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My friends and I do this prediction every season. Basically the point is to pick two Browns players. The first player is someone who you think will BOOM and exceed expectations. It may be someone we drafted or it may just be someone who is undervalued and will break out and have a great year. The other player is a BUST in terms of 2010 performance. Someone who will play far below expectations or hype.

I get the gist that many people will pick Delhomme for the breakout category (and I agree he will exceed national expectations). I think he'll have an above average year. But I have a feeling that Ben Watson is going to have an outstanding year. I think he is undervalued by many people and is overlooked. I have a feeling he is going to be somewhere in the 60 receptions, 600 yards and 6 TD range. I think he'll be our safety valve offensively.

On the other end of the spectrum, it isn't as fun to pick my bust player because I don't want anyone to play poorly. At first thought I wanted to choose Jerome Harrison because I think he won't have the numbers that some are expecting him to, but I think he'll have an OK year. My pick last year with my buddies was Veikune (and unfortunately I was correct last year). As for this year, I'm going to select TJ Ward. It's not that I think he isn't going to be a good player in the future, I just don't think he's going to have a great year. Plus, he's been getting a lot of press recently and a lot of people are talking about him. Call it a gut feeling (we all hate that term) but I think he's going to struggle this year...and I really hope I'm wrong.

Any thoughts/predictions?


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BOOM - Shawn Lauvao

BUST - Tony Pashos

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I am going out on a limb

I personally think Cribbs will boom as a receiver.

I personally think Harrison will bust as a running back. Hardesty and Hillis will be his demise.

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I agree with Lauvao as a boom

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Boom - Hillis

Bust - Pashos


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Luavao was my 2nd boom choice actually. good pick.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Boom is Moore at TE... I think Moore and Watson are going to be one heck of a duo in the control passing game and the stretch the field down the middle game.

Bust is Roth at LB... Not sure how he got all of those sacks at the end of last season but I think people are expecting him to be a 10-12 sack guy and it's not going to happen.


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Boom - Hillis

Sizzle - Delhomme. All he needs to have what is an "average" season for him to be worth it to me.

Bust - Hmm... I'll have to wait until the final 53 for that one. I have a couple of candidates.


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Boom: Ward

Bust: Davis (if he even makes the team that is)


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I guess the problem is that the way the game was laid out is that we are comparing to our expectations.. I have high expectations for Hillis therefore it will be hard for him to greatly exceed them...


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Boom: Ward

Bust: Davis (if he even makes the team that is)




Why Davis at this point? We haven't seen much of him and had some promise last season until the injury. Just seems like there's many more candidates for bust at this point than a guy that could easily be a great special teamer this year.


James Davis

Pros: Possibly the quickest and fastest in the group ... super-productive in 2009 preseason ... looks more mature physically and as a player this year ... can make a big play out of a short swing pass.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/08/montario_hardestys_preseason_d.html


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I guess the problem is that the way the game was laid out is that we are comparing to our expectations.. I have high expectations for Hillis therefore it will be hard for him to greatly exceed them...




I'd consider Hillis a boom based on what we traded for him - a shaken QB AND got picks in return. There was little talk of Hills prior to the pre-season but he will be a huge boom if this works out. Not only for this season, but what we traded to get him here. So it's an overall huge boom if this works.


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Boom: Ward

Bust: Davis (if he even makes the team that is)




Why Davis at this point? We haven't seen much of him and had some promise last season until the injury. Just seems like there's many more candidates for bust at this point than a guy that could easily be a great special teamer this year.


James Davis

Pros: Possibly the quickest and fastest in the group ... super-productive in 2009 preseason ... looks more mature physically and as a player this year ... can make a big play out of a short swing pass.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/08/montario_hardestys_preseason_d.html




Look, you can find positive write ups on just about anyone.. all that matters is what we see.. and so far, we saw some good stuff out of him last preseason and then nothing in the Reg season (before you say it, yeah, I know, he was injured.. But when he wasn't, he didn't excite)

But if I remember correctly, the point of this thread is to give our Boom or Bust candidates.. I've made my picks,, you don't have to agree with them..


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Good take on Hillis. I think he is a candidate for a boom because the expectations were not there; he was merely a "throw in" player for a trade. If he could even get us a few hundred yards and a few TDs, that's probably making a case. I actually think he'll be a valuable player for us.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Boom: Ward

Bust: Davis (if he even makes the team that is)




Why Davis at this point? We haven't seen much of him and had some promise last season until the injury. Just seems like there's many more candidates for bust at this point than a guy that could easily be a great special teamer this year.


James Davis

Pros: Possibly the quickest and fastest in the group ... super-productive in 2009 preseason ... looks more mature physically and as a player this year ... can make a big play out of a short swing pass.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/08/montario_hardestys_preseason_d.html




Look, you can find positive write ups on just about anyone.. all that matters is what we see.. and so far, we saw some good stuff out of him last preseason and then nothing in the Reg season (before you say it, yeah, I know, he was injured.. But when he wasn't, he didn't excite)

But if I remember correctly, the point of this thread is to give our Boom or Bust candidates.. I've made my picks,, you don't have to agree with them..




Sorry for asking a question on your picks.

Did not realize that was not accepted in this thread.



Next time please have the OP state that you are allowed 1 post to state your picks and that is it. Further questions/comments will not be tolerated. Thanks.


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Boom: Lawrence Vickers. I see him laying waste to opposing linebackers all season.

Bust: Massaquoi. I think we got our expectations up a little bit last year and he'll let us down by having a sophomore slump.


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It's not that your not allowed to question me Cdawg,, it's that it's just an opinion,, I can be as wrong as you are right...

I think Davis will be a bust.. JMO


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I'm not sure how a 6th round at best 3rd string rb can be a bust. Barring injury I doubt he even sees the field.


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Boom - Joshua Cribbs as a wide receiver

Bust - Wildcat/Cyclone package

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Boom - Joshua Cribbs as a wide receiver

Bust - Wildcat/Cyclone package




hey someone agrees with my boom!

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I agree with the Boom of Cribbs at receiver too but I just thought Moore was slightly more of a boom.


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Boom - Hillis

Bust - Pashos




Extra emphasis on the "Boom, I just laid you out!"


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Boom: Robiskie
Bust: Gocong

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Boom: Lauvao

Bust: Cribbs as kick/punt returner.

I think Cribbs is going to struggle as kick/punt returner because:

1) Our ST blocking so far in the preseason has looked mediocre at best (hopefully it's because it's preseason);
2) Cribbs is going to realize that if he wants to stay in this league and make the big bucks, it's going to be as a WR. So he's not going to be as kamikaze, which was his bread and butter.

I really hope I'm wrong about that, though.


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Boom - Joe Haden

He seems like the 1st round pick that time forgot right now. Barely a mention here on the boards or in the national media. Yes, this is largely because Wright and Brown are likely going to start ahead of him at the beginning of the year. However, I fully expect him to play a ton and be our best CB by the end of the year.

Bust - Ben Watson

I like him allright, but he's been getting people's expectations high and not delivering his whole career. I see a guy who isn't the greatest blocker and isn't the greatest receiver but who is just good enough to do a little of both. I think Moore ends up being our primary pass catching TE and ends up with better numbers at year end.


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BOOM - Carlton Mitchell

BUST - Joe Thomas

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Bust - Fujita (unless they move him inside)
Boom - Robo

I was also considering McDonald for the boom, since he's been dropped to backup maybe he'll start tackling.


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You can't do bust first.. that messes everything up.


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Boom: Marcus Benard

Bust: Shaun Rogers

I just don't expect Rogers back for several weeks, and don't think that he will be as great as some hope he will be.

Man I hope I'm very, very wrong.


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Boom: Lauvao

Bust: Cribbs as kick/punt returner.

I think Cribbs is going to struggle as kick/punt returner because:

1) Our ST blocking so far in the preseason has looked mediocre at best (hopefully it's because it's preseason);
2) Cribbs is going to realize that if he wants to stay in this league and make the big bucks, it's going to be as a WR. So he's not going to be as kamikaze, which was his bread and butter.

I really hope I'm wrong about that, though.



Add the new rules for Kick Returning make it harder for the STs to block on kicks...

Boom: Hardesty or Davis, whoever gets the shot...

Bust: The entire right side of the Oline.


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Great BOOM pick YTown. Benard certainly has the ability. I hope he can get the run defense and polish his game up in order to be a full time player.

Will the kickoff rule change affect Cribbs that much? I hope not!


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I guess I see boom/bust as a matter of expectations.

If we expect the right side of the line to suffer, then it's hard for them to bust.

For me, a bust would be the left side of our line (not that I think it's going to happen, just that it would fit the definition of "bust").

We expect the left side of our line and Mack to be dominant. But, if you expect that, but think they're going to falter, then that's a bust.

That's why I picked Cribbs as returner.

He's lead us to believe he's extremely successful in that job. But, I just think he's going to struggle at it (whether it's his fault or not), hence why he's going to be a bust, IMO.


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Will the kickoff rule change affect Cribbs that much? I hope not!




I'm pretty sure changing the way teams have to set up their kickoff returns when they've been doing it a certain way (sucessfully) for years would effect them, negatively...


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Bust - Fujita (unless they move him inside)
Boom - Robo

I was also considering McDonald for the boom, since he's been dropped to backup maybe he'll start tackling.




i could not agree more. i really like the way robo has looked in the pre. i think he's gonna get off to a good start and become a good solid #2ish receiver.

and as far as fujita, wow does he look slow. he might be a good piece for us, but i think he's gonna have trouble picking up mangini's defense and might not show us anything good until the latter part of the year.

i really hope we go linebacker in rd 1, 2 or both in next year's draft. it's gotta be front seven, come on mike. it's gonna kill us again.

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BOOM - Hillis

BUST - Harrison


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Will the kickoff rule change affect Cribbs that much? I hope not!




I'm pretty sure changing the way teams have to set up their kickoff returns when they've been doing it a certain way (sucessfully) for years would effect them, negatively...




What was the rule change?
Wasn't it last year that they changed the number of players on the wedge? If so, and you're not talking about some other rule change... I'd think that we've already adapted to it.


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Bust - Harrison

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Boom - Harrison. Everyone underestimates him.

Bust - Sheldon Brown, sadly. He's a good vet leader though.

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with all the bust picks on Harrison, maybe his expectations aren't so high this year


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Bust - Our Linebackers


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