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What is the story on Shaun Rogers? Other than the stupid airport incident.. where is he? This is one of our STAR players on defense. Issues aside, we need this guy.. Is he on the team or what? Haven't seen him in the preseason.. He feels like he is a guy that has been cut to me... But he is too much of a presence too let go. His blocks on ST... his presence in the center.. What is happening?
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He's also recovering from a broken leg. He's been mostly doing side stuff (riding a bike and/or medicine ball exercises) while he recovers. I really hope he's ready for the regular season.
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Still recovering from his broken leg I think
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Wow... I follow everything and must have missed that. Disappointed with myself. Hope he can be back soon. I mean really.. He is one of the cornerstones of our defense and ST. He is a difference maker.
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Agreed.... And something that should be considered when looking at our preseason defence. We are missing arguably our best defensive player and easily our best lineman.
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i hope he's not pulling a Haynesworth. He broke his ankle 9 or 10 months ago, plently of time for a simple fracture to heal. Now maybe it was a significant fracture and the media just never picked up on that, and if thats the case why not talk about it. Its time for him to practice or i'll begin to wonder if he goes to the PUP.
I'm also curious about a pending suspension, the nfl has to make an announcement on this soon. It will affect player personnel decisions.
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The charges and suspension seem so unreal its hard to take. Wll he really be suspended? If so, it's his last year and Clevo... And then I step back and say maybe not... Because Lawson is still on the team, which shocks me...
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A broken leg heals in six weeks. That happened when? 10 months ago?
He got off light in camp last season. Same thing; lingering injury. He rode the bikes all through camp but once the games counted he hit it in stride. He's doing it again.
Mangini knows what Rogers can do and I think he feels he doesn't have to run his ass ragged in training camp to get the most out of him during the season. The plus is that it helps Rogers to not wear down late in the season and it gives the depth some much needed playing time especially if he needs to sit out a few games with a suspension on the gun thing. After all, minus Rogers and these other guys will have to be able to play together go they're getting their work in now.
Rogers is said to have come into camp in excellent shape. Best since he's been here. First offensive snap for the opposition and Rogers will be there making some big trouble for their OL.
I believe Womack is getting the same treatment. He's healing over a small injury but I'd bet the house that he could play now or at least much sooner than we'll see him.
Experienced workhorses like those guys don't need camp so much. They just need to be in playing shape. They already know what to do. Better to save them for the season. I'll bet that's what's going on. You never know when an injury will force a youngin' into service. Best they get plenty of work in now so they're ready for it if and when the time comes.
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Could be that Rogers is our own little camp version of Favre - know what we got, he's not interested in busting his tail at 2 a days.
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Could be that Rogers is our own little camp version of Favre - know what we got, he's not interested in busting his tail at 2 a days.
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Just an aside.....
As far as I can tell, the exact nature of the injury was never made public with at least one writer speculating that it could be ankle or Achilles. The only definite thing I can find is that it required surgery.
Ankle, yes.. short recovery time. Achilles? Not so much.
If someone has some more concrete information on the injury, that'd be great.
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Could be that Rogers is our own little camp version of Favre - know what we got, he's not interested in busting his tail at 2 a days.
Probably.
Or Mangini realizes that Rogers is going to take enough of a beating and does not need to play in the preseason.
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Could be that Rogers is our own little camp version of Favre - know what we got, he's not interested in busting his tail at 2 a days.
Probably.
Or Mangini realizes that Rogers is going to take enough of a beating and does not need to play in the preseason.
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The dude is like 340 and is a mUnster on the field. He takes double teams, which means he has to beat a total of about 600 lbs for an entire 60 minutes long, for a long 16 game season.
Rogers, I'll see you week 1. Just show up to practice and get on the bike.
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A broken leg heals in six weeks. That happened when? 10 months ago?
He got off light in camp last season. Same thing; lingering injury. He rode the bikes all through camp but once the games counted he hit it in stride. He's doing it again.
Mangini knows what Rogers can do and I think he feels he doesn't have to run his ass ragged in training camp to get the most out of him during the season. The plus is that it helps Rogers to not wear down late in the season and it gives the depth some much needed playing time especially if he needs to sit out a few games with a suspension on the gun thing. After all, minus Rogers and these other guys will have to be able to play together go they're getting their work in now.
Rogers is said to have come into camp in excellent shape. Best since he's been here. First offensive snap for the opposition and Rogers will be there making some big trouble for their OL.
I believe Womack is getting the same treatment. He's healing over a small injury but I'd bet the house that he could play now or at least much sooner than we'll see him.
Experienced workhorses like those guys don't need camp so much. They just need to be in playing shape. They already know what to do. Better to save them for the season. I'll bet that's what's going on. You never know when an injury will force a youngin' into service. Best they get plenty of work in now so they're ready for it if and when the time comes.
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Could be that Rogers is our own little camp version of Farve - know what we got, he's not interested in busting his tail at 2 a days.
Well I think it is a right of passage and many other coach's do the same thing. Saving their veteran players for when it counts.
It's not like they don't already know what Rogers can do.
If he was a rookie or young player, then I might worry about it. He is not and as long as he is ready for the start of the season I don't really care, because younger players whom need the work are able to.
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Ankle, yes.. short recovery time. Achilles? Not so much.
If someone has some more concrete information on the injury, that'd be great.
Broken leg was what I'd read. But then, when you consider the secrecy surrounding injuries it could have been much more severe than that. Still, it's been a long time. If he's not suspended for the opening game I'm still betting he's running over people. 
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Ankle, yes.. short recovery time. Achilles? Not so much.
If someone has some more concrete information on the injury, that'd be great.
Broken leg was what I'd read. But then, when you consider the secrecy surrounding injuries it could have been much more severe than that. Still, it's been a long time. If he's not suspended for the opening game I'm still betting he's running over people.
It could be.
My bet is he is a lard ass who can't practice much but is stronger than most, so practice or not, we are going to play him because he can still push his will where he wants to push his will.....even if it lacks a bit of desire.
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Broken leg/ankle is what I've read as well, but every article also has the caveat of "but no official details of the injury were given".
If it is indeed just a broken leg, then I completely agree with your assessment.
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With the value he can bring to this team when healthy I have no problem with him not participating right now, it's better to give the reps to a guy that can really benefit from it.
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j/c Maybe Goodell secretly suspended him for training camp? 
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With the value he can bring to this team when healthy I have no problem with him not participating right now, it's better to give the reps to a guy that can really benefit from it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.. Schafering is really taking advantage of playing time for sure.
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Hey, Rogers is in camp. He's throwing the medicine ball, riding the bike, and doing one man sled drills with the trainer. Same as last year. BUT He is also in the meetings and such learning his assignments. He'll be there when it counts.
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Rogers will be there when it comes time to start knocking heads. What good would it do to wear down a guy like that with a training camp? Sure, it would give the offensive line a taste of reality but do we really need the injuries?
We have plenty of problems but he's not one of them.
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Dead on.
I might replace the "can't" with a "won't",but other than that I couldn't agree more.
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LINK BEREA, Ohio -- Coach Eric Mangini would not rule out Shaun Rogers opening the regular season on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list. If that happened, the defensive lineman would miss a minimum of six weeks. Rogers has been on preseason PUP while rehabbing from off-season ankle surgery. He has not been cleared to practice with the team. Mangini said he hopes to see "some movement" next week regarding Rogers' progress and that of lineman C.J. Mosley and cornerback Coye Francies, who also have not practiced. When asked if Rogers would be able to open the season on the active roster, Mangini said, "I don't want to put any definitive timeline on it. We'll see where it is." The deadline for reassessing the status of players on preseason PUP is at the final roster cut on Sept. 4. At that time, Rogers could be made active, placed on season-ending injured reserve or put on regular PUP. Players that enter the season on PUP are ineligible to practice or play through the first six weeks of the season. After the sixth week, the player has a 21-day window to start practicing. After the first day he practices, the club then has another 21 days to decide whether to activate him. The NFL still has not ruled whether Rogers will have to serve a suspension for his gun-related arrest on April 1. According to a league spokesman, any suspension would be served concurrently during a player's stay on any injured list.
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This is not encouraging news. I could live with Mosley starting the season on the PUP, but this would really be bad for our DL if we were to be without Rogers for half a season.
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I'm not even worried about it, it would be nice to have him but we lost him week 11 last year and went 4-1 the last 5 games of the season.
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I'm not even worried about it, it would be nice to have him but we lost him week 11 last year and went 4-1 the last 5 games of the season.
Yeah,.....but I was hoping for improvement on last year and I am looking forward to Rogers @ DE with Rubin @ NT and Smith @ the other DE.
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I can see your point, it does suck because I was hoping to see how that would work out myself. But it happens. Let's just hope we have a descent record when he does come back 
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suspension concurrent with PUP is the key here.
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Which might be why there's been no ruling yet.
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don't they need to rule on robaire too?
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Shaun is no spring Chicken anymore and with his weight this might not be a bad thing, rather spend the extra time now in September and have him ready & healthy in november for a playoff push, also the first part is our bye week and the weaker part of our schedule, add in the possible suspension, i think it's a good idea.
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sorry if this is a repeat question. I didn't read from the top.
If he is put on the pup, would any suspension time start after week six?
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Shaun is no spring Chicken anymore and with his weight this might not be a bad thing, rather spend the extra time now in September and have him ready & healthy in november for a playoff push, also the first part is our bye week and the weaker part of our schedule, add in the possible suspension, i think it's a good idea.
Playoff push?
You know Rogers is still a Cleveland Brown, right?
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Yes they do.
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sorry if this is a repeat question. I didn't read from the top.
If he is put on the pup, would any suspension time start after week six?
His suspension would run concurrent with any time spent on an injury list. (at the same time) If he was on the PUP list for 6 games, and received a 1 game suspension, decided while he was on the PUP list, then he would miss no additoonal games.
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i find it rather odd his suspension hasn't been dealt out yet. maybe i'm just impatient, but it seems like the browns should be notified one way or another with 2 weeks until the first game.
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My guess... 0 to 2 game suspension he's made active. 3+ games suspended he's PUP for the roster spot.
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My guess... 0 to 2 game suspension he's made active. 3+ games suspended he's PUP for the roster spot.
To me that sounds about right.
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