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The charges against Browns DL Shaun Rogers for carrying a loaded weapon while trying to board an airplane will be dropped after he completes a 12-month diversion program.
Rogers must also complete a 10-hour weapons course and 40 hours of community service. The NFL was waiting for the legal process to play out before handing down discipline. It's conceivable that Rogers will escape a suspension since the charges are being dropped.
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I wonder if he'll still face a suspension from the principal's office.
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Charges dropped? Was Braylon Edwards the Prosecutor? 
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I wonder if he'll still face a suspension from the principal's office.
If he does it will be greatly reduced.
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Considering this is a first offense that wasn't violent in nature and likely doesn't hurt the league's image, I won't be surprised if he doesn't get suspended. It might be something conditional like that he has to stay out of trouble or do so much community service, etc. Maybe a fine from the league just to hurt him a little bit.
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Charges dropped? Was Braylon Edwards the Prosecutor?
Normally I'd say this is a tired joke and we need to get over Braylon, but that was too good.
Bravo, sir.
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the charges were dropped but only if he completes a course and community service?
isn't that more like the charges being reduced?
I expect a suspension from Goodell, but perhaps only for 2 games (and possibly not until the 2011 season if they let the legal process conclude first)
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Must be a relative that judge. LOL about Brayin'E dropping charges. Wonder if he got that from his mom or his dad . . . .  Good stuff, that! 
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When this happened, I laid out a scenario where Holmgren and the Browns go to bat for Rogers, save his bacon, thus Rogers feels obliged to put forth a true effort to be in shape and play up to his ability.
I don't know exactly how Rogers beat this charge, but it will be interesting to see what kind of effort Rogers gives Mangini this year.
Now, what will the NFL do?
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First offense, non-violent, charges dropped.. I think the NFL gives, at most, 1 game.. just because it involves a gun and that is the PC crap thing to do.
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First offense, non-violent, charges dropped.. I think the NFL gives, at most, 1 game.. just because it involves a gun and that is the PC crap thing to do.
stupidity merits a suspension. especially since another DL on the same team had the same thing charged on him a few months prior.
1 game is probably most fair. 2 is more likely (because it involved a gun). IMO.
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First offense, non-violent, charges dropped.. I think the NFL gives, at most, 1 game.. just because it involves a gun and that is the PC crap thing to do.
The PC crap thing to do?
I've heard two or three references on the board lately that refer to something being done in the name of 'P.C.' when in fact it was done in the name of common sense.
Dude walked into an airport with a loaded handgun. One in the chamber. And he did not have Ohio licenses, correct?
That's conduct, nevermind what the law has to say.
He should get a 1-2 game sitdown, but not because of 'P.C. crap' involving a gun, but because he's an idiot who's embarrassing his company.
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First offense, non-violent, charges dropped.. I think the NFL gives, at most, 1 game.. just because it involves a gun and that is the PC crap thing to do.
The PC crap thing to do?
I've heard two or three references on the board lately that refer to something being done in the name of 'P.C.' when in fact it was done in the name of common sense.
Dude walked into an airport with a loaded handgun. One in the chamber. And he did not have Ohio licenses, correct?
That's conduct, nevermind what the law has to say.
He should get a 1-2 game sitdown, but not because of 'P.C. crap' involving a gun, but because he's an idiot who's embarrassing his company.
Ah, you and DC are both right. DC's point stands - it involves a gun, so it's "major" in the politically correct world we live in.
Your point stands - common sense takes care of this thing.
Don't argue just to argue - you're both right. The p.c. thing IS coming into play here. After all, no harm no foul, right? He screwed up - there's a penalty for screwing up.
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Maybe he will get a 4 game preseason suspension?
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But what is P.C., exactly?
It often gets defined as a limp-wristed liberal way of thinking ... but in reality it goes way beyond those bounds. I hear folks who consider themselves conservative using this line of thinking all of the time, even as they ridicule things as being P.C.
I think we are a very P.C. nation in terms of war. Can't criticize the president, can't criticize the war, can't undermine the troops mission, etc.
At this juncture, it may as well be called P.O. -- popular opinion. A status quo for a popular opinion is set (regardless of it's truth), and thus the rest of the sheep follow in line.
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But what is P.C., exactly?
It often gets defined as a limp-wristed liberal way of thinking ... but in reality it goes way beyond those bounds. I hear folks who consider themselves conservative using this line of thinking all of the time, even as they ridicule things as being P.C.
I think we are a very P.C. nation in terms of war. Can't criticize the president, can't criticize the war, can't undermine the troops mission, etc.
At this juncture, it may as well be called P.O. -- popular opinion. A status quo for a popular opinion is set (regardless of it's truth), and thus the rest of the sheep follow in line.
Call it what ever you want. It doesn't change what it is. You wanna call it popular opinion? Fine. (I disagree with "popular opinion" - but the meaning is basically the same in this instance)
Being afraid to speak your mind, or take/make an action (a legal action of course), because of p.c. or p.o. is a crock.
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I think anyone that forgets where their loaded gun is deserves much more than a wrist slap. If you choose to own and carry a loaded weapon, you are accepting a huge responsibility and should be held accountable. When it comes to lethal weapons, there's no such thing as "mistakes" or "accidents" when things go wrong.....only negligence or willful acts of violence.
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I think anyone that forgets where their loaded gun is deserves much more than a wrist slap. If you choose to own and carry a loaded weapon, you are accepting a huge responsibility and should be held accountable. When it comes to lethal weapons, there's no such thing as "mistakes" or "accidents" when things go wrong.....only negligence or willful acts of violence.
Agreed. 100%.
I don't believe I said otherwise, did I? He screwed up - I'm not excusing that.
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When it comes to lethal weapons, there's no such thing as "mistakes" or "accidents" when things go wrong.....only negligence or willful acts of violence.
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I think anyone that forgets where their loaded gun is deserves much more than a wrist slap. If you choose to own and carry a loaded weapon, you are accepting a huge responsibility and should be held accountable. When it comes to lethal weapons, there's no such thing as "mistakes" or "accidents" when things go wrong.....only negligence or willful acts of violence.
With this, I absolutely agree with you.
Shaun Rogers might be on our roster, same with Smith. But are you kidding me?
These guys both deserve to be suspended for more than "two games". How dumb can they be to try to bring a gun carry on?
I love my team, but Robaire Smith and Rogers have both lost a lot of respect in my book. It really goes to show how stupid some of these pro athletes are. These are adults (at least age-wise they are), not kids. Anyone with common sense knows that you can't carry a gun onto a plane. And if you own a gun, you should know where it is 24/7, no matter what.
Robaire and Rogers are two guys that made a very serious mistake. They're complete idiots, and they're walking advocates for gun control. It just amazes me that two guys on our team did this, how stupid can they be? I'm kind of embarrassed to have these guys on the team. Complete morons, whatever Goodell gives them, they probably deserve. As someone who supports the right to bear arms, these guys are a true example of why owning a gun should be a privilege. People like Smith and Rogers are kind of a danger to society. May be an IQ test is necessary or something?
This is no slap on the wrist mistake that they made, and I kind of feel like they are both a danger to society
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I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible...
I hope they both get some sort of suspension on grounds of stupidity.
I hope Rogers gets double what Smith gets based on the fact that Smith was caught first, and then Rogers did the same thing after (was Rogers with Robaire when Robaire's gun was in his suitcase?).
I hope both guys are back a game or two before we hit our tough stretch of the season.
I don't think any of those things are unreasonable.
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NFL confirms review of Shaun Rogers case; suspension expected
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 13, 2010 10:07 PM ET
The NFL has confirmed that the placement of Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers into a 12-month diversion program stemming from his arrest on weapons charges is enough to trigger a review of the case for potential discipline under the league's personal conduct policy.
''Now that the matter has been resolved in court, it is being reviewed under our policies,'' NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.
It would come as a surprise to Browns president Mike Holmgren if that review doesn't trigger a suspension. Holmgren said in May that he was expecting Rogers to be suspended.
"I think he messed up and he knows it," Holmgren said of Rogers. "But I like how he's working. Hopefully, he won't make the same mistake again."
Even if Rogers doesn't make the same mistake again (and really, we can't imagine mistakenly trying to board a plane with a gun twice), making the mistake once will be enough to incur the wrath of the league office.
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