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I know, been a bad week end for me, lost a dear friend and now it look's like im trying to start a fight on here, sorry everyone! I had to watch it over to see it ugh! Im getting old or somthing! lol.




I don't see anything aggressive in your postings shotty!

When I first viewed it I couldn't tell contact points at all, I was focused on looking for the incident with the wife and it wasn't at all clear. It wasn't until the third time when I heard him tell her to move that I saw she put her arm up as a shield between him and her husband. The fourth time I noticed the two bumps on the guy with the camera, which should have been the most obvious.

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Just like the biased media does, mac, Charlie and others turned a story about neo-nazis on the border, into a Tea party discussion.

This story had nothing to do with "tea parties", but just like the left leaning media, it has been twisted to include the tea party.

These same tactics were used for years in communist countries. By suggesting that this guy "might " be involved with the "Tea Party" , mac has sucked in many posters who by the time the thread is read will believe it had to do with the tea party.

I attended quite a few "Tea Parties" this past year. Race has had nothing to do with any of them. The left has injected race into the discussion just as mac has done here with the neo nazis.

While I agree that many people at these gatherings don't know all the facts about what is being said, they all are there for the same reason. It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with government control. What I have witnessed is an outrage that the "representatives" that have been elected are choosing to do the opposite of what the people that elected them want them to. They are not representing, they are voting against their constituents.

People who bash the "Tea Party" are usually people who actually believe that it is a "party" like the Dems and Reps. We who attend are not "teabaggers" or Tea Partiers, we are Americans who believe that the constitution is being ignored. The media has spun this movement in a way that it can be lumped in with other "groups".

For the guy who insists they are bankrolled by big business or right wing groups, you are mistaken. The ones that I personally have attended are put together by local people and attended by local people. We are not affiliated with anyone, not the Sean Hannity's or Rush Limbaugh's. In reality, they are trying to become part of OUR movement, we are not part of their's.

Question.......Mac have you been to a "tea party"? Charlie? My guess is not. So in reality, you have no clue what they are about. The media doesn't even cover them. I have seen "plants" at some of these rallies, and they are obvious. Yet it seems that when they are present, somehow the media seems to show up. You have no right to comment on what we are about, until you actually experience it for yourself.


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I attended quite a few "Tea Parties" this past year. Race has had nothing to do with any of them. The left has injected race into the discussion just as mac has done here with the neo nazis.




Yea, the TEA Part never goes after Obama because of his race!

Obama as Witchdoctor

Ummm ... Obama a Witchdoctor? In Tribal garb? Umm ... haven't African-Americans been dehumanized and called what was one word? Oh yea: Savage

So, Obama depicted as a Witchdoctor by TEA partiers, no way is that racist.

Obama as Chimpanzee

Hmmm ... no way can that be racism. Comparing African-Americans to monkeys is so very socially acceptable, right?

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Question.......Mac have you been to a "tea party"? Charlie? My guess is not. So in reality, you have no clue what they are about.




No, I've never been to one. But, since they are so accepting of people of different political groups. They wouldn't mind a socialist in their group, right?

Oh wait up, the TEA party is the group that claims that Obama is anything that can possibly end in an "ist". Why would I want to go and join a group that is so upset that the person they didn't want to win the election won, that they go off in groups and burn Obama in effigy.



No way can that be possibly racist either. The TEA Party is made up of a bunch of good ol' boys just off having fun. Why don't I go to a TEA Party rally? Because I refuse to associate with them. They believe in the polar opposite of me. Why don't you go join a Steelers fan club? Because none of us are Steelers fans!

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The media doesn't even cover them. I have seen "plants" at some of these rallies, and they are obvious.




So, was Rand Paul a plant when he said that he disagreed with the Civil Rights Amendment? He stated that he felt it wasn't the government's business to tell a private business that they can't deny somebody due to their race. In Rand Paul's TEA Party America, it is ok to have segregation.


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But, since they are so accepting of people of different political groups. They wouldn't mind a socialist in their group, right?




So I am sure you object to Obama for his bad contacts as well, of course.



Pretty racist comments, but Obama doesn't think it's particularly bad.

But if you object to the guy don't worry, the Jews are keeping him from Obama now.



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So I am sure you object to Obama for his bad contacts as well, of course.




That is a Preacher.

So, should I condemn you for everything your preacher has said?

Because I would LOVE to point all how all-caring the Judeo-Christian god is.

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That is a Preacher.



And your point is? Is it that this preacher, the guy that mixes politics with his sermons, is wrong? Or do you think he's right? Doesn't much matter...........he spoke his mind. His mind is screwed up. That's the bottom line.
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So, should I condemn you for everything your preacher has said?




Yes and no. If my preacher were gd'ing the u.s., yeah, I would disagree with him, and I wouldn't attend anymore. And the last thing I would do is defend him.

If my preacher were blaming the problems of the world on the u.s. gov't., or on black people - or white, or mexican, or............ darn right I would quit going to that church.

I wouldn't defend the preacher at all.
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Because I would LOVE to point all how all-caring the Judeo-Christian god is.




You don't know the God - you know a few examples of people that misuse God. I do too. I know some examples of people that misuse Islam - I don't condemn islam.

Back to the topic. This jd ready guy - jt - whatever. Does he speak FOR the Tea party? Or does he speak of his own accord while trying to belong to the tea party?

As soon as you answer that, then tell me what this shabazz guy speaks for. Does he speak for the democratic party? Or does he simply associate himself with the party? (we all know he speaks for the black panther party - and honestly, any party that condones and invites the killing of cops and a certain ethnic group - well, they don't speak for many people - ready included)

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So I am sure you object to Obama for his bad contacts as well, of course.




That is a Preacher.

So, should I condemn you for everything your preacher has said?

Because I would LOVE to point all how all-caring the Judeo-Christian god is.




One of us is condemning people by association. The other isn't.

Wait, let me correct myself. One of us is selectively condemning people by association.

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Obviously, you forgot about the George Bush Monkey Face



Frankly I have no time for anyone that has an agenda against other groups. It is all disgusting.

People have to be reminded that America is open for all, and we can't pick and choose those who come here. The country has been fighting this since its inception. At one time it was germans, italians, irish, polish, and every other culture that was different.

I don't understand why the "birthers" have not been chastized for their made up arguement, or how anyone can state that the constitution was a church document.


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Why they haven't been chastised? Really? The only reason they even get brought up is the White House. These guys make for easy fund raising. I wouldn't doubt Obama has his actual birth certificate but won't release it so these guys continue surface. They are such loons that all main stream conservatives wish they would disappear. No matter what we say or do won't shut those wack jobs up.


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Back to the topic. This jd ready guy - jt - whatever. Does he speak FOR the Tea party? Or does he speak of his own accord while trying to belong to the tea party?




Yes, he does speak for them. He has been invited to speak for the TEA party on several occasions which can be found on youtube. All of them involve him preaching against Obama (or as he calls him Obongo - a play off of bongo drums which are popular in the Caribbean and Africa).

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As soon as you answer that, then tell me what this shabazz guy speaks for.




He is the leader of the "New" Black Panther Party. Nothing more. He hasn't been invited to speak FOR the Democratic Party before and likely NEVER will.


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Or does he simply associate himself with the party? (we all know he speaks for the black panther party - and honestly, any party that condones and invites the killing of cops and a certain ethnic group - well, they don't speak for many people - ready included)




He does not speak for the Democratic Party and he never has. J.T. Ready though, he has spoken for the TEA Party. He is the head of their Arizona Chapter and he also has been invited to speak for the TEA Party in Arizona.

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granted, I just did a quick search, but I can't find where jt ready is the "head" of the Arizona Tea party.

Can you show me some references that he is the "head" of the so called arizona tea party?

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Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 08:29 ET
The right bails on Birthers
O'Reilly, Coulter and others call it bunk -- with one, big notable exception Video
By Vincent Rossmeier What has the world come to when Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly represent the rational side of the Republican Party?

Though the House just voted unanimously to affirm that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, conservative members of the U.S. Congress have played a significant role in making sure the allegations about President Obama's birth certificate remain in the news. But it's been pundits like CNN's Lou Dobbs who have done the most to fan doubts about Obama's citizenship by giving airtime to proponents of easily debunked myths.

However, some of the conservative movement's most notorious and recognizable media personalities haven't jumped on the Birther crazy train. On Monday, Bill O'Reilly joined those media conservatives -- like Ann Coulter, who dissed them on Friday -- who've bailed on the Birthers. Here's a list of notables who have either spoken out against the Birthers or who at least have kept quiet about the issue recently:


•Bill O'Reilly -- Shocking as it may seem to those who watch the Fox News commentator's show on a regular basis, Monday night O'Reilly not only called the Birthers' claims "bogus" but criticized Dobbs for supporting the movement on CNN. Now, as the video below shows, O'Reilly won't be replacing Robert Gibbs as press secretary just yet: O'Reilly went on to defend Dobbs' right to stay on the air and talk about anything he wants, even if it is a ratings ploy.




•Ann Coulter & Mike Huckabee -- There's no love lost between Coulter and Obama, but when it comes to the Birther issue, the right-wing pundit has shown more restraint than she has when discussing liberal politicians in the past. Recently, on Fox News, Coulter said Lou Dobbs was wrong about the Birthers, called the movement's members "cranks" and compared them to participants in the Ku Klux Klan. In the same Fox segment, Huckabee, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, also discredited the Birthers, arguing that if there was any legitimacy to the story, Hillary Clinton's team would have uncovered the truth during the campaign.




•Joe Scarborough -- While the MSNBC host has made some ponderous arguments against Obama's policies in the past, and continues to believe that Obama's Washington is stealing money from U.S. citizens, he has criticized Birthers as "conspiracy theorists."




•Michelle Malkin -- Hardly a fan of Obama, Malkin has shown little tolerance for the Birthers' allegations. In a December 2008 column, Malkin covered the growing influence of conspiracy theorists in politics, writing, "I believe Trig was born to Sarah Palin. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on U.S. soil. I believe fire can melt steel and that bin Laden’s jihadi crew -- not Bush and Cheney -- perpetrated mass murder on 9/11. What kind of kooky conspiracist does that make me?"
•Rush Limbaugh -- It's not so much what Limbaugh's said about the Birther movement lately than what he hasn't. As recently as July 20, Limbaugh said that "Barack Obama has yet to have to prove he's a citizen. All he'd have to do is show a birth certificate." But since the time, as Media Matters points out, all during the hubbub surrounding Dobbs' comments, Limbaugh has been remarkably silent on the issue.

UPDATE:

The National Review Online has also gotten into the Birther-denunciation act. In an editorial today, the conservative publication's editorial board comes out staunchly on the side that Obama is an American citizen -- though the piece heavily condemns Obama's policies:


Much foolishness has become attached to the question of President Obama’s place of birth, and a few misguided souls among the Right have indulged it. The myth that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president represents the hunt for a magic bullet that will make all the unpleasant complications of his election and presidency disappear ...

One of the unfortunate consequences of this red-herring discussion is that there are plenty of questions about Obama’s background and history that we would like to have answered. In spite of two books of memoirs, there remain murky areas in his biography. And when it comes to those college transcripts, count us among those who’d love to know whether Dr. Bailout ever took an advanced economics class and how he performed in it.

Barack Obama may prefer European-style socialized health care. He may consider himself a citizen of the Earth and sometimes address his audiences as “people of the world,” as though he were born not in another country but on another planet. Like Bruce Springsteen, he has a lot of bad political ideas; but he was born in the U.S.A.


Vincent Rossmeier is an editorial assistant at Salon.




http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/07/28/conservative_birthers


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He is the leader of the "New" Black Panther Party. Nothing more. He hasn't been invited to speak FOR the Democratic Party before and likely NEVER will.





guess again Charlie. It looks like several elected democrats have put this guy on their campaign payroll.

Many local Democrats have put New Black Panther leader on their payrolls

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Arch, i took a look as well. There are so many tea party groups it would take me forever to try and find him. I did a google search and came up with zip,


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This is what the Trumbull County Tea Party stands for...

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We are proud to be a part of the national Campaign for Liberty which was brought about by the Ron Paul Revolution. We stand by the Mission Statement of the Campaign for Liberty which is: To promote and defend the great American principles of individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets, and a noninterventionist foreign policy, by means of educational and political activity. If you believe, as Ron Paul does, that we should end the IRS, repeal NAFTA, CAFTA and stop the North American Union, Secure our Borders and refuse welfare to Illegals; If you are against socialized medicine, for the right to life, for 2nd Amendment rights and against gun regulation, we would like very much for you to join us in our quest to bring America back to what our Founding Fathers meant it to be.





You can find a group near you. You may only be one of two members.

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Default.aspx?state=Ohio


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He is the leader of the "New" Black Panther Party. Nothing more. He hasn't been invited to speak FOR the Democratic Party before and likely NEVER will.





guess again Charlie. It looks like several elected democrats have put this guy on their campaign payroll.

Many local Democrats have put New Black Panther leader on their payrolls




Man the truth really is inconvenient sometimes .....


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How is it the truth again? Connect the dots for me on how him being paid by democrats makes him speak for the entire Democratic Party?

And tell me how a guy who runs (allegedly?) the Arizona branch of the Tea Party speaks for the whole Tea Party? I can't connect that dot either.

I swear this place has everything in heaps except sense. You guys make my head hurt.


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It is just as valid as people claiming that some guy who shows up at a Tea party rally being somehow the backbone of that movement, and that people should apologize for his presence.

Actually .... it's a little more valid .... because the Democrats in question actually hired and paid that vile and disgusting person to be part of their campaigns.


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i can't speak for Y-town but I can tell you my impersonation of Mac (spamming the board with useless articles and videos) was because of the attempts by a few on here to dis Tea Partiers as a bunch of racists. I have gotten tired of reading the same old crap by those who know better but find it amusing to disparage a group made up of mostly good people. I am betting a large majority of the members were never politically active. I have read of Tea Party groups speaking out against others that claim to have the same beliefs but spew garbage.

I am not now, was never in the past, and won't be in the future connected to the Tea Party movement. However, I have done some research and I can tell you that anyone can start their own chapter. I found many with only one member. I can also tell you that the guy that is supposedly a Tea Party member in Arizona is not the head of the Arizona Chapters. He might very well have a chapter (I stopped looking) but since there are at least 60 in Arizona I don't imagine it is very large.

There is no Tea Party per se. It's just a bunch of loosely affiliated people that tend to have similar beliefs, smaller government being one of them. A local one to me thinks that the government should do away with treaties like NAFTA. That doesn't sound like a conservative idea does it?


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guess again Charlie. It looks like several elected democrats have put this guy on their campaign payroll.

Many local Democrats have put New Black Panther leader on their payrolls




You use an article from a site that is devoted to ultra-right wing politics? Or, as someone said earlier, a blog? You can also go off about how you have proof that Milosevic should be declared a Saint because he was killing Muslims in Kosovo by going to Pamela Geller's website. But just because Pamela Geller says that Milosevic was a Saint, doesn't make it so. He was a despicable human being and a war criminal.

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Just three weeks ago at a tea party rally in Tempe, he handed out fliers calling for landmines to be placed along the Mexican border to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing into Arizona.

Now, neo-Nazi J.T. Ready says he plans to lead an armed group into the desert south of Phoenix this weekend to put a stop to what he called “narco-terrorists.”

Ready appeared decked out in camouflage during an interview Wednesday with KPNX (Channel 12). He showed off a stockpile of guns and ammunition he plans to take with him and claimed his group will stake out an area of Pinal County that drug smugglers use as a route to bring “chemical warfare into Phoenix.”
Ready has grabbed more traction with local media in recent months as the debate over illegal immigration heats up. He has also appeared frequently at rallies and protests in support of Arizona’s new immigration law, hoping to attract supporters to his cause.

That was no different on May 29 at the “Stand With Arizona” rally in Tempe, an event organized by several tea party groups.

Ready was there handing out fliers for the Mesa chapter of the National Socialist Movement, the largest neo-Nazi group in the United States.

The fliers carried Ready’s name and a picture of a landmine. “We all should be actively advocating daily to mainstream America the most humane, non-racist, fair border security plan available,” they said. “Namely, A MINEFIELD!”

The flier, photocopied on plain-white paper, carried the letters “N.S.M.” as well as the address for post office box in Mesa, a local phone number and an email address that contained the number 88, a neo-Nazi code meaning “Heil Hitler.”

Ready and another man told Heat City that night they handed out 1,000 fliers at the event but were having little success getting their message across.

Ready has a history of engaging in armed confrontation with immigrants.

When he was running for Mesa City Council in 2006 — a race in which he came in second place — he followed a vehicle down a dead-end street and corned a Hispanic man who later turned out to be an illegal immigrant.

Ready said the man opened fire on him with a BB gun, and he returned fire with a .38 revolver he pulled from an ankle holster.

Both escaped injury and police arrested the other man that night. A month later, the man pleaded guilty to giving a false name to authorities.

The fact that the man received such a minor charge upset Ready, who told the judge overseeing the case that the other man should have been convicted of assault. Ready called it at the time “a travesty of justice.”

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He does not speak for the Democratic Party and he never has. J.T. Ready though, he has spoken for the TEA Party. He is the head of their Arizona Chapter and he also has been invited to speak for the TEA Party in Arizona.




Please give me a link where it shows he is the head of the Arizona chapter. Here's a hint...I found 60 different chapters in the state of Arizona. I do know that he is not the head of anything coming close to the entire state of Arizona.


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Please give me a link where it shows he is the head of the Arizona chapter. Here's a hint...I found 60 different chapters in the state of Arizona. I do know that he is not the head of anything coming close to the entire state of Arizona.




He's not. However, he does attend TEA Party rallies on a regular basis and has been guest speaker at several rallies, which are documented.

But, if you must know, he's a Republican. Which he ran as in 2008 for Mesa City Council.
J.T. Ready So Racist that Republicans didn't want to associate with him

J.T. Ready doesn't have to be a leader of the TEA Party. He and others like him are associated with it. The TEA Party is a haven for proto-fascist idealogies. The ideas that are spread amongst them have a very good chance of leading towards Fascism. Whether it is the reintroduction of segregation as Rand Paul prescribes to, the oppression of a specific culture as Pamela Geller wishes, the elimination of "undesirables" in society as Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck spiel.

The right-wing is a haven for racism.

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So what you are saying is that he isn't the head of any tea party group even though you stated it earlie. In fact you only corrected yourself after being challenged to provide a link.

As to racist on the right finding haven in the Republican Party.

You're right. Considering there is onlt 2 major parties it only makes sense to them to join the Republicans since they are to the right. I think you are also being dishonest by not mentioning that Republicans denounce them and want them out of the party.

By your logic those on the left politically that join the democratic party should be seen the same as those on the right. So I guess all of those that kill and riot from anti war protestors and G 8 and G 20 protestors speak for democrats. Neo nazi's and white supremists are the only ones who preach hate.

The thing is that me and others that post on here from the right repeatedly show our distaste for them. Have you ever spoken out against the murders and hate mongers that find haven in the Democratic Party?

Please excuse my poor spelling. It's late and I can't see very well. I also just had my laptop fixed and haven't loaded Firefox yet (it has a spell checker).


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By your logic those on the left politically that join the democratic party should be seen the same as those on the right. So I guess all of those that kill and riot from anti war protestors and G 8 and G 20 protestors speak for democrats.




Racism on the left? That is a bit of a misnomer. Political parties are somewhat like shoes in the broad sense. On the left of the political spectrum people generally believe in the better side of humanity - helping others and seeing each other not as seperates but as equals. Regardless of race, gender, or nationality. The right, focuses more on nationalism. Believing in their own superiority over others. Not equality but rather superiority.

Hitler believed in the racial superiority of Germans. The Republican/Tea Party etc.. believe in the superiority of "Americans" and their general idea of an "American" is a WASP.

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Way to deflect. I never used the word racism and I never implied it.

Your assertion about the right is a complete joke.


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Jason "J.T." Ready, who is tied to the white supremacist National Socialist Movement, has organized an armed militia to patrol the border and kill or capture immigrants trying to escape into the United States.

"We're not going to sit around and wait for the government anymore," Ready told the AP. "This is what our founding fathers did."




Regardless of who he represents... we have laws in this country that says how crimes are to be handled. Nowhere does it say illegal immigrants are to be killed. Couple this with the flyers, the recruiting, the language, and the stockpilingof weapons (I doubt his "landmines" are registered) and this guy needs to be detained. The fact that he isn't and that Arizona allows this pseudo-SS to run around threatening death is awful.

When did our "founding fathers" go around killing immigrants? Is he talking about the Nazis?

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Your Witchdoctor, Monkey and video. I didn't see anything connecting them to the TEA party. Did I miss it?


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Rand Paul never said that wanted to reintroduce segregation in our country. What he said was that a businessman has the same right to exclude people from his business as he does his home, as they are both his private property. Now, that doesn't mean he would agree with someone actually excluding a customer because of his race. Not only on moral grounds but in this day and age, it would create a lot of controversy and boycotts/and lost business.

So no, I don't feel that someone opposing to parts of the Civil Rights Bill automatically makes them a racist anymore than supporting free speech automatically making someone a pornographer. Now if he came out saying that he supported reintroducing the Jim Crow laws, that would be slightly different as that would be government forcing segregation upon its citizens. But he didn't.

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I'm extremely confused with the walking dichotomy of JT Ready. On one hand, he holds to the Nazi socialist ideals, yet he wants a smaller US government as indicated by his time spent with the Tea Party (which doesn't mean he's a tea partier). He is obviously someone who holds a love for this country, but spends his time idolizing a man from another country. Guy must have the most complex brain in the world in order to deal with the cognitive dissonance he experiences daily ...


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Racism on the left? That is a bit of a misnomer. Political parties are somewhat like shoes in the broad sense. On the left of the political spectrum people generally believe in the better side of humanity - helping others and seeing each other not as seperates but as equals. Regardless of race, gender, or nationality. The right, focuses more on nationalism. Believing in their own superiority over others. Not equality but rather superiority.





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Racism on the left? That is a bit of a misnomer. Political parties are somewhat like shoes in the broad sense. On the left of the political spectrum people generally believe in the better side of humanity - helping others and seeing each other not as seperates but as equals. Regardless of race, gender, or nationality.



how do you even manage to move around seeing as how you are waist deep in crap most of the time?

On the left people generally believe in the better side of government to evenly distribute resources. On the left people generally believe that the constitution does not promise equal opportunity but rather that it promises equal outcomes... in short it does not involve seeing each other as equals it involves the goverment making sure that you ARE ALL EQUAL.... equal in income, equal in status, equal financially, equal in property ownership, equal in sacrifice... forced equality....

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The right, focuses more on nationalism. Believing in their own superiority over others. Not equality but rather superiority.

Hitler believed in the racial superiority of Germans. The Republican/Tea Party etc.. believe in the superiority of "Americans" and their general idea of an "American" is a WASP.



No, the right focuses on the individual.. the right focuses on the fact that your success is not guaranteed and that whether or not I have success in my life does not mean that I have to subsidize your success. Hitler also believed, like the left, that everybody should work for the betterment of the country as opposed to the individual. The right does not believe in the superiority of "Americans".. we believe in the superiority of the American system.... which is loaded down with tons of dead weight... If a Mexican or an Asian or a European wants to come here LEGALLY and participate in our system and make a success of him/herself.. then God bless them and their efforts to do that.. As an American I'm not one iota better than any other person on the face of this planet I was just lucky enough to be born in a country where I could make as much of my life as possible and the incentive was there to do it.. and I'd like to keep it that way.. the left would rather remove that incentive through taxes and support of the dead weight mentioned previously.


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If the left owned a sales company it would go something like this ...

100 salespeople.

The top 5 salemen made around 55% of all of the sales for the company.

The next 60 accounted for a total of 40% of the total sales for the company.

The other 35 accounted for 5% of the sales for the company.

That's not fair.

So ..... we're going to even out the "playing field", and ensure "fairness". All sales will be put into one big pool and divided out evenly. The commissions will also be divided evenly. Each salesperson will now show the same sales, and make the same amount of money.

That's fair for all, right?





Of course, then the top guys stop working almost entirely .....because why bust your butt for nothing except an "equal result" .......... and the company goes out of business .... because they can't survive on the production of just the bottom 95% of their salespeople.


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Thing is, that is not a fictional example.

It was a problem here when business was booming a couple years ago, where we had certain people who did just enough to get by and not get fired, others busted their butts, putting in overtime and whatever it took to keep the customers happy and the company profiting.

The company always took a percentage of it's monthly profits and paid out bonuses. It created a little resentment with the guys who busted their butts that everyone got the same bonus, especially when new procedures got put in place that identified the same slackers were regularly making mistakes that caused more work and ultimately ate at profits to fix the mistakes.

Eventually a system was put in place to subtract from the bonus of an employee for documented errors, but that didn't last when one contacted a lawyer.

Luckily the owners didn't just stop bonuses and went back to the equal bonus for all system, until business died.


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He knows that.. it's "based on a true story"...


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WHY BE UPSET WITH ME?

I do not understand why some are upset that I posted the story about the Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams and his group (Tea Party Express) being expelled from the National Tea Party over the racist letter Williams wrote to Abraham Lincoln...attempting to pass it off as satire?

Also, why be upset with me because I point the fact that, Neo Nazi, JT Ready, does have a history of association with the Tea Party?

I'M JUST THE MESSENGER...

I would say the Tea Party movement is at a crossroads of sorts, finally facing the more radical factions of the movement. Standing up against those Tea Party elements, such as the Tea Party Express, is a good start toward combating the claims of racism within the Tea Party movement, IMO.

If you want to be upset with someone...try being upset with those such as Mark Williams and JT Ready who are attempting to use the Tea Party movement to further their own personal agendas...

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WHY BE UPSET WITH ME?

I do not understand why some are upset that I posted the story about the Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams and his group (Tea Party Express) being expelled from the National Tea Party over the racist letter Williams wrote to Abraham Lincoln...attempting to pass it off as satire?

Also, why be upset with me because I point the fact that, Neo Nazi, JT Ready, does have a history of association with the Tea Party?



It's simple really mac.. because others have posted the radical elements within the New Black Panther Party and the radical elements within the Department of Justice that are intent on looking the other way at their felonious activities to get Obama elected and all of the other crap that's flying around and you won't address it..

Sure some people get upset at your completely lopsided posting of information.. but at least in getting up set they are addressing it.. where as when somebody posts something you don't like, you have 3 responses... attack the source, post an article from the Huffington Post, or give the standard "Bush did it too nah nee nah nee boo boo" response..

So what is your opinion of the New Black Panther Party and their support of Obama and what is your opinion of the Justice Department dropping an open and shut case against them in proving voter intimidation? Just curious.

or we could talk about Obama's radical recess appointment of Donald Berwick... his new healthcare czar that is just about as radical as they come...


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I agree. There will always be those with radical thoughts that try to take advantage of any such movements. Dealing with those will often shape your group/movement going forward. So, let's see how these are dealt with.

For those saying that these individuals should be arrested/detained. Our laws allow such thoughts, no matter how radical, to be expressed. Many of the actions their thoughts call for are illegal, but they cannot be arrested until they act on their thoughts.


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It's simple really mac.. because others have posted the radical elements within the New Black Panther Party




DC...but the New Black Panther Party is not the subject of this thread, is it?


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The silence will be deafening ......


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