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Playoff push?
You know Rogers is still a Cleveland Brown, right?
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suspension concurrent with PUP is the key here.
My guess... 0 to 2 game suspension he's made active. 3+ games suspended he's PUP for the roster spot.
To me that sounds about right.
Realistically if your on the PUP, then the players window for return is normally 8 weeks minimum, because if you are on the PUP you are not permitted to participate in practice......Okay so even if the suspension was to be enforced for active games, he would still most likely take two games to prepare in practice before being active to play.
I would prefer to have Rogers sooner than later, so I hope he will not have to start the season on the PUP.
I do think it looks like Francies will probably end up there at the start of the season and possibly Mosley basically an insurance policy for those positions on the roster and may allow us to keep some of the other young players on the DL that we do not want to put threw waivers or perhaps add a player to another position.
It's inevitable that by the middle of the season we will be replacing a couple of spots on our 53 man roster.
My observations of the league are that although you need to get off to a fast start, more importantly you need to finish strong and the teams who finish strong have either been a little lucky as far as staying healthy or they have good depth.
Sometimes that's easier said then done.
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Can they come off the PUP before 6 weeks?
I thought the six week issue was just the timing of when a go / no go decision started its countdown.
(Example: Welker was on PUP early in camp...then off PUP.)
Maybe the rule is a hard (6) weeks once the season starts?
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Maybe the rule is a hard (6) weeks once the season starts?
Yup, I think so.
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Yes there's a distinction between pre-season "Active PUP" and regular season "Reserve PUP" lists. Here's the full distinction: If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp.
A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit.
A player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.
Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that time frame.
If a player is activated off the Reserve PUP following Week 6, a roster move is required to make room.
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Can they come off the PUP before 6 weeks?
I thought the six week issue was just the timing of when a go / no go decision started its countdown.
(Example: Welker was on PUP early in camp...then off PUP.)
Maybe the rule is a hard (6) weeks once the season starts?
Yes,.....that's the penalty once the season starts.
A player can come off of the PUP @ at any time during training camp.
The team would then still have to remove another player to make room for whatever the roster limit is at the time, ie. 80 or 75.
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What I don't understand, is that Rogers has been seen running and hitting a sled on the sidelines at camp. I can't see how he could do these things if he was injured as bad as they make it sound.
I personally think he will be back just in time for the season. The suspension could be part of the problem, as I see Mangini and Heckert trying to keep as many players on the roster and active. But I would think that if he was suspended, they would do it for games that he can play in. Suspending a guy on a PUP list would be pretty fruitless.
I still believe he is ready, but they are holding him back until necessary. But you never know.
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What I don't understand, is that Rogers has been seen running and hitting a sled on the sidelines at camp. I can't see how he could do these things if he was injured as bad as they make it sound.
I personally think he will be back just in time for the season. The suspension could be part of the problem, as I see Mangini and Heckert trying to keep as many players on the roster and active. But I would think that if he was suspended, they would do it for games that he can play in. Suspending a guy on a PUP list would be pretty fruitless.
I still believe he is ready, but they are holding him back until necessary. But you never know.
I agree he doesn't seem to be that far off and I too would rather he be back as soon as possible, but I can live with the other two not being available for half of the season. That gives us some options down the road when the going will get tougher and injuries that may a rise.
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Will they just freakin send the ruling down on this guy already!!?
This has gotten ridiculous. What on earth could they still be reviewing?
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Cleveland Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers will not be not suspended but he will be fined due to an offseason arrest for carrying a gun through an airport, an NFL source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Rogers will be fined approximately $300,000, but the source was uncertain of the exact total.
During his visit with Browns players last week, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell praised Rogers for recently helping police stop a motorist driving under the influence through a Cleveland suburb near the Browns' camp, but stopped short of saying it would influence his decision.
"It's a great example of a young man making a mistake on one hand and then doing something positive on the other," he said.
Rogers entered a diversion program last month to avoid trial on the airport weapons charge.
Under the terms, the felony gun charge will be dismissed if the 31-year-old Rogers completes the program, including 40 hours of volunteer service and 10 hours in a gun class. He also has to forfeit the weapon.
Police said Rogers had the semiautomatic handgun in a carry-on bag at Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport in April.
The Browns open the regular season on Sept. 12 against the Buccaneers in Tampa, Fla.
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Hopefully he can start Game 1. I'd like to see him at end and Rubin at nose or vise versa.
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Glad to see he won't be suspended.
$300,000 is a pretty nice little fine!
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The ruling has come down... <drum roll>
The NFL will not suspend Browns DL Shaun Rogers for an offseason arrest involving a concealed weapon at Hopkins International Airport.
The Browns had been expecting a one-game suspension, but the NFL apparently concluded that it was an honest mistake. Rodgers may still miss several games at the beginning of the season while recovering from a broken leg. Ahtyba Rubin has emerged as the Browns' starting nose tackle.
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A little surprised by this, figured a one game suspension was the minimum, but glad they went this way.
Now to see what/if anything Robaire gets.
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I've heard some speculation that players arent getting as heavy suspensions because of the looming lockout.
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This was the right call in this case, 300k is even a little steep. OK, 1 down, how much longer are we going to have to wait on Smith now? 
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I have to imagine the punishment will be right there along those same lines.
It might not be as much since Smith makes less than Rogers, so maybe reduced proportionally.
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And will Rogers be on the field.
My gut tells me he will be practicing next week.
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I'm a little suprised..thought the Commish would lower the boom..now what about Robaire?
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I've heard some speculation that players arent getting as heavy suspensions because of the looming lockout.
I would be shocked if that were the case, as such a move actually shows weakness in terms of negotiations, not favor.
I don't believe a suspension would have been required in this case. Rogers isn't a bright guy. He wasn't at Texas, he wasn't at Detroit, and he isn't now. He made a dumb-dumb but honest mistake, not a willful and aggressive one. And while Goodell wouldn't say being a good Samaritan helped his cause, it sure did.
In these kinds of negotiations, being soft.............IE coddling players in situations like this............doesn't help your position, it hurts it. In fact, the absolute WORST thing the league could do would be to change in any way.......harsher or softer.....how they deal with suspensions. I think a hefty fine was warranted, but not a suspension.
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And now this paves the way for Goodell to lower Rothlisbergers to 4 games...
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I think Goodell has already did that by first saying his suspension could be reduced to 4 games if he is on good behavior and then recently saying that Ben has done everything they asked and more.
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Yeah, IMO, there's not a chance Big Ben is suspended for the full 6 games.
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Good. Now Rogers can squish him in his first game back. 
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And now this paves the way for Goodell to lower Rothlisbergers to 4 games...
Yeah,..... And two weeks to prepare for us as they have a bye week in week 5 
Good to hear Rogers will not be suspended. I can't see Smith being suspended now.
Now we just need him ready to play.
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As a Browns fan, I'm thrilled he didn't get a suspension. As a responsible gun owner, I think they should have given him the max. Anyone that has no idea of the location of their loaded handgun should be punished severely.
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Playoff push?
You know Rogers is still a Cleveland Brown, right?
I live in a world where the sky is orange and the grass is brown....
sounds a lot like a Phoenix at dusk.
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I think Goodell has already did that by first saying his suspension could be reduced to 4 games if he is on good behavior and then recently saying that Ben has done everything they asked and more.
I read something the other day that put a different perspective on this. It said that instead of looking at it as a 6 game suspension that could be reduced to 4, look at it as a 4 game suspension that could be expanded to 6 if Big Ben's behavior warranted it.
On the face of it there doesn't seem to be any difference. But it's like my rent that is reduced by $50 if I pay it on time. Truth is, my rent is actually the lower number, but if I'm late paying then the $50 is added on.
So the point is, Big Ben's suspension was probably always meant to 4 games but by making it 6 in the beginning it enabled Goodell to be the good guy by reducing it for good behavior rather than the task master by increasing it if Ben behaved badly.
No big thing. Just a different way of looking at the same thing.
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Glad to see he won't be suspended.
$300,000 is a pretty nice little fine!
This AP story has the fine closer to 400K...that is a hunk of change.
Maybe Rogers will have some incentive to get back on the field trying to make some of that "change" back...if there are incentives incorporated into his contract...such as so many sacks = an additional $400K, for example...
Browns NT Rogers fined one game check for airport gun incident
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Published: Aug. 31, 2010 at 05:29 p.m
BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns nose tackle Shaun Rogers will not be suspended by the NFL for carrying a loaded gun into an airport.
The league said Rogers will be fined a one-game check -- roughly $400,000 -- for violating its personal-conduct policy. The former Pro Bowl lineman, who hasn't practiced this summer because of a leg injury that ended his season after 11 games in 2009, is appealing the decision.
Police said Rogers carried a semiautomatic handgun in a carry-on bag into Hopkins International Airport in April. He reached a deal with prosecutors last month and was ordered to enter diversion program to avoid trial on the weapons charge.
Under the terms, the felony gun charge will be dismissed if Rogers, 31, completes the program.
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$400k is quite a chunk of change, as you said.
...but it's only one game check. Sort of puts that into perspective, right?
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$400k is quite a chunk of change, as you said.
...but it's only one game check. Sort of puts that into perspective, right?
If Roger were to be suspended he would have lost the game check anyway?
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The NFL donates the money to various charities.
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Playoff push?
You know Rogers is still a Cleveland Brown, right?
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you live next to a Chinese factory?
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FL_Dawg, I really don't think the shortened suspension of Big Ben will really matter. Every year the NFL has projected GOOD teams that end up under performing. This year I think the Squeelers and Cardinals top that list. Ben had how many game to prepare for us last year when we finally beat them? I think the Steelers are beginning the downward spiral and the Cards have embraced our QB quandry of last year. Neither DA nor Lienhart can prove he is the man hands down, so Wyzenhunt (sp?) has said in public interviews that he hasn't made a QB decision and may "keep em guessing" into week one...sound familiar? 
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Punished by the law or NFL?
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Well .... if you have 2 QBs, you really have none.
DA and Leinart, much as DA and Quinn, offer 2 different styles and potential strengths. There is a modest difference in preparing for one vs the other ...... but really .... with 2 bad QBs does it matter if you prepare for "Captain Checkdown", or "The Manic Machinegun"?
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Well .... if you have 2 QBs, you really have none.
DA and Leinart, much as DA and Quinn, offer 2 different styles and potential strengths. There is a modest difference in preparing for one vs the other ...... but really .... with 2 bad QBs does it matter if you prepare for "Captain Checkdown", or "The Manic Machinegun"?
Either cover the RB in the flat, or you don't...
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It was just so damn funny hearing Wyz pretty much echo Mangenious from last year...thought I was in the twilight zone or something.
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