act of pretending that they are "suddenly" worried about the deficit, is laughable, considering the same GOP senators did all they could to double the deficit when the GOP controlled the House, Senate and White House.
The GOP is simply playing political games with those American workers who have been hurt the worst by the great American recession created by the Bush administration with their help.
Americans are getting the picture...if the economy recovers and American workers are rehired...it's bad for the GOP.
The GOP believes the more they can make American workers suffer, that Obama and the Dems will be blamed.
Just one example of GOP priorities...increasing medicare payments to doctors...the GOP had no problem find Billions of taxpayer dollars to help doctors out.
If the GOP is worried about paying for this bill...why don't they suggest stopping the Bush tax cuts to millionaires......that is all it would take, IF "AMERICAN WORKERS" WERE THE GOPS PRIORITY.
If these unemployed workers have exhausted their 99 weeks (which was extended in the first place) They shouldnt be relying on the Gov't to extend it further just because they cannot find a job that pays them more than what unemployment is paying them.. They should have to suck it up and start looking for other jobs.. McD's might not be as glamorous as a home loan processor, but it makes money, rather than sitting around doing nothing and getting checks for it..
Unemployment was not created to make a living.. it was made to be a temporary safety net while the unemployed find a new job..
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I know quite a few unemployed people collecting checks 2 years later. One thing I notice is they have parties every weekend and have plenty for beer, cigarettes, snacks, cable TV & internet.
I an not unemployed but I cut back to a very basic cable package (I maintained a better internet package because I rely on my connection for accessing the servers at night and on the weekends). We don't buy soft drinks anymore, we drink a lot of water instead, and I have never smoked so that's a non-issue.
Many of these people are my own family and I can tell you most have not changed a single thing, short of getting up and going to work. A couple are facing foreclosure but they don't seem to care, they just will stay until they are kicked out. They manged to buy a new pool heater last month, but can't pay the mortgage?
I don't know if this is the norm, and I doubt it is, but I'm confident it is more common than many think.
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I'm quite Ok with this.
You can't stay on unemployment forever, and this bill was LOADED with pork.
It had something stuffed into it for all of their pets:
Handouts to GE - this administration's corporate master
At the same time, it would have taxed the evil Big Oil - the current whipping boy of this administration
it would have increased a tax a tax on the evil Wall Streeters - another favorite whipping boy
I mean, it's a load of BS.
If the items are so important, put them in a bill by themselves and put it up for a vote. If they are important enough, they will pass. If they are not, they won't.
If they are loaded with Pork, they should ALWAYS be shot down in flames ... contents be damned.
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Everything has limits, and 99 weeks is enough.
To add 33 billion to the deficit to pay for the extension was not a reasonable solution. If the bill would have had taxes to offsetthe expenditure, there may have been some republican support.
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Again, Republicans send a message to average American workers, hurt by the worst recession in American history...GO TO HELL!
The GOP act of pretending that they are "suddenly" worried about the deficit, is laughable, considering the same GOP senators did all they could to double the deficit when the GOP controlled the House, Senate and White House.
The GOP is simply playing political games with those American workers who have been hurt the worst by the great American recession created by the Bush administration with their help.
Americans are getting the picture...if the economy recovers and American workers are rehired...it's bad for the GOP.
The GOP believes the more they can make American workers suffer, that Obama and the Dems will be blamed.
Just one example of GOP priorities...increasing medicare payments to doctors...the GOP had no problem find Billions of taxpayer dollars to help doctors out.
If the GOP is worried about paying for this bill...why don't they suggest stopping the Bush tax cuts to millionaires......that is all it would take, IF "AMERICAN WORKERS" WERE THE GOPS PRIORITY.
If these unemployed workers have exhausted their 99 weeks (which was extended in the first place) They shouldnt be relying on the Gov't to extend it further just because they cannot find a job that pays them more than what unemployment is paying them.. They should have to suck it up and start looking for other jobs.. McD's might not be as glamorous as a home loan processor, but it makes money, rather than sitting around doing nothing and getting checks for it..
Unemployment was not created to make a living.. it was made to be a temporary safety net while the unemployed find a new job..
Exactly. I got layed off. I didn't take a dime of unemployment. I went and found temporary work so that I could make a living, and hauled my ass all the way out to Wyoming to do it. Been here four months and will be heading to Missouri next. Do I like being far away from home? Nope. Do I like living out of a hotel? Nope. Do I like being somewhere where I don't know a soul and have to hang out by myself? Nope.
I do it so I can earn a living until things turn around. You do what you have to do without living off of other people.
Now granted, I make good money doing this, it's not like I'm doing hard labor for little or mediocre money, but it's certainly not an ideal situation for me. There are jobs out there to find, you just can't expect to get handed a job or always be in your comfort zone.
Stop handing people money and they will find work.
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I didn't take a dime of unemployment.
You do know that YOU payed into to that right?...Why not use it to help you on your feet?....Im not saying to use it as a means of living, but to use YOUR money to help you in down time's.
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I pay into a lot of welfare type programs....it doesn't mean I need to collect on all of them. Can you imagine if everyone had that attitude? Those programs would dry up in an instant, just like unemployment is in many states.
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Good point my friend...was just asking...how is every thing ?
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Unemployment is paid by your employer. It is not withheld from your check. Now, these other general fund taxes and deficit spending that has been used by the federal govn't to extend benefits is another story.
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It sure is beautiful in Wyoming, but there isn't crap to do where I am...out in the middle of nowhere.  I should have come visit you in Vegas.  Next week is my last week here.
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Don't need to check that. Show me the line item in your check withholding that states unemployment taxes. You see: Federal State Local (if you have a local income tax) FICA (Social Security & Medicare) Never seen unemployment. Oh, and I get to see the Ohio Bureau of Employment Services Quarterly Wage and Tax Statement that must be filed by every employer that the state uses to determine the level of taxes must be paid for unemployment. It is a requirement of the paperwork I must submit everytime I write a group health insurance policy for a company. Never is there a contribution to the tax from the employee. "The Federal Unemployment Tax Act (FUTA), with state unemployment systems, provides for payments of unemployment compensation to workers who have lost their jobs. Most employers pay both a Federal and a state unemployment tax. A list of state unemployment tax agencies, including addresses and phone numbers, is available in Publication 926, Household Employer's Tax Guide. Only the employer pays FUTA tax; it is not deducted from the employee's wages. For more information, refer to the Instructions for Form 940 (PDF). " http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=104985,00.html
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you have to be a real lazy ... to sit around the house for 2 years and do nothing. There's work out there, you just have to find it. I was on unemployment for 6 months, hated sitting at home every day, and eventually took a lowering paying job to get out of the house. I found something better recently, and am back on my feet. I applied to at least 5-10 companies a day. You have to be relentless until you find work.
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Im going by my mother, who has worked for them for over 30 years. No you dont see it on your check stub! it is in with your tax with held , just not recorded.
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What part of "the worst recession in American history" do Republicans not understand?
This is not a one year decline in the economy and everything bounces back...this is going to take years to recover from...maybe 2 to 3 years depending on how the recession is handled.
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Vice President Joe Biden gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession."
Appearing at a fundraiser with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) in Milwaukee, the vice president remarked that by the time he and President Obama took office in 2008, the gross domestic product had shrunk and hundreds of thousands of jobs had been lost.
"We inherited a godawful mess," he said, adding there was "no way to regenerate $3 trillion that was lost. Not misplaced, lost."
Claims for jobless benefits fell by the largest number in two months last week, but were still high enough to signal weak job growth. Meanwhile, the Senate on Thursday failed to pass an extension of unemployment benefits.
Biden said today the economy is improving and noted that in the past four quarters, there has been 4 percent growth in the economy. Over the last five months, more than 500,000 private sector jobs were created.
"We know that's not enough," the vice president said.
Last week the White House put out a Recovery and Reinvestment Act update claiming that between 2.2 million and 2.8 million jobs were either saved or created because of the stimulus as of March 2010. In signing the Recovery Act into law on Feb 17, 2009, Mr. Obama said the measure "will create or save 3-and-a-half million jobs over the next two years."
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Enlighten me Charlie or mac, just what have the democrats done to help the american worker? There was the stimulus bill that was a complete failure. What have democrats done to create jobs and put these people back to work?
You must've missed my post mac. Here it is again. I eagerly await to here what democrats have done to create jobs.
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The stimulus plan had about 350 billion on infrastructure programs.
That created jobs.
Frankly I wish it had stronger buy american provisions.
I would be very happy with 2 or 3 more of infrastucture programs like that.
And I think it is a better use of our money.
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Vice President Joe Biden gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession."
Appearing at a fundraiser with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) in Milwaukee, the vice president remarked that by the time he and President Obama took office in 2008, the gross domestic product had shrunk and hundreds of thousands of jobs had been lost.
So, "hundreds of thousands of jobs" were lost by the time they took office, and now 8 million jobs need to be restored?
Wow. Over 7 million jobs lost on obama's watch. That stimulus plan is working wonders.
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Re: Republicans Thwart Bill With Unemployment Aid, "AGAIN" [Re: mac]
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So, "hundreds of thousands of jobs" were lost by the time they took office, and now 8 million jobs need to be restored?
Wow. Over 7 million jobs lost on obama's watch. That stimulus plan is working wonders. ......
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I am looking at the whole picture. I (and most conservatives) agree Bush at times spent like a drunken democrat. Obama started his term with a trillion dollars to stimulate the economy, courtesy of us taxpayers. Just when do you think it would be appropriate to start holding him accountable for spending and mismanaging us into oblivion?
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If I'm in a car heading towards a cliff at 40 MPH, and I floor the gas rather than hitting the brakes, can I blame the former driver of the car when I crash 100 feet below? Bush has been gone for over a year and a half. When does the current guy become responsible for anything? (Rather than just trying to grab credit whenever there is the slightest good news)
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what have the democrats done to help the american worker?
What have the reps. done?....Oh thats right, the same thing they alway's do
Shotty, I'm not picking on you by any means, whatsoever. You're an awesome poster whose posts I love reading.
The quoted conversation above, however, is what I believe the root cause to most of our country's problems.
I really don't think we will be able to fully recover from our current troubles until we stop pointing fingers, realize the people in Washington pretty much suck equally across the board, and try to put our heads together to come to a solution.
I must say, I really respect people like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, even though I don't necessarily agree with either of their ideas. How could I like people on two total opposite ends of the spectrum? Because I actually feel like both of those men more than most actually stand up for what they believe, are open to dialogue, and honestly try to figure out solutions...
...Which is a hell of a lot more than just about every other dolt running the legislative and executive branch of our government.
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What part of "the worst recession in American history" do Republicans not understand?
This is not a one year decline in the economy and everything bounces back...this is going to take years to recover from...maybe 2 to 3 years depending on how the recession is handled.
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Biden: We Can't Recover All the Jobs Lost
June 25, 2010 5:52 PM
Vice President Joe Biden gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession."
Appearing at a fundraiser with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) in Milwaukee, the vice president remarked that by the time he and President Obama took office in 2008, the gross domestic product had shrunk and hundreds of thousands of jobs had been lost.
"We inherited a godawful mess," he said, adding there was "no way to regenerate $3 trillion that was lost. Not misplaced, lost."
Claims for jobless benefits fell by the largest number in two months last week, but were still high enough to signal weak job growth. Meanwhile, the Senate on Thursday failed to pass an extension of unemployment benefits.
Biden said today the economy is improving and noted that in the past four quarters, there has been 4 percent growth in the economy. Over the last five months, more than 500,000 private sector jobs were created.
"We know that's not enough," the vice president said.
Last week the White House put out a Recovery and Reinvestment Act update claiming that between 2.2 million and 2.8 million jobs were either saved or created because of the stimulus as of March 2010. In signing the Recovery Act into law on Feb 17, 2009, Mr. Obama said the measure "will create or save 3-and-a-half million jobs over the next two years."
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and what does this article have to do with the Republicans not extending unemployment benefits?
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Im going by my mother, who has worked for them for over 30 years. No you dont see it on your check stub! it is in with your tax with held , just not recorded.
In the state of Ohio...the employee does not pay a penny towards Ohio unemployment taxes...not one penny.
Federal unemployment taxes are paid ONLY by the employer...everywhere.
Too many people think unemployment is another entitlement program that they "deserve" because they "paid into it". When they did NOT "pay into it". The "evil" employer pays for it.
Typically, those same people "miss the boat" on a load of other issues.
Shame on those who wrote the bill for loading it with pork and agenda at the expense of those who need the assistance.
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There is an important concept here that must be more clearly understood.
The employer is the one who writes checks directly to an employee, as payment for his or her labor or production. Now let's say you are making $100 a week or $400 a month. (simple numbers) Your electric bill is $50 a month. Your employer says to you, "Sir, (or Madam), your production for me is such that I wish to raise your payment to 112.50 a week, or $450 a month."
If you decide, and you did, to have your employer pay your $50 electric bill every month, the two extremely critical concepts to get a handle on are as follows : 1. YOUR ELECTRICITY IS NOT FREE
2. IT IS PAID WITH YOUR repeat YOUR MONEY.
There are many people who sadly do not fully understand this reality.
Health Insurance? YOUR MONEY. Pension Plan? YOUR MONEY. You have simply made a choice to let someone else decide what should be done with that part of your earned income.
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Im going by my mother, who has worked for them for over 30 years. No you dont see it on your check stub! it is in with your tax with held , just not recorded.
In the state of Ohio...the employee does not pay a penny towards Ohio unemployment taxes...not one penny.
Federal unemployment taxes are paid ONLY by the employer...everywhere.
Too many people think unemployment is another entitlement program that they "deserve" because they "paid into it". When they did NOT "pay into it". The "evil" employer pays for it.
Typically, those same people "miss the boat" on a load of other issues.
Shame on those who wrote the bill for loading it with pork and agenda at the expense of those who need the assistance.
Actually, you are missing the boat.. Whether we are actually charged the tax on unemployment or not.. we are still paying for it.. If the gov't offers it.. it comes from our tax dollars... if employers are paying for it then it is coming at the cost of possible higher wages and higher costs on products that we buy.. so in the end, we do pay for it.. maybe not directly... but we do pay for it.
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The only money the Govt has is what it takes away from the people. We all pay for unemployment.
My Brother-in Law was on unemployment for two years. When it ran out he went out and found a job. He doesn't like it ( running a forklift nights at BJ's ) but he likes eating and living indoors. How long is fair? Two years is a long time. Most Americans don't have a work ethic like Jules anymore.
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Tux,
I am hardly missing the boat as I do pay those employment taxes...and feel/know all to well what that expense does to my bottom line and my cost of services.
The real boat in this issue is here:
"Shame on those who wrote the bill for loading it with pork and agenda at the expense of those who need the assistance."
Somehow...that gets spun around as Republicans "thwarting a bill with unemployment aid"...which is a load of crap.
BTW, it appears that we are in agreement for the most part.
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