In 2009 people were detained at an Arab Festival at the request of festival security, who lied to the police. The video evidence cleared the people's names however nothing was done to those that made false statements to police officers.
This year the men were quickly approached outside the Festival by Dearborn police for distributing leaflets on the sidewalk.
It would have been better if they had left the camera running for those 3 minutes "in between" handing out the first leaflet and the 20 or so police arriving. (Note: 20 police seems like massive, massive overkill. No wonder Detroit has such a huge crime problem)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I have no problem with them passing out leaflets. I also have no problem with followers of islam passing out leaflets to christians at their parties and gatherings. Equal opportunity and whatnot.
I found a comment on a site of this video that is interesting and leads me to believe there is more to this, but I can't find any news stories in print.
Here's the comment:
Quote: Just a question--what occurred in the "three minutes" that was edited out of the video? If nothing happened in that three minutes, you shouldn't have a problem with putting it up on YouTube, right? It doesn't need any fancy production values, just label it "Unedited Video" and upload it.
Of course, it might not be that you did anything yesterday to deserve being asked to leave, but that this was additional fallout from Friday night's incident. The fact that you were told to get five blocks away sounds like you were under some sort of police order to stay a certain distance away because of the original incident. Is that the case?
Also, can you get, scan and post Friday's police incident report?
And, finally, can you explain why you and your group have had such bad experiences when it doesn't appear that Josh McDowell's group (or any of the other Christians at the festival) had issues? Even pastor George Saieg got the Sixth Circuit to overturn a federal order keeping him at a festival booth. June 21, 2010 4:36 PM
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
The woman seriously considers herself a "modern day Crusader" hellbent on waging war on Islam.
Christians would be up in arms if an Atheist group decided to go stand outside their churches.
But, since these Christians decide to harass Muslims at a festival of their own, they expect to get off the hook? Those people were looking to cause trouble by simply deciding to hand out Christian material at a predominently Muslim function.
This would be akin to an Atheist group going to a funeral and handing out pamphlets declaring that there was no God.
SIOA will sink to Westboro Baptist Church tactics in their "War" on Islam.
The woman seriously considers herself a "modern day Crusader" hellbent on waging war on Islam.
Christians would be up in arms if an Atheist group decided to go stand outside their churches.
But, since these Christians decide to harass Muslims at a festival of their own, they expect to get off the hook? Those people were looking to cause trouble by simply deciding to hand out Christian material at a predominently Muslim function.
This would be akin to an Atheist group going to a funeral and handing out pamphlets declaring that there was no God.
SIOA will sink to Westboro Baptist Church tactics in their "War" on Islam.
Who's to they ARE Christians? There are scads of ninnies wandering arounding proclaiming Christ, doesn't mean they're Christians.
I could say I was a commercial pilot but you wouldn't want me to pilot your flight!
Quote: Who's to they ARE Christians? There are scads of ninnies wandering arounding proclaiming Christ, doesn't mean they're Christians.
They believe they are doing God's work and that they're Christians. That's all that matters. They could point to you, call you a pretender, and make the same argument with the opposite viewpoint. Who's to decide who's right?
Quote: Don't lump everyone into the same group...
How was he lumping anyone together? He was saying that this group may be willfully deceiving a vast majority of people to suit their own ideals. Something decidedly unchristian.
The woman seriously considers herself a "modern day Crusader" hellbent on waging war on Islam.
Christians would be up in arms if an Atheist group decided to go stand outside their churches.
But, since these Christians decide to harass Muslims at a festival of their own, they expect to get off the hook? Those people were looking to cause trouble by simply deciding to hand out Christian material at a predominently Muslim function.
This would be akin to an Atheist group going to a funeral and handing out pamphlets declaring that there was no God.
SIOA will sink to Westboro Baptist Church tactics in their "War" on Islam.
Don't lose your rights because you are blinded by bias, it is a silly way to toss them away. Not saying you are right or wrong to dislike the group mind you...
If the Westboro Baptist Church has the right to attend and interrupt funerals how does another group not have the right to distribute leaflets, or even talk, to people outside of a public festival? Do we arrest peaceful protesters outside of a KKK rally? Do we arrest 'Taste Great' supports outside of a "Less Filling" rally? Do we have anything in the Constitution that protects it?
I think wrong is wrong, regardless if I like the victims or not.
