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The Browns have signed free agent tight end Joel Gamble, the team announced Monday evening.
The Cleveland Browns today signed free agent tight end Joel Gamble, the team announced.
Gamble spent the final four weeks of the 2009 season on the Philadelphia Eagles’ practice squad. He also spent time in 2009 with the DC Armor of the American Indoor Football Association (AIFA) and has also seen action with the Tennessee Valley Vipers (2007), Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz (2007) and Bossier-Shreveport BattleWings (2008) of arenafootball2 (af2).
A four-year letterman at Shippensburg University (2001-04), Gamble appeared in 43 games, recording 46 receptions for 631 yards with five touchdowns. Born on December 25, 1982, the 6-2, 260-pound Gamble is a native of Baltimore Md., where he attended Carver High School.
from the the official site.
He went to my alma mater. there is a DB w/ the Falcons that went to Ship.
note where he played in the pros
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camp fodder? as long as the 1 & 2 spots look like below, I could care less who is #3... Let the best man win. lol.
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
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camp fodder and PS candidate. As much as I bad mouth Royal, I do believe he is better than he showed us last year. Can't be worse ..... 
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
the kid can catch, but does he have the speed for that?
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Sounds like a project at best....
Good Luck to the kid...go get 'em!!!
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
not a chance... Cribbs/Stuckey are playing that role.
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Guess they figured this guy was worth a himself. Don't thinkt hey bet too much. Quote:
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
the kid can catch, but does he have the speed for that?
He played WR in college.
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W00H0000! *Finally*, we have a viable replacement for Winslow!
Wait... just a camp body? Ok.
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
not a chance... Cribbs/Stuckey are playing that role.
They combined for about 39 catches and under 400 yards sharing that role last year.... I doubt the top brass considers that a firm lock on the postition.
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j/c
he's probably just a replacement for the tightend that was placed on IR, needed another TE in camp, and here he is - still a long shot to make it.
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1) how many times did we go into 3/4 WR sets..
2) who was the QB?
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he's probably just a replacement for the tightend that was placed on IR, needed another TE in camp, and here he is - still a long shot to make it.
The guy will turn 28 during the season.... yup, a longshot.
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A clear indication that we have no confidence in Watson, Moore, or Royal to do the job.
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A clear indication that we have no confidence in Watson, Moore, or Royal to do the job.
not true. teams bring in guys all the time just to take a look at them.
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A clear indication that we have no confidence in Watson, Moore, or Royal to do the job.
not true. teams bring in guys all the time just to take a look at them.
Dude... he was kidding.
That's how he got his post count so high. 
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What's funny is as soon as we waived Martin Rucker ... Heckert scooped him up and he's now with the Eagles. I liked Rucker's size and thought he could be pretty good ...
Who knows ... maybe this move is to bring someone in and unseat Robert "My hands are far from" Royal?
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camp fodder? as long as the 1 & 2 spots look like below, I could care less who is #3... Let the best man win. lol.
1)Watson
2)Moore
That's what I've been thinking as well. If Royal is our 3rd tight end he won't have many chances to catch the ball and he will mostly be a blocker, which is his strength.
Maybe Joel Gamble can be the Kurt Warner of tight ends. Did he ever work at a grocery store?
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I see this as a real gamble.
buh duh dum. Thanks. I'll be here all week.
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Could be they are bringing in a TE because they aren't viewing Moore as a TE anymore....he might be viewed more as a slot player.
not a chance... Cribbs/Stuckey are playing that role.
They combined for about 39 catches and under 400 yards sharing that role last year.... I doubt the top brass considers that a firm lock on the postition.
Moderate incompetence at QB may have also contributed to a lack of production on behalf of the WR corps. Not to beat that dead horse to death, as it's not exactly a guarantee that Delhomme will bring a semblance of stability but he does bring a semblance of experience at the position that we did not have last season.
Gamble, well he'll be a camp body. If he can make a name for us and make the team then that's a big thumbs up right there. It's not like Evan Moore was a guy who was on everyones radar at the beginning of last season. Granted, Gamble is a bit older but it doesn't mean he couldn't impress Mangini.
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I'm open to trying anything.. I was responding more to the "not a chance" part of your post as if Cribbs/Stuckey were locks in the slot... Hopefully all of our receivers will benefit from improved QB play but it's not like anybody our team is making people forget about Wes Welker as a slot receiver.
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If by moderate you mean "Sucks beyond belief" then I agree with you.
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 I was going to let that one go.
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They just put TE, Greg Estandia on IR a week or so ago. I don't know how many they need for camp but it could be all about that.
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camp fodder and PS candidate.
As much as I bad mouth Royal, I do believe he is better than he showed us last year. Can't be worse .....
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This is a bad move! I see it as a straight up move for move to get rid of Estandia for this guy. Estandia was not good (lets say a 3 out of 10 ) But at least Estandia was a consistent 3 out of 10 and could see game action and contribute. This guy looks like a Loser, a real bad low level bottom of the roster type guy but he is from philly, so is the GM, FIRST BAD MOVE BY THE GM, I hate it, pick up someone you knew in the past just because! We've seen it in Cleveland a dozen times Remember the right tackle B Davis brought in from Miami U? These type of guys do nothing for the team except make it worse. this is Don Carey draft pick bad Jerimaih Pharms draft pick bad Jets first round trade bad This is the first major problem I have with a GM who I like, even if he didn't make the decision, Just because the guy is from Philadelphia, ( the player) I have more confidence in Carlton Mitchell than I will if this guy even does well. this guy does not look like a Cleveland Brown, he looks like another Ricky Dudley. Why?  Expect Better! This is doing something on your back and saying it is raining. No more "buddy" signings, haven't we suffered enough. 60 some days from now, when this team is 0-3 who is going to remember that they went from a bad tight end to some worse tight end, who is going to remember Estandia for Gamble? Bring back Chad Mustard! strong wind philly practice squad.
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This is a bad move! I see it as a straight up move for move to get rid of Estandia for this guy. Estandia was not good (lets say a 3 out of 10 )
But at least Estandia was a consistent 3 out of 10 and could see game action and contribute.
This guy looks like a Loser, a real bad low level bottom of the roster type guy but he is from philly, so is the GM,
FIRST BAD MOVE BY THE GM, I hate it, pick up someone you knew in the past just because! We've seen it in Cleveland a dozen times
Remember the right tackle B Davis brought in from Miami U? These type of guys do nothing for the team except make it worse.
this is Don Carey draft pick bad
Jerimaih Pharms draft pick bad
Jets first round trade bad
This is the first major problem I have with a GM who I like, even if he didn't make the decision, Just because the guy is from Philadelphia, ( the player)
I have more confidence in Carlton Mitchell than I will if this guy even does well. this guy does not look like a Cleveland Brown, he looks like another Ricky Dudley.
Why?
Expect Better! This is doing something on your back and saying it is raining.
No more "buddy" signings, haven't we suffered enough.
60 some days from now, when this team is 0-3 who is going to remember that they went from a bad tight end to some worse tight end, who is going to remember Estandia for Gamble?
Bring back Chad Mustard!
strong wind philly practice squad.
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What's funny is as soon as we waived Martin Rucker ... Heckert scooped him up and he's now with the Eagles. I liked Rucker's size and thought he could be pretty good ...
Amazing. I post so infrequently now, but there is one thing I can always count on Browns fans to do: Complain about the loss of Martin Rucker.
Five years from now people will still be complaining that the Browns cut Rucker, who, by the way, didn't play in a single game for the Eagles last year.
"But they have Celek! He's good! So Rucker is pushed out of the picture!"
Yes, Celek is good, and he is only one player. Do you know what TE played over Rucker last year? Alex Smith. Do you know who we signed in the off season? Alex Simth.
Oh my, we must have someone even BETTER than Rucker!
Martin Rucker was a 4th round draft pick. He has registered two catches in his career, including none last season, in which he, again, did not play at all. He was on the Eagles practice squad for almost three months and no one picked him up.
Martin Rucker is not the one that got away. Jason Wright and Mike Sellers are more worthy of remembering fondly.
Martin Rucker is not the source of our problems. Watson is better than Rucker's ceiling ever was reasonably, so that issue is plugged and solved right away.
Martin Rucker is Martin Rucker.
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"Amazing. I post so infrequently now, but there is one thing I can always count on Browns fans to do: Complain about the loss of Martin Rucker."
I'm not complaining about the loss of him, I'm just saying if he went to a team with a quarterback that could throw .. he could be a decent target. Maybe his problem was he was picked up by a team with TOO MANY targets. He had good production in college (which I know is only college) but he did help Chase Daniel make a name for himself..
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if he went to a team with a quarterback that could throw .. he could be a decent target.
He went to a team with decent QB play all the way down to the 3rd string.... and he couldn't even get on the gameday rosters, much less the field. For three months, he couldn't even get on the actual roster.
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Who?? Whomever he is, he didn't make much of a name.
The kid is an athlete, no doubt... and he had a nice college career. All of that means nothing.
He is in the Pro's, and he's done absolutely nothing to distinguish himself and is barely able to hold onto a roster spot thus far.
As the saying goes: "You are only as good as your record". He is only as good as what he earns... and he ain't earned squat.
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As he pointed out, Alex Smith made it to the field while Rucker did not. It stands to reason that the Eagles thought more of Smith. We now have Smith and not Rucker.
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"He went to a team with decent QB play all the way down to the 3rd string.... and he couldn't even get on the gameday rosters, much less the field. For three months, he couldn't even get on the actual roster."
Yeah, but if you read the rest of my post instead of jumping to conclusions I said maybe there were TOO MANY targets in Philly..
Im not saying he could be the next Kellen Winslow for us .. but he came out the same year as Evan Moore did and a lot of people are so quick to annoint Moore as the next playmaking tight end (even though I do like him as a receiving threat..)
All I was trying to say is 6-8 months ago the cupboard was empty at any receiving threats and we could have used a guy who could block AND catch.
Rucker had to play on a team with Curtis, Jackson, Maclin, L.J. Smith, Westbrook, Buckhalter, Hank Baskett, and Reggie Brown as a solid core ... he had a hard fight for P.T.
Moore was signed from a practice squad and got the opportunity to step in because who was in front of him? MoMass and ...?
I Just think Rucker could have helped in the run and passing game as much as moore did
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Sure, it *could* be that there were too many targets... and you go on to cite a bunch of WR's that don't factor into the equation because he is a TE, not a WR. WR's aren't preventing him from getting on the field. They aren't what was keeping him off the roster and on their practice squad. Even the 3rd string QB can get the ball to targets on that team... so it isn't because of poor play from that position that he couldn't establish himself.
Could it be that we've got Alex Smith now because Rucker progressed to the point where Smith was expendable for them? Sure, could be.... potentially.
Could Rucker be all that and a bag of chips? Again - Potentially; but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Alex Smith was a non-factor all season long for them, and Rucker still couldn't unseat him at all.
My biggest guess as to why Smith is here and they kept Rucker is simply money. To tender Smith would have meant giving him more money than he is worth, and keeping Rucker gives them the same production - next to nothing - for much less.
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Well, Smith is 28 now.. signed a one year deal with us for $630k
Rucker is 25 and signed a 3 year deal with the Eagles in December .. so they like him enough for that I suppose (but yeah .. price might be a big factor .. only $475k this year ... so a difference of $155k? Not sure thats a big deal in an uncapped year... you could be right though because maybe smith wanted a longer term deal or even more money to be in Philly)
Plus .. I still think he will get a better chance this year .. but when you look at the numbers .. in 2009 Celek caught 76 of the team's 335 completions .. about 22.5%. Somewhere between 1 out of 4 and 1 out of 5 completions were caught by their tight end.. you think he is gonna get unseated by Rucker?
At the same time .. Alex smith had 3 catches .. and he has had more years in the league to learn how to contribute
Once again, I'm not saying he could be a hero ... just didn't know why I got jumped on for saying I would rather have him on our roster than Royal or even alex smith (and the Eagles seem to agree with that one). Especially now that we have coaches who develop players ..
but getting mad about his lack of production for us his first year when we didnt take him til the fourth just speaks volumes as how disappointing Robo's season was last year when he was the "most polished and NFL ready receiver in the draft"
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I don't think you really got jumped on; rowdy & I were just dissenting opinions that Rucker was worth the concern. I really liked him when we got him, and I wasn't real pleased when we cut him..... but the reality is that we haven't missed out on anything. Quote:
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That's the point. Alex Smith was a complete and utter Non-Factor for them.... and Rucker still couldn't move ahead of him. We're not talking about Celek and his catches... we're talking about Alex Smith and his complete lack of catches that Rucker couldn't unseat. It's about how Smith contributed so little, yet Rucker spent three months on the practice squad behind him.
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I don't know who's getting mad.. . but I think that getting upset about the production of any 4th rounder is silly.
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Gotcha - i get what you're saying and agree ...
BUT while I wont even proclaim his greatness .. I would still rather have rucker than royal or smith
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PPE covered it, but I'll add again that we weren't jumping on you specifically, just the general idea that has been floating around for too long that Martin Rucker was the one that got away. The idea that we missed out on the real deal is tiring.
Shaun O'Hara is the one that got away, if anything. No one really seems to care about that, though. Nor should they, as it's been seven years and we have a nice Center in place now.
Even so, though, O'Hara has been a starter since day one after leaving the Browns on a good team, and is a two-time Pro Bowler. Martin Rucker was only a year ago, but he's done absolutely nothing to suggest he's even better than Evan Moore. Moore might not have had that sexy pedigree, but he's actually produced something.
I liked Martin Rucker. I was disappointed when we cut ties with him so quickly. But everything that has happened so far suggests we were wrong, and the franchise was right. I wish Rucker luck. He's a former Brown and did nothing to make me dislike him in his time here, so I hope he goes on to be a Pro Bowler himself, but he is not worth fantasizing about.
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You know things are slow when Rucker, Alex Smith, Robert Royal and Gamble are subjects of such passionate debates.
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