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You and the others who thought that way weren't bright enough to remember your plays or think on your feet, and weren't on the field while we were.
I'm gonna stop this nonsense after this because talking to you about it is like hitting my head against a brick wall..
No need to insult people by the way.. Just because we don't agree..
But there is something you should know,, the best players as well as the best teammates have carried someones pads.. and they didn't forget plays, they didn't screw up.. they were or are at the top of thier game.
so your argument is pretty much worthless. and WAYYYYY off the mark...
believe what you want, but you won't ever convince me your right,,
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Someone....a defensive player maybe, is going to shove him in to a locker and make him squeal like a pig before he gets out.
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Rolando McClain has signed with Oakland, he was picked 8th. linkRaiders Sign First-Round Pick Rolando McClain Raiders sign first-round pick Rolando McClain hours before start of first practice By JOSH DUBOW The Associated Press NAPA, Calif. The Oakland Raiders have signed first-round pick Rolando McClain hours before the start of their first training camp practice. The team announced the deal with the middle linebacker late Wednesday night. The Raiders will hold their first training camp practice on Thursday morning. McClain is just the third first-round pick to sign a contract and at No. 8 the highest overall pick to do so. The Dallas Cowboys signed No. 24 pick Dez Bryant last week and the New England Patriots signed No. 27 pick Devin McCourty on Wednesday morning. The Raiders traditionally have done a good job getting their top picks into camp on time with the exception of JaMarcus Russell's lengthy holdout in 2007 that lasted until the start of the regular season.
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Really good news for us because he was the pick right after Haden. McClain's deal kinda sets the backdrop for the deal for Haden. Very good to see.
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While this is definitely a step in the right direction, Haden may be a little more difficult because of him being a CB as compared to a LB. But, this should help things out.
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I wonder if Bryant is an English Major .....   http://www.cleveland.com/budshaw/index.ssf/2010/07/for_the_cavaliers_playing_fast.htmlHE SAID IT "I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant, explaining why he refused to carry teammate Roy Williams' shoulder pads off the practice field. Is that ...... a triple negative? 
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He's the kind of idiot that next year will be the first Cowboy to start handing his pads and lunch orders to the rookies.
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He's trouble.. He's trouble in the making.
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The contract statuses of all 32 first-round picks in the 2010 NFL
1. Sam Bradford QB St. Louis Unsigned
2. Ndamukong Suh DT Detroit Unsigned
3. Gerald McCoy DT Tampa Bay Unsigned
4. Trent Williams OT Washington Unsigned
5. Eric Berry SS Kansas City Unsigned
6. Russell Okung OT Seattle Unsigned
7. Joe Haden CB Cleveland Unsigned
8. Rolando McClain LB Oakland Signed Terms undisclosed.
9. C.J. Spiller RB Buffalo Unsigned
10. Tyson Alualu DE Jacksonville Unsigned
11. Anthony Davis OT San Francisco Unsigned
12. Ryan Mathews RB San Diego Unsigned
13. Brandon Graham DE Philadelphia Unsigned
14. Earl Thomas SS Seattle Unsigned
15. Jason Pierre-Paul DE N.Y. Giants Unsigned
16. Derrick Morgan DE Tennessee Unsigned
17. Mike Iupati G San Francisco Unsigned
18. Maurkice Pouncey C Pittsburgh Unsigned
19. Sean Witherspoon LB Atlanta Unsigned
20. Kareem Jackson CB Houston Unsigned
21. Jermaine Gresham TE Cincinnati Unsigned
22. Demaryius Thomas WR Denver Unsigned
23. Bryan Bulaga OT Green Bay Unsigned
24. Dez Bryant WR Dallas Signed Five years, $11.8 million ($8.3M guaranteed)
25. Tim Tebow QB Denver Unsigned
26. Dan Williams DT Arizona Unsigned
27. Devin McCourty CB New England Signed Five years, $13.2 million ($7.825 guaranteed)
28. Jared Odrick DT Miami Unsigned
29. Kyle Wilson CB N.Y. Jets Unsigned
30. Jahvid Best RB Detroit Unsigned
31. Jerry Hughes DE Indianapolis Unsigned
32. Patrick Robinson CB New Orleans Unsigned
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"I didn't know nothing about no tradition,"
Translation: He knew something about no tradition. 
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Or, perhaps more accurately:
He knows nothing of tradition.
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He's trouble.. He's trouble in the making.
thats why i was hoping the browns never even considered him, which apparently they didnt-time will tell...
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Rolando McClain has signed with Oakland, he was picked 8th.
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Raiders | Rolando McClain cashes in
Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:03 -0400
Oakland Raiders rookie LB Rolando McClain received a five-year, $40 million deal, reports ESPN's Adam Schefter. $23 million of the deal was guaranteed money.
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"I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant, explaining why he refused to carry teammate Roy Williams' shoulder pads off the practice field.
Just imagine how Dez conducted himself in team interviews before the draft.
It makes you wonder how some of these kids were able to get through college using that kind of grammer.
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"I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant, explaining why he refused to carry teammate Roy Williams' shoulder pads off the practice field.
Just imagine how Dez conducted himself in team interviews before the draft.
It makes you wonder how some of these kids were able to get through college using that kind of grammer.
Add to that that he has no idea about the tradition of rookie hazing.. OH yeah,, this is gonna be fun to watch.. TO part daux....
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"I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant, explaining why he refused to carry teammate Roy Williams' shoulder pads off the practice field.
Just imagine how Dez conducted himself in team interviews before the draft.
It makes you wonder how some of these kids were able to get through college using that kind of grammer.
to be fair to Oklahoma State, Dez did not get through college.
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But he did attend (and presumably passed) classes for 3 years.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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But he did attend (and presumably passed) classes for 3 years.
reports were he stopped attending classes once the NCAA blocked his appeal to get back on the team.
so, let's give him 2 years and hope that none of those were an English class.
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Yes... he attended school at a football factory, as a premier player on an athletic scholarship. Do ya need the rest spelled out? 
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He ain't not learned no better how to talk than me did in 6th grade.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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But he did attend (and presumably passed) classes for 3 years.
Not to mention High School..
The guy is a heck of an athlete.. I don't think anyone questions that... But this young man has all the markings of another TO and he is acting like it before he actually does anything on the field.. This is trouble... with a capital T
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you give him too much credit. my 4yo talks with better grammar 
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Rolando McClain has signed with Oakland, he was picked 8th.
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Raiders | Rolando McClain cashes in
Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:03 -0400
Oakland Raiders rookie LB Rolando McClain received a five-year, $40 million deal, reports ESPN's Adam Schefter. $23 million of the deal was guaranteed money.
Good lord that is ridiculous money.
It could lead to a holdout with Haden considering he is going to want more than that since he was drafted one slot higher and is a CB.
The NFL really needs a rookie salary cap, this is getting out of control.
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Rolando McClain has signed with Oakland, he was picked 8th.
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Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:33:03 -0400
Oakland Raiders rookie LB Rolando McClain received a five-year, $40 million deal, reports ESPN's Adam Schefter. $23 million of the deal was guaranteed money.
Good lord that is ridiculous money.
It could lead to a holdout with Haden considering he is going to want more than that since he was drafted one slot higher and is a CB.
The NFL really needs a rookie salary cap, this is getting out of control.
I was thinking the same thing
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That money is on par with what we gave Tim Couch as a 1st Overall.
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Yeah ... and in 1999, gas was around $1.20 per gallon, a gallon of milk was about $1.70, and a Grand Cherokee Limited 4X4, loaded with leather and damn near every option had an MSRP of about $35,000.
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Uhhhh.. .yeah.
And it's still $40 million.
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you give him too much credit. my 4yo talks with better grammar
bet he learned his grammer from Mick Jagger.. "I can't get no... I can't get no... I can't get no.... Satisfaction"
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If we paid Couch $40 million in 1999, and it's now 11 years later, and the no. 8 pick is getting that $40 million, does that mean salaries are relative at the pace of 0.63 draft pick spots per year?
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However you slice it, basically it means the raiders have SCREWED us over the past two drafts. They single handedly cost us milions.
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Dolphins | Jared Odrick signed
Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:56:11 -0400
The Miami Dolphins have signed first-round draft choice DL Jared Odrick to a five-year deal, reports Omar Kelly, of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Financial terms were not disclosed.
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Falcons | Sean Weatherspoon agrees to terms
Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:14:01 -0400
The Atlanta Falcons have agreed to terms with first-round draft choice LB Sean Weatherspoon on a five-year deal, sources told Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com. Financial terms were not disclosed.
1. Sam Bradford QB St. Louis Unsigned
2. Ndamukong Suh DT Detroit Unsigned
3. Gerald McCoy DT Tampa Bay Unsigned
4. Trent Williams OT Washington Unsigned
5. Eric Berry SS Kansas City Unsigned
6. Russell Okung OT Seattle Unsigned
7. Joe Haden CB Cleveland Unsigned
8. Rolando McClain LB Oakland Signed Five Years, $40 million ($23 million guaranteed)
9. C.J. Spiller RB Buffalo Unsigned
10. Tyson Alualu DE Jacksonville Unsigned
11. Anthony Davis OT San Francisco Unsigned
12. Ryan Mathews RB San Diego Unsigned
13. Brandon Graham DE Philadelphia Unsigned
14. Earl Thomas SS Seattle Unsigned
15. Jason Pierre-Paul DE N.Y. Giants Unsigned
16. Derrick Morgan DE Tennessee Unsigned
17. Mike Iupati G San Francisco Unsigned
18. Maurkice Pouncey C Pittsburgh Unsigned
19. Sean Witherspoon LB Atlanta Signed, 5 years, terms undisclosed
20. Kareem Jackson CB Houston Unsigned
21. Jermaine Gresham TE Cincinnati Unsigned
22. Demaryius Thomas WR Denver Unsigned
23. Bryan Bulaga OT Green Bay Unsigned
24. Dez Bryant WR Dallas Signed Five years, $11.8 million ($8.3M guaranteed)
25. Tim Tebow QB Denver Unsigned
26. Dan Williams DT Arizona Unsigned
27. Devin McCourty CB New England Signed Five years, $13.2 million ($7.825 guaranteed)
28. Jared Odrick DT Miami Signed Terms Undisclosed
29. Kyle Wilson CB N.Y. Jets Unsigned
30. Jahvid Best RB Detroit Unsigned
31. Jerry Hughes DE Indianapolis Unsigned
32. Patrick Robinson CB New Orleans Unsigned
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The dominoes are falling. We need those first few picks of the round to start signing.
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Raiders | Rolando McClain cashes in
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Oakland Raiders rookie LB Rolando McClain received a five-year, $40 million deal, reports ESPN's Adam Schefter. $23 million of the deal was guaranteed money.
Man that's a lot of dough. The guaranteed money is just mind boggling..... to pay someone who has never played a down that kind of money. There was a time not long ago when guaranteed money was unheard of.
So at least Hayden now has a reference point.
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Broncos | Tim Tebow contract details
Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:48:27 -0400
Denver Broncos rookie QB Tim Tebow received a five-year, $33 million deal with $8.7 million guaranteed reports Michael Lombardi, of The NFL Network.
1. Sam Bradford QB St. Louis Unsigned
2. Ndamukong Suh DT Detroit Unsigned
3. Gerald McCoy DT Tampa Bay Unsigned
4. Trent Williams OT Washington Unsigned
5. Eric Berry SS Kansas City Unsigned
6. Russell Okung OT Seattle Unsigned
7. Joe Haden CB Cleveland Unsigned
8. Rolando McClain LB Oakland Signed Five Years, $40 million ($23 million guaranteed)
9. C.J. Spiller RB Buffalo Unsigned
10. Tyson Alualu DE Jacksonville Unsigned
11. Anthony Davis OT San Francisco Unsigned
12. Ryan Mathews RB San Diego Unsigned
13. Brandon Graham DE Philadelphia Unsigned
14. Earl Thomas SS Seattle Unsigned
15. Jason Pierre-Paul DE N.Y. Giants Unsigned
16. Derrick Morgan DE Tennessee Unsigned
17. Mike Iupati G San Francisco Unsigned
18. Maurkice Pouncey C Pittsburgh Unsigned
19. Sean Witherspoon LB Atlanta Signed, 5 years, terms undisclosed
20. Kareem Jackson CB Houston Unsigned
21. Jermaine Gresham TE Cincinnati Unsigned
22. Demaryius Thomas WR Denver Unsigned
23. Bryan Bulaga OT Green Bay Unsigned
24. Dez Bryant WR Dallas Signed Five years, $11.8 million ($8.3M guaranteed)
25. Tim Tebow QB Denver Signed, Five Years, $33 million ($8.7 million guaranteed)
26. Dan Williams DT Arizona Unsigned
27. Devin McCourty CB New England Signed Five years, $13.2 million ($7.825 guaranteed)
28. Jared Odrick DT Miami Signed Terms Undisclosed
29. Kyle Wilson CB N.Y. Jets Unsigned
30. Jahvid Best RB Detroit Unsigned
31. Jerry Hughes DE Indianapolis Unsigned
32. Patrick Robinson CB New Orleans Unsigned
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didn't we draft Quinn at about 21 or 22.. he came nowhere near the Tebow deal did he? man,, we need a ROCK SOLID rookie salary structure...
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Tim Tebow will not make $33 million Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 29, 2010 7:44 PM ET Turning water into wine might be easier than turning Tim Tebow's five-year contract into a $33 million deal. The Broncos signed the No. 25 overall pick to a contract with a base package of $11.25 million, and an "absolute maximum" of $33 million. To get close to all that money, a source with knowledge of the situation said Tebow will "have to make Peyton Manning look like a fool." Tebow's incentives are broken down into playing time and performance escalators. If Tebow can reach every playing time trigger and become the consistent starting quarterback (possibly soon), he could make up to $24 million over five years. Another $9 million is tied up in escalators for difficult goals like Pro Bowls, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. Our understanding is that Tebow's camp was willing to take $11.25 million as the base salary because they expect he will become the starting quarterback and that number will become moot. Now all Tebow has to do is prove Josh McDaniels right, and prove just about everyone else wrong. pft
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