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Well, that's what I hope happens.
However....there is that weird concern of "authority" here. If Heckert comes in and cuts a Mangini-picked 2nd rounder....that's kind of a slap in the face to EM's evaluation skills. It's sort of publicly stating EM's 2009 draft was a trainwreck (even though we all know it was) and undermines their confidence in him, ya know?
EM will be asked questions by the media and have to explain why DV didn't work out like he hoped, blah blah blah.
It just sort of puts EM in a tough spot, politically, so to speak.
BUT...having said all that. EM is a grown man and should be able to handle it. This is the NFL, and the business of the NFL is winning games. I have yet to see anything from DV that shows me he can make a game-changing difference that you hope to see out of a 2nd round pick.
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We have, we used it against Pittsburgh in the game we won last year.
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Is there any team out there that NEEDS D'Qell and can give us something we can use this year in return?
First team that comes to mind is the Raiders... but I'm not sure what they have that we could use.
I would think that the Chiefs would like him as well. Putting him next to Derrick Johnson in the middle would be good for them... but I don't know that they have a tweener type to send back our way.
I'd be perfectly happy to take a 2011 2nd round pick off their hands for him, however.
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It's sort of publicly stating EM's 2009 draft was a trainwreck (even though we all know it was)
Round 1 (21st overall): C Alex Mack, California
Already a Top 5 Center in the league.
Round 2 (36): WR Brian Robiskie, Ohio State
Jury's still out.
Round 2 (50): WR Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia
Showing potential as a #1 if even a Solid #2 WR.
Round 2 (52): OLB David Veikune, Hawaii
Jury hasn't even started deliberating yet...
Round 4 (104): LB Kaluka Maiava, USC
Solid on STs, needs work as an LBer
Round 6 (177): DB Don Carey, Norfolk State
Round 6 (191): DB Coye Francies, San Jose State
Round 6 (195): RB James Davis, Clemson
I think this is one of those Terrel Davis/Tom Brady type picks, he dropped to the 6th cause of injury, but had the talent at Clemson, and has shown in spots that he can do it at this level, just needs the shot... If not here, somewhere else...
Add to the fact we got Kenyon Coleman, Brett Ratliff, and Abram Elam.. Not world beaters, but they filled positions of need at the time.
Mangini actually worked the trade route to build up the second half of the draft, seeing as Savage had traded most of those picks away the year before...
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However....there is that weird concern of "authority" here. If Heckert comes in and cuts a Mangini-picked 2nd rounder....that's kind of a slap in the face to EM's evaluation skills.
I don't really think it is.. Everyone in that business knows that you can pick a first rounder and have him flop but you get one in the 6th round, and he turns out to be Tom Brady 
I don't think they take it personal... Just like us, they all know it's a crap shoot.. no guarantees..
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EM will be asked questions by the media and have to explain why DV didn't work out like he hoped, blah blah blah.
The short and honest answer is, "he wasn't what we thought he was". Again, there isn't really any shame associated with a bad pick.. it happens to the best in the league...they all have thier Ryan Leaf...
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I have yet to see anything from DV that shows me he can make a game-changing difference that you hope to see out of a 2nd round pick.
Ha ha,, neither have I.. but then again, we are talking about a guy switching positions and a guy that hasn't seen the start of his second year. I'll reserve judgement until I see what he's got.
For sure, if he doesn't make it out on the field very often, then that means that EM thinks he's not a living up to his draft status either...
We'll see.... these kids grow at thier own pace.. maybe this is the year he hits his stride.. maybe not.. then the decision is, do we wait any longer...
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We have, we used it against Pittsburgh in the game we won last year.
1 + 6 + 5 = 12
Is that how we beat Pittsburgh ??
12 men on the field ??
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We have, we used it against Pittsburgh in the game we won last year.
1 + 6 + 5 = 12
Is that how we beat Pittsburgh ??
12 men on the field ??
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You have 12 fingers?  I think we begin to see the problem ......  Back to Haynesworth ..... the guy signed an astronomical contract. He then blew off the team in many of the off-season activities. He could have given a madical explanation and I'm sure that it would have been fine. This whole mess doesn't benefit the team at all. Bottom line .... he acted like a little kid taking his ball home because he didn't want to play the game the way it was now going to be played. Then he whined about damn near every aspect of being a $100 million football player. Now he comes up with a medical issue. pardon me if I am just a wee bit skeptical.
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I have a feeling Veikune makes the team. Mangini won't be willing to give up on a second round pick so quickly despite what all of us think about him so far. It'll be an ego/stubborn thing.
That might put Maiava out.
I think it'll all depend on how much say Holmgren has on the final roster. He has no ties to DV.
I might agree with your thoughts on Veikune, problem is Heckert has the final say as far as the 53 man roster is concerned and if he doesn't feel that Veikune is worth keeping, then he won't.
These days it is hard to keep projects around for more than a couple of years.
That's why the teams who draft well, will not even consider a project player with a 2nd round pick.
If you do and he doesn't work out they should not add to the mistake for the sake of pride by keeping him around, so now you compound your original mistake......he has two more games to show he is making progress and will be able to contribute at the very least on ST.
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also, at this point I would hope Mangini doesn't care about what round a guy was picked in.
example: GB picked Brohm in round2 and Flynn in round6 a couple years ago. Flynn outperformed Brohm in practice and preseason, so they cut Brohm and kept Flynn.
Same situation could happen here with Veikune and Maiava. If Maiava gets cut over Veikune it better be because of on-field performance this pre-season (not just games).
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also, at this point I would hope Mangini doesn't care about what round a guy was picked in.
example: GB picked Brohm in round2 and Flynn in round6 a couple years ago. Flynn outperformed Brohm in practice and preseason, so they cut Brohm and kept Flynn.
Same situation could happen here with Veikune and Maiava. If Maiava gets cut over Veikune it better be because of on-field performance this pre-season (not just games).
I would hope that would be the case. Guaranteed $ aside.
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also, at this point I would hope Mangini doesn't care about what round a guy was picked in.
example: GB picked Brohm in round2 and Flynn in round6 a couple years ago. Flynn outperformed Brohm in practice and preseason, so they cut Brohm and kept Flynn.
Yet Genius kept Ratelouie(Ratliff) over Bartell who outperformed him in preseason last year ..I don't believe Genius can evaluate talent as much as U guys like to think he does.
Maiava IMO is another N'Quill in the wings ..now for me if Viekune can progress enough to get Barton off the field,thats a plus for me..
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Why didn't you just ask for players who are likely not to make the team or are likely to make the team that ould be a suprise to those who will read this.
I could see Brian Robiskie wr, and James Davis rb, both getting cut and that would be a surprise. I could see them both making the team also.
I could see a reason to cut Eric Steinbach og, and Robert Royal te, and that would be a surprise to alot of people.
I think it would be a surprise if Haggerty, Mitchell, and Steptoe, all made the team, but I could see it happening.
I could see a case where 1 of the 3 db's drafted this year doesn't do enough to make the team, even though they were such draft picks that it would be a surprise.
I'm pretty confident this team is better with St Clair than without him even if he doesn't start behind Pashos and Thomas, because he is the only other reliable tackle on the outside and he, St Clair, can play outside of the others for a 6 man line.
The team is better with St Clair but that hasn't stopped them from cutting someone before.
I think Engram defintly makes this team, He is the 3rd best receiver behind Mo Mass and Stuckey.
I think they will use more of "not receivers" as receivers this year, for instance
Evan Moore, not a receiver
Josh Cribbs, not a receiver
Jerome Harrison, not a receiver
These will line up as receivers, they are going to have to just to get the best players on the field.
This reminds me of a George Costanza Quote in My favorite Sienfeld when he said every impulse I have ever had has been completely wrong so I must go with the opposite of this post.
Seeing Robiskie and Davis getting cut is well the opposite of reality.
.Steinbach getting cut is oler limits opposite of reality.
Royal should get cut( he did make a good catch vs the Rams but so what)
. then to Name the worthless trio of Steptoe, Mitchell and haggerty as making the team...they will be LUCKY to make the practice squad.
.We have enough dead wieght at DB that our draft picks ALL make it.
> the backups on Oline look so bad that St. Clair who is bad is someone we just have to bite the bullet and keep, now you see why the bears dumped him when he was hailed last year as a great mangini pick up.
You did finish with a florish and put a few sentences I agreed with...
Thanks for the post and my apologies for making sport of it, we are all browns fans.
Now I think Viekune, Vatrone, both rookie WRs, Eclair( St, Clair), Both aging Jet lbers( mangini made a reference to one as being a good "coach" and I have not seen him on the field...not a good sign. There are some stiffs on the dline that can be trimmed as well...Oh and ratcliff(teachers pet) is gone. I have seen little from Gocong yet less from the guy recovering from the neck injury( he has No speed)..he looks to be a casualty as well. We got some serious bums on the oline as backups so it will not be hard to trim the fat, its just there is no meat left so I hope porkchop is ready.
I think we will be lucky at other teams Oline cuts..and Abram Elam has shown NOTHING. I really regret we cut our safety from last year as he starts for the Jets.
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It's sort of publicly stating EM's 2009 draft was a trainwreck (even though we all know it was)
Round 1 (21st overall): C Alex Mack, California
Already a Top 5 Center in the league.
Round 2 (36): WR Brian Robiskie, Ohio State
Jury's still out.
Round 2 (50): WR Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia
Showing potential as a #1 if even a Solid #2 WR.
Round 2 (52): OLB David Veikune, Hawaii
Jury hasn't even started deliberating yet...
Round 4 (104): LB Kaluka Maiava, USC
Solid on STs, needs work as an LBer
Round 6 (177): DB Don Carey, Norfolk State
Round 6 (191): DB Coye Francies, San Jose State
Round 6 (195): RB James Davis, Clemson
I think this is one of those Terrel Davis/Tom Brady type picks, he dropped to the 6th cause of injury, but had the talent at Clemson, and has shown in spots that he can do it at this level, just needs the shot... If not here, somewhere else...
Add to the fact we got Kenyon Coleman, Brett Ratliff, and Abram Elam.. Not world beaters, but they filled positions of need at the time.
Mangini actually worked the trade route to build up the second half of the draft, seeing as Savage had traded most of those picks away the year before...
Mangini Kokinis were a train wreck as drafters and traders. Cmon mack was a great pick yet the jets secured a franchise QB with one of the most one sided deals ever to get such a person. gave up a late first and Momass and a group of jet cast offs and mediocrites. Mack is the ONLY one in that group that shows excellence.
Robiskie, taken WAYYYYYYYY to early, sorry i would take maluaga at Cinci any day of the week. Robiskie is SLOW. It remains to be seen if he can even be a #3 wr. I think Stucky is far better.
Momass, shown some glimpses but NOT a #1, hopefully can be a decent steady WR and show reliable hands.
Davis Veikune, uhm we gave up Pro Bowl TE Winslow and got a DUD. Viekune looks LOST. still does and may be lucky to make the practice squad. let him beef up and try out as a DE because he is totally LOST as an IL. I think a wasted pick. I hope i am wrong but the guy just looks lost. I do not want to cut other people showing real developement and promise to save this guy.
Round 6 picks gone or soon to be.
Davis has shown real promise and pop. i would keep him for a rster spot and dump veikune any day of the week.
What did we get for Edwards, a stiffe TE (Estandia, a 3pick, and Stucky) and the #3 we rolled into a trade. We got NOTHING for Winslow and Next to Nothing for Edwards and a slew of Mediocrities and Mack for a Franchise QB.
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This is still to be determined.
Sanchez had almost identical stats to the 2 headed Quinn/Anderson monster of a year ago.
He had 1 more TD, 3 more INT, about the same yards, and about the same completion %.
He was a rookie .... and will probably develop .... but there are no guarantees. Last year he was no better than what we had .... and that was hard to beat. 
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This from a man that defended Quinn? Come on Joe,, Sanchez may end up being a good or even great QB.. But if you look at his stats,, he wasn't all that great..
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Sanchez is just like Carson Palmer. He cant throw to his left. Funny thing is right now I wouldnt trade Wallace for either of those 2 and he cant throw in the pocket.
Now for the Joshua Cribbs will never be a receiver crew. I was very very very impressed with Cribbs in this last contest. The camera angle sucked if u wanted to watch the trench warfare but it was pretty good to see the receivers downfield and one thing that was noticeable on virtually every passing down was cribbs getting open.
Also he did a great job of blocking in the run game aswell. I have watched cribbs since his first training camp and he always seemed to take one step forward and one step back as a receiver. There was never any consistency to his progress. He may have finally taken the two steps forward.
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example: GB picked Brohm in round2 and Flynn in round6 a couple years ago. Flynn outperformed Brohm in practice and preseason, so they cut Brohm and kept Flynn.
Yet Genius kept Ratelouie(Ratliff) over Bartell who outperformed him in preseason last year ..I don't believe Genius can evaluate talent as much as U guys like to think he does.
Maiava IMO is another N'Quill in the wings ..now for me if Viekune can progress enough to get Barton off the field,thats a plus for me..
not sure what Bartell was doing in the film rooms and/or practice field though.
but, with Veikune/Maiava or most of the LB corps, he's been able to see them develop progress over multiple years now; he should know who is going to continue to come along and who isn't. if his ego gets in the way or if he can't do that then he is in the wrong line of work (and I don't think that is the case)
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Also he did a great job of blocking in the run game as well.
I agree, he surprised me as well. Really seemed like he was getting tired blocking though. I don't know if that's a good trade. I'd hate for Hillis to fall on his ankle when he's busting his butt blocking, or to get tired right before lining up to gun on the punt.
My preference, despite his improvement at wideout, is to have him:
1) Run the wildcat
2) Return kicks
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4) Return punts
5) Cover punts
That's a lot. He's the best in the league at most of those things. Why tire him out being a passable receiver? He doesn't NEED a "regular" position to justify his roster spot.
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Browns waive-injured Kwaku Danso The National Football Post 20 minutes ago * Share * retweet * Email * Print The Cleveland Browns have waived-injured defensive lineman Kwaku Danso(notes), the team announced today. Danso went undrafted out of East Carolina this spring. A former walk-on who played sparingly for the Pirates, Danso is a native of Ghana who caught Browns defensive coordinator Rex Ryan's eye while scouting Linval Joseph(notes). Danso is a big, athletic prospect, but raw in his football techniques. The 6-foot-5, 336-pounder could revert to injured reserve if he clears waivers web page
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He should clear waivers... he's beyond raw and is hurt.
Anyone claiming him would be faced with having to either wave him themselves later, or add him to the active roster after cutdowns.
Browns is the Browns
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SO i guess he clears waivers and is put on IR then I cant say I told you so to all the Danso lovers on here. 
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Ahem .... I seem to recall bringing up this very senario a couple of weeks ago .... I mean ... come on and give credit where credit's due.
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I will not be so polite when Veikune is cut. 
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Wow, Head Coach of one team, Defensive Coordinator of another...
I thought that'd be a conflict of interest.
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That might put Maiava out.
I think it'll all depend on how much say Holmgrem has on the final roster. He has no ties to DV.
I don't see Mangini being ego driven about who stays and who doesn't. Besides, Heckert has final control of the roster.. Mangini has input,,but Heckert calls the shots..
I can see Mangini being Ego driven..we will see, players Like ratcliff and barton may not deserve a roster space as well as veikune, whom I think they should return to DE and see what he has as he is totally lost as an IL. Mangini will not be allowed to have his "pets" this year as he has two football people above him that he will have to sell to save any favorites he may have.
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I have a feeling Veikune makes the team. Mangini won't be willing to give up on a second round pick so quickly despite what all of us think about him so far. It'll be an ego/stubborn thing.
That might put Maiava out.
I think it'll all depend on how much say Holmgrem has on the final roster. He has no ties to DV.
I don't see Mangini being ego driven about who stays and who doesn't. Besides, Heckert has final control of the roster.. Mangini has input,,but Heckert calls the shots..
I can see Mangini being Ego driven..we will see, players Like ratcliff and barton may not deserve a roster space as well as veikune, whom I think they should return to DE and see what he has as he is totally lost as an IL. Mangini will not be allowed to have his "pets" this year as he has two football people above him that he will have to sell to save any favorites he may have.
LOL Big surprise that you can see Mangini being ego driven
STOP and think Joe.. If Mangini doesn't play the best guys,, he stands a chance to lose games.. if he looses to many games he gets fired...,
is it that you don't think he's smart enough to figure that out or what?
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Oh man... did you watch last season? Let's hope he doesn't let us get to 1-11 before playing the players that can play again.
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OK ... so who makes the team, and who sees their dream come to an end? (or they move on to a different team) QB: (3) Delhomme, Wallace, McCoy (easy) RB: (4) Harrison, Hillis, Davis, Hardesty (Taking 4 because Hardesty hasn't played much due to injury) FB: (1)Vickers. Of course. TE: (3) Watson, Moore ..... and Smith? Well, I thought that Smith showed some excellent blocking out of the backfield tonight, and he can definitelty catch the ball. More upside, and possibly even better protection, and he can fill more roles ... which is important for your #3 guy. OL: (8) Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Lauvoa, Womack, St Clair, Kooistra, Yates. Not a lot of backup guys who can do a lot ..... so the guys who can do 2 things well win out. WR: (5) Massaquoi, Robiske, Stuckey, Cribbs, Steptoe (Yes, the surprise of the season as Steptoe actually makes the team. Versatility and the ability to play inside and outside win out) DL:(7) Rogers, Rubin, Robaire Smith, Geathers, Robinson, Schaefering, and probably the choice between Moseley and Coleman. (Neither did a thing in the pre-season) Surprisingly tough choices here. Coleman and Moseley could both be gone. LB: (9) Roth, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, Trusnic, Costanza all make the team. Costanza is a special teams beast, and Trusnic could well be a starter in a year. Benard should start this year. Probably 3 more spots to fill. Jackson gets one if he can go. Barton probably gets one because they rested him tonight. I think that Maiva gets the final spot. Bowens may get a reprieve, or may make the team outright if Jackson winds up out for the year. CB: (5) Wow .... we actually have some depth at CB. Brown, Wright, Haden, and McDonald are shoe-ins.Tough choice between Chancellor (who I think played well) Francies, and D.Smith. S: (5) Ward, of course. Adams, and Elam make it. I think that Asante helped himself tonight. Ventrone is solid depth and a quality special teamer. Pontbriand, Dawson, and Hodges round things out. That's 53 ... and that's what we're allowed. That's also who I see us going into the seaosn with. Cuts: Sorenson (2 of 3 between) Francies, D.Smith, Chancellor (Quite probably 2 to PS) Coleman Ivey Moseley Sanford S. Miller (PS) Bowens Veikune Brown Bender Fanaika Murray Pashos Reinders (PS) Ratliff Jennings Gamble Royal Engram Mitchell (PS) That's the way I see it. So let it be written, so let it be done. (Except that I would lose Barton and keep Bowens if I was making the decisions)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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The YTown Nominations please ........ QB: (3) Delhomme, Wallace, McCoy (easy) RB: (4) Harrison, Hillis, Davis, Hardesty (Taking 4 because Hardesty hasn't played much due to injury) FB: (1)Vickers. Of course. TE: (3) Watson, Moore ..... and Smith? Well, I thought that Smith showed some excellent blocking out of the backfield tonight, and he can definitelty catch the ball. More upside, and possibly even better protection, and he can fill more roles ... which is important for your #3 guy. OL: (8) Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Lauvoa, Womack, St Clair, Kooistra, Yates. Not a lot of backup guys who can do a lot ..... so the guys who can do 2 things well win out. WR: (5) Massaquoi, Robiske, Stuckey, Cribbs, Steptoe (Yes, the surprise of the season as Steptoe actually makes the team. Versatility and the ability to play inside and outside win out) DL:(7) Rogers, Rubin, Robaire Smith, Geathers, Robinson, Schaefering, and probably the choice between Moseley and Coleman. (Neither did a thing in the pre-season) Surprisingly tough choices here. Coleman and Moseley could both be gone. LB: (9) Roth, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, Trusnic, Costanza all make the team. Costanza is a special teams beast, and Trusnic could well be a starter in a year. Benard should start this year. Probably 3 more spots to fill. Jackson gets one if he can go. Barton probably gets one because they rested him tonight. I think that Maiva gets the final spot. Bowens may get a reprieve, or may make the team outright if Jackson winds up out for the year. CB: (5) Wow .... we actually have some depth at CB. Brown, Wright, Haden, and McDonald are shoe-ins.Tough choice between Chancellor (who I think played well) Francies, and D.Smith. S: (5) Ward, of course. Adams, and Elam make it. I think that Asante helped himself tonight. Ventrone is solid depth and a quality special teamer. Pontbriand, Dawson, and Hodges round things out. That's 53 ... and that's what we're allowed. That's also who I see us going into the seaosn with. Cuts: Sorenson (2 of 3 between) Francies, D.Smith, Chancellor (Quite probably 2 to PS) Coleman Ivey Moseley Sanford S. Miller (PS) Bowens Veikune Brown Bender Fanaika Murray Pashos Reinders (PS) Ratliff Jennings Gamble Royal Engram Mitchell (PS) That's the way I see it happening. (Not necessarily what I would choose in all cases) So let it be written, so let it be done. (Except that I would lose Barton and keep Bowens if I was making the decisions)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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why do you think Pashos will be cut?
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I think we'll keep Royal instead of Smith. Royal's not a great TE, but he's not a bad blocker and he plays ST.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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why do you think Pashos will be cut?
Because he hasn't played hardly at all.
St Clair has actually played decently for a backup .... and has been healthy.
I expect Womack to be the starter ..... and we can't keep all 3. Gotta go with the ones who can get on the field.
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I think we'll keep Royal instead of Smith. Royal's not a great TE, but he's not a bad blocker and he plays ST.
Smith can play both TE and FB. That makes a difference, and I think it will wind up making "the" difference.
Snith is also a good blocker, and I believe that he plays special teams.
Also ... Royal had only 1 catch the entire pre-season. Smith caught 7 ...... and also blocked really well for Hardesty and Davis yesterday.
I think he beats out Royal for the 3rd spot.
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I'm thinkin Hardesty goes to IR. As bad as Barton played before his injury, and as well as Bowens played down the stretch last year, I will be dissappointed if they release Bowens and keep Barton. Barton might as well put on a headless chicken costume in my opinion.... 
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Barton sat out yesterday's game though.
A team usually doesn't do that with a player they are going to cut. A veteran who is on the bubble would likely get a lot of time to show not only for his current team, but for other teams in the league.
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Your right....so it doesn't look good for Bowens 
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I'm going to be all kinds of mad if we keep Barton at all, let alone if we keep Barton and let Bowens go 
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why do you think Pashos will be cut?
Because he hasn't played hardly at all.
St Clair has actually played decently for a backup .... and has been healthy.
I expect Womack to be the starter ..... and we can't keep all 3. Gotta go with the ones who can get on the field.
Can any of them play both Guard and Tackle ?
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