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What about the New Black Panther Party guy Shabazz that openly hates white people? He's just being set up by Fox News too.




All the right-wingers are doing is race baiting.

They go out of their way to find African-Americans to make a story about. Why? Because the President is African-American. So, it is the priority of the right to bait whites against blacks.

"Blacks say this and White's can't..."

It is sickening what all of you are on the right are doing. Everything is about race. Time after time you go off about blacks making remarks about whites. You make stories out of nothing. Who was responsible for this story about Sherrod? A TEA bagger named Andrew Breitbart.





The most amusing thing about this, and there are many, is that you can't see how hypocritical what you just posted is...

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I believe that she was not the objective of the clip. This was more directed at the NAACP for their resolution against the Tea Party last week.

Her husband, Charles Sherrod is a well known civil rights figure, and according the the Atlanta Constitution Journal she may have some family history that would have contributed to her statement.

http://www.ajc.com/news/getting-to-shirley-sherrods-575702.html

Its pretty obvious that the Breitbart/Fox got the Obama Administration and USDA to overreact and now they will have to deal with the fallout.


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I believe that she was not the objective of the clip. This was more directed at the NAACP for their resolution against the Tea Party last week.




So, this TEA bagger intentionally went and ruined a woman's career because he hates the NAACP.

A week ago Sherron apparantly got a phone call from somebody talking about this tape too.

The guy is a criminal. This is blackmail. Blackmail and libel. Breitbart shoudl have the law after him for what he has done.

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You are a very reasonable guy so I will ask you how Fox is to blame since she was fired before they ever ran the story?

The two times I heard about this on Fox they mentioned (not the pundit) that she claimed the farmer verbally abused her. That might not have been the entire story but it did put her comment in more context. The fact is she should never have been fired for admitting to past biases (not racism).

I feel way too many people can't tell the difference between prejudice and racism. I am definitely prejudice when it comes to certain things. However, I do not believe I am superior or any group of people is inherently inferior.


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Its pretty obvious that the Breitbart/Fox got the Obama Administration and USDA to overreact and now they will have to deal with the fallout.





If the Obama Administration allowed themselves to be swayed by those two entities, they have bigger problems than just this blunder. Of course, a lot of us know that already.

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Yes, Charlie genuinely believes that the left has some moral highground and believes that they have black peoples best interest at heart because they keep extending unemployment, they keep expanding welfare, they keep bumping up minimum wage and they keey telling them that conservative white people are out to get them... and they should be very afraid.... and for the black women we want to come put a tracking device on your uterus...

What he isn't old enough or smart enough to understand is that what the democrats have done is create a captured subservient voting block that looks to the all powerful government for their own subsistence... which of course is great for the democrats but not so good for black people in general.


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Its pretty obvious that the Breitbart/Fox got the Obama Administration and USDA to overreact and now they will have to deal with the fallout.





If the Obama Administration allowed themselves to be swayed by those two entities, they have bigger problems than just this blunder. Of course, a lot of us know that already.




The "timeline" does not matter and does not relieve FOX of any guilt in this case.

The fact that Sec of Agriculture Vilsak attempted to get ahead of the story and asked Sherrod to resign before Fox news jumped all over another ACORN like hit job on Shirley Sherrod only shows that Vilsak had information about what Fox News was about to do.

Looking at how Fox News handled the story, Vilsak was exactly right about what Fox News was going to do to this woman and the fact that Fox News was then going to hang it around the neck of Obama, and label it RACIST OBAMA!

Fox news did use the "edited" video from Breitbart and did call for Sherrod's resignation and were in the middle of character assassination of her when Shirley Sherrod began to get aire time on CNN and was saying, this is not the entire video and does not tell the story. Then the very same WHITE FARMER AND HIS WIFE, that were supposed to be the offended party in Breitbart's video were put on the aire by CNN and they confirmed what Sherrod was attempting to point out, that she was not a "racist".

Did the White House, via Vilsak's attempt to get ahead of the story, "overreact"...YEP. But that is an entirely different story and has nothing to do with the fact that Fox News was pulling off another racial Hit job on the Obama admin.

The Timeline means nothing..it's a side issue.

Fox News did call for Sherrod's resignation, and the fact that "she may have" already resigned does not change the fact that Fox News, Breitbart and their RW ilk attempted a racial hit job on this woman, in an effort to hang it around Obama's neck.


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I'm just curious mac we all know the story is 20+ years old but this video was done just a few months ago.. and when this woman states that she withheld help from the white farmer and that she sent him to a white lawyer because he was "one of his own", essentially when she admitted she WAS a racist at one point..... the people in the room, the NAACP membership in the room in 2010, who hadn't heard "the rest of the story" yet, were laughing and applauding.. Care to address how you feel about that?


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This email is making the rounds again. It contains some over-generalization, but still bears repeating, I think:

Conservative vs Liberal

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he feels that no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic is conservative, they see themselves as proudly independent.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host (or news network), he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose (settle for) a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

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It is sickening what all of you are on the right are doing. Everything is about race. Time after time you go off about blacks making remarks about whites. You make stories out of nothing.



I'm going to make another story out of nothing...

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Candidate with history of feuds with local officials says she plans to sue
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Posted: July 21, 2010 |(172) Comments

Madison — State elections officials Wednesday narrowly rejected a Milwaukee Assembly candidate's attempt to run with the slogan "NOT the 'whiteman's bitch' " under her name on the ballot.

Ieshuh Griffin, an independent candidate with a history of feuds with local officials, said in response she would sue the state Government Accountability Board for infringing on her freedom of speech.

She is running to replace retiring Rep. Annette "Polly" Williams (D-Milwaukee).

"I'm not making a derogatory statement toward an ethnic group. I'm stating what I'm not," Griffin told board members. "It's my constitutional right to freedom of speech."

Unlike candidates from the established Democratic and Republican parties, independents are allowed a five-word statement of purpose on the ballot to explain to voters what their candidacy is about.

Shane Falk, a staff attorney for the Accountability Board, said that the board had the ability to restrict obscene or derogatory candidate statements from the ballot.

The board staff ruled that the statement was derogatory and should not be allowed. With one member absent, the board voted 3-2 in favor of reversing that ruling and allowing the wording. Under state law, however, four votes are needed for the board to act.

As a result, the staff decision stands, and Griffin will be on the ballot with "independent" by her name and nothing else. Falk noted that Griffin was still free to use the phrase in her campaign literature and any ads she might run.

The board, which administers state election laws, consists of six former judges. All of them are white.

This is not the first time that Griffin has been critical of a government action.

She said the same thing in May 2007 of a decision by a Milwaukee County circuit judge who found her sister, April Griffin, in contempt of court and jailed her for refusing to tell authorities where to find her son in a custody dispute case that received national attention.

April Griffin spent eight months in jail. After her release police acted on a tip and found her with the child and arrested her for interference of custody, recklessly endangering safety and resisting arrest.

She was convicted in that case and is appealing.

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Williams, who is retiring after 30 years in the Assembly, said she learned of the phrase Ieshuh Griffin wanted to use when her constituents mentioned seeing it on her nomination papers.

"That phrase kind of threw them," said Williams, who is African-American. "They were just kind of surprised. . . . I think most of the people would feel kind of offended by that."

Board member Thomas Barland, who voted to allow Griffin to make the statement, disagreed.

"She says a lot in five words," Barland said of Griffin. "It wasn't pornographic. It wasn't obscene, and I didn't interpret it as racial."

Donald Downs, a free speech expert at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said approving the ballot language would have made it difficult to reject a hypothetical case in which a white candidate said he was not beholden to the "black man." He said that the board was probably within its rights to restrict the speech because the ballot was, in a sense, "providing a platform" for Griffin.

"I don't think they're out of the ballpark," Downs said of the board. "Because of the special context, the government is going to have more of a say in what's said."

But Mike Maistelman, a Milwaukee elections attorney who represents Democratic candidates, said he thought Griffin might have a good shot at winning a lawsuit.

"It is a political statement that should be protected by the First Amendment," said Maistelman.

Griffin, who describes herself as a "30-ish" community activist, has been critical of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Thomas Donegan, who presided over her sister April's legal case. Ieshuh Griffin went to federal court in a failed attempt to challenge Donegan's authority to sit as judge.

Griffin also runs a YouTube channel about her sister's case.

She said she will appeal the Accountability Board's latest decision in federal court, representing herself.

Three Democrats and Griffin are running for the seat in the heavily African-American 10th Assembly District.

Williams said she is not endorsing and has told all four candidates she would offer advice if asked. She said she would have told Griffin not to use that phrase if she had been consulted.

"It's not something I would do and I would not recommend anyone running for public office to do," Williams said. "It's almost like you're not serious. I don't know what statement she's making."

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This email is making the rounds again. It contains some over-generalization, but still bears repeating, I think:

Conservative vs Liberal

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he feels that no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic is conservative, they see themselves as proudly independent.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host (or news network), he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose (settle for) a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.





If a conservative doesn't believe in abortion, they want it banned everwhere.
If a liberal doesn't believe in abortion, they're just don't get an abortion.

If a conservative doesn't believe in gay marriage, they want it outlawed.
If a liberal doesn't believe in gay marriage, they just don't marry someone gay.




I do get the humor in your post, and yes, it is painted with some VERY broad strokes... but that same painting works both ways.


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I think the list of issues referred to in the email I posted point towards an understanding of where one's rights end, which is where another's rights begin.

I don't really want to debate abortion or gay marriage, and I don't want to quibble over your reply, because your point is taken as valid ... but ... I believe the vast majority of Americans would say that a woman's right to choose ends when a fetus is viable outside the womb ... i.e., the point at which a 3rd party's rights are threatened - the child's rights. Regarding gay marriage and the banning of it: that is the result of the legal definition of "marriage" being the union of a man and a woman. No one's rights have been abrogated since gay men and women still have the right to marry the opposite sex. The also have the right to legally protected civil unions within their own sex. Nobody suggests the outlawing of homosexuality.

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I will start by saying that there aren't any conservatives within the ranks of the GOP, nor are there any liberals within the Democratic party. However, with that said...

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If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.




It was the GOP, and it's backers who consider themselves conservative who wanted to legislate marriage. They are the ones who sought government intervention.

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If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.




I don't see any difference between the sides on this issue. The so-called conservatives constantly push for their religious beliefs to be displayed openly and proudly within their government buildings and public property -- they very much want their government to proclaim their own religious faiths, just as their counterparts wish to remove any mention of it.

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If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.




Again, this attempts to paint liberals as those who want to legislate morality, while conservatives carry a live-and-let-live attitude ... entirely false.

It is often so-called conservatives leading the charge for government intervention in areas such as pornography or obscenity. They, too, are equally as guilty of attempting to infuse the government into deciding what it right and wrong for us.

I could go through every example, but I think I've made my point. And I'm not defending those who consider themselves liberal -- those folks are so far off base they're at the warning track. But this whole idea that conservatives have got it right and liberals are clueless ... very stupid thinking. This e-mail is a perfect example of how ignorant folks really are.

On the flip side, how completely ludicrous would it be to say something like --

A liberal sees a homeless man and buys him a sandwich.
A conservative walks past him and says 'get a job, bum'.

Just mindless, divisive talking points that serve no one except the folks in Washington, who are not liberal, nor conservative.

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I believe the vast majority of Americans would say that a woman's right to choose ends when a fetus is viable outside the womb ... i.e., the point at which a 3rd party's rights are threatened - the child's rights.




there is a large segment of the population that believes the child's rights begin at conception.

then, there is a huge debate further of when a child's life begins by others. some see it as heart function, some as brain activity, some as the 'if the child was born, could it survive', and finally there are still some who believe until the child is born it is not a child.

this is a very muddy topic and I cannot believe it has not been re-opened since Row v. Wade due to all the technological advances in birthing science since that decision.


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Point taken, but my point was that both sides are equally guilty of trying to legislate out of existence the completely legal things that others do that they don't agree with. The whole "it flies in the face of my beliefs and offends me, so rather than me just accepting that not everyone thinks like me, I'm going to get the law changed".


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I stated in my original post that there were over-generalizations, and I conceded to Purp that there were examples from both sides, although I didn't really agree with his examples being consistent.

Regarding your points:

* it was Bill Clinton that signed the defense of marriage legislation.

* defining "marriage" is not anti-gay.

* the country was founded by people of Faith; it was a guiding principle of their work that cannot be denied now without tearing down the Constitution.

* liberals don't want to legislate morality; they want to prohibit behavior that they disagree with, and enforce behavior they support. Seatbelt laws, cigarette taxes, child carseats, remote monitoring of private home's thermostats etc, etc, etc, are hardly ever the work of conservatives.

* and finally:

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how completely ludicrous would it be to say something like --

A liberal sees a homeless man and buys him a sandwich.




Finally, we agree ... it is utterly and completely ludicrous ... a liberal would pass laws raising taxes, so that I would have to buy him a sandwich every day, for the rest of his life.

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On the flip side, how completely ludicrous would it be to say something like --

A liberal sees a homeless man and buys him a sandwich.
A conservative walks past him and says 'get a job, bum'.




That is ludicrous.. the liberal would make ME buy the homeless man a sandwich while proclaiming their own righteousness.


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What I was trying to say was that, at the very least, we can agree that late term abortion should be outlawed. I think polls have show that over 80% agree with that. Gray areas exist in the early part of the pregnancy, but I'm pretty sure most of us can agree at that point regarding the 3rd trimester, with exceptions regarding the life of the mother.

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defining "marriage" is not anti-gay.




re-defining marriage for the intent of denying marriage to gay people IS



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it was a guiding principle of their work that cannot be denied now without tearing down the Constitution.




I could not disagree more.




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they want to prohibit behavior that they disagree with,




Make sure you're also looking in a mirror when you recite this


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I agree that both sides are guilty to a degree, but disagree that it is anywhere near "equal".

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I have to completely agree with that.... but that doesn't make it ok for either one to do it at all.



This country would be a hell of a lot better place if people spent more time worrying more about their own lives than trying to point out the perceived failings of others.... but that just isn't as interesting, and it would require us to be honest about ourselves, and that's something that very few openly welcome. It's far easier to tear down others to make ourselves feel better than it is to accept that perhaps the change needs to happen with ourselves. Ego & Pride.


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* it was Bill Clinton that signed the defense of marriage legislation.




Though he wasn't a conservative ... he's the most conservative president we've had in a very, very long time ... far more so than either Bush or Reagan.

But again ... no president is really conservative or liberal.

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And conservatives are any different in the slightest?

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On the flip side, how completely ludicrous would it be to say something like --

A liberal sees a homeless man and buys him a sandwich.
A conservative walks past him and says 'get a job, bum'.




That is ludicrous.. the liberal would make ME buy the homeless man a sandwich while proclaiming their own righteousness.





That made me laugh.


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On the flip side, how completely ludicrous would it be to say something like --

A liberal sees a homeless man and buys him a sandwich.
A conservative walks past him and says 'get a job, bum'.




That is ludicrous.. the liberal would make ME buy the homeless man a sandwich while proclaiming their own righteousness.





That made me laugh.





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Would that be a ham sandwich?


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Depends if it was a vegetarian liberal.

Didn't you get the email?

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And conservatives are any different in the slightest?




Just to wrap up and come full circle with KOB's thread, and with regards to why I posted the "stupid and divisive" email ...


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If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host (or news network), he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.





If any conservatives have been out there howling for Ed Schultz, Al Franken (when he was on air), Jeanine Garafalo, Randi Rhoades, Keith Olbermann, MSNBC, et al, to be silenced through legislation, I haven't heard it.

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WHAT IS YOUR POINT??????




My original post.

FAUX is nothing but a propaganda channel for the ultra-right.

On FAUX Obama is continually paired with "antichrist","dictator","Hitler" etc...

FAUX inspires violence against Obama.




Your diatribes on this board inspires urges.


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I nominate this post for biggest reach of the year.


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Just when you thought the RW could not get any more nuts than they have shown themselves to be during this Sherrod situation...I find this...


Right-wing conspiracy: Sherrod controversy "orchestrated" by the White House to "smear Breitbart"


As Andrew Breitbart's Shirley Sherrod smear dissolved, rather than blame Breitbart for posting the deceptive clip of her speech, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and Rush Limbaugh ludicrously began speculating that he and the conservative media could have been the victim of a "set-up" that had been "orchestrated" by the White House.

Conservative media: Sherrod controversy a "set-up" to "smear Breitbart," Fox News

Beck: Did White House "plot" Sherrod story to "destroy the credibility of Fox News"?

On the July 21 edition of his radio show, Beck linked the Sherrod story to "the President wanting to disgrace Fox News and separate everybody from Fox News." Beck asked, "is there a possibility that anybody involved is either going to use this emergency, or plotted this as a way to destroy the credibility of Fox News?"

Beck went on to claim that in the future, when Fox runs a story the administration doesn't like, the White House can say that "they take things out of context all the time." Beck asked, "Is that a possibility? That's the only one so far that seems to make real sense to me."

On his radio show the next day, Beck further suggested that if the Sherrod incident "wasn't a set up -- I have to tell you -- it is certainly Rahm Emanuel's don't let a good crisis go to waste."

Beck: "Maybe I'm being too conspiratorial" but "was this a diversion?" Also on the July 21 edition of his radio show, Beck questioned whether the Sherrod story was a "diversion" created by the Obama administration. Beck asked, "Did they do something else with the other hand yesterday that we're not paying attention to?"

From the broadcast: BECK: Now maybe I'm being, in this case, maybe I'm being too conspiratorial. Maybe we're just dealing with keystone cops at the White House. Maybe it was that somebody just didn't have the context. But it doesn't make sense.

PAT GRAY (CO-HOST): Isn't it fascinating too how -- how long it took Van Jones? I mean, he's a communist. He's a revolutionary. He's--

BECK: That's why something's wrong.

GRAY: He's a radical.

BECK: Are we supposed -- Were they -- did they do something else with the other hand yesterday that we're not paying attention to? Was this a diversion?

GRAY: Maybe

BECK: Was - this doesn't make any sense. Was this just -- was this sloppy?

Savage: "I'm beginning to believe that this entire affair was orchestrated by the government itself to smear Breitbart." On the July 21 edition of his radio show, Michael Savage suggested that he was "beginning to believe that this entire affair was orchestrated by the government itself to smear Breitbart and the Tea Party movement." He continued by stating that the scandal "is part of the dirty tricks campaign that the Democrats are famous for" and suggested that the Democrats had "released these tapes -- these edited tapes -- of the black bureaucrat through a third party or a fourth party, whispering 'oh, do we have something for you Mr. Breitbart.' "

Limbaugh: "For all I know, the White House orchestrated this whole thing." On the July 22 edition of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh derided the narrative of the Sherrod story in the media. He suggested that "[n]ow the template is, do you deserve a phone call from the President? The White House wanted you fired. The White House didn't listen. The White House took it out of con -- The White House is afraid of Fox News." Limbaugh continued by claiming, "For all I know, the White House orchestrated this whole thing."

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Sorry, bud - you blow my mind almost daily with your crap - but this one might take the cake.

You constantly berate Beck for being an imbecile, an instigator.....whatever.

But now you want to use him? You want to cite what he said as proof of something?

You are seriously lacking in cognitive skills. You are so far out there you not only aren't in left field, you aren't in the parking lot, and dude, you aren't even in the state the game is being played in.

Honestly. When you post something, do you really think people don't remember your other posts? I mean, it's so inane it's laughable - you that is.

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You constantly berate Beck for being an imbecile, an instigator.....whatever.

But now you want to use him? You want to cite what he said as proof of something?




I don't think that's what he's doing ...

I think he's using his typical article posting style to show that now the controversy has left egg on the face of right-wing commentators, they're blaming the Obama administration for orchestrating it ... which is really embarrassingly stupid.

However ... I could care less about this story. It's a diversion.

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You are a very reasonable guy so I will ask you how Fox is to blame since she was fired before they ever ran the story?

The two times I heard about this on Fox they mentioned (not the pundit) that she claimed the farmer verbally abused her. That might not have been the entire story but it did put her comment in more context. The fact is she should never have been fired for admitting to past biases (not racism).
I feel way too many people can't tell the difference between prejudice and racism. I am definitely prejudice when it comes to certain things. However, I do not believe I am superior or any group of people is inherently inferior.




I think as much as the White House tries to ignore Fox, they can't. Fox has gotten them several times,Gates, ACORN, Van Jones, and the New Black Panthers of most recent. So when Fox picked up the story, they feared a never ending coverage and took action before before the truth was known. Now they have a mess to wallow in as a "teachable" moment.

As a subject matter, it is a no win discussion point, generally developed by impression rather than facts. In this case, the subject was someone who has the ability to stand up and face down the initial criticism and use the full video to exhonerate her.

I think there would be serveral lawyers interested in a libel case against Breitbart.

I can't comment about the verbal abuse statement, the only thing that I know is that the farmer stated that they had a good relationship, after an obviously rocky start, and she was sucessful in helping him.


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What he isn't old enough or smart enough to understand is that what the democrats have done is create a captured subservient voting block that looks to the all powerful government for their own subsistence... which of course is great for the democrats but not so good for black people in general.




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Man, where do you get this stuff?

I know, the Teabagger parties.

Helping people is forcing them into bondage,

Well, two can play that game.

Right-Wing Rules in Life:

"Let them Die"

A poor man needs medical attention. What does the Christian Conservative do? Let them die. Man, who would have thought that.

Man is lost in the desert. Needs water desperately, dying. Conservative comes by with water. Man asks for water. Conservative says, what you got in your wallet?

Homeless man on the street is begging for change hasn't eaten in days. Conservative comes by and says "Get a job you bum".

Yet, you sit here and claim you are "Moral"?

There is nothing wrong with lending a helping hand to people in need. Helping people is not bondage. Helping people is not slavery. I suggest you teabaggers actually go and see what real slavery is.

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You constantly berate Beck for being an imbecile, an instigator.....whatever.

But now you want to use him? You want to cite what he said as proof of something?





arch...your defense of Glenn Beck tells me a lot about you and just where you get your info from...

Like I said, if anyone questioned whether or not the RW talkie heads were nuts...they know now that these folks belong on the funny farm.

arch...tell us, was this entire Shirley Sherrod thing planned by the White House..did "the White House orchestrated this whole thing?"




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Honestly. When you post something, do you really think people don't remember your other posts?




arch...try to focus now...we are talking about "THIS" post..

Think..try real hard...can stay on message...focusing on the article I last posted in this thread..

...if you defend Beck, Savage, Limbaugh and what they said in this article...you are placing yourself in the same padded room they belong in.

arch...Do you agree with Limbaugh, Beck and Savage, that it was the White House that "the White House orchestrated this whole thing?"



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What's the big deal? Darwinism at work, pal. Thin the herd. After all that is what you believe, right? You do believe in evolution, yes? Survival of the fittest, yes? Adaptation, yes? What are you complaining about?

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