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It's a sad day when there is no team spirit left in Browns Town to go to a game. I always thought going to a game was more than just if the team is good or not. It was for the atmosphere and camaraderie.
There's plenty of team spirit. These games will sell out just fine. Last year there were individual tickets all over the place...the fact that single game tickets are sold out is a great sign.
I bought the 3 for $99 ticket plan with some of my friends this season. (and for the record I've gone to more Indians games this season than I ever have, and this is the worst Indians season I can remember)
But really, I think the bubble is bursting as far as ticket prices in sports. You can thank LeBron and the rest of those douchebags in the NBA for making sports seem more about the player than the team. It has turned a lot of people off not just from the NBA but sports in general.
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It's a sad day when there is no team spirit left in Browns Town to go to a game. I always thought going to a game was more than just if the team is good or not. It was for the atmosphere and camaraderie.
You get it.
There are maybe 3 million people living inside 30-40 miles of the stadium. Say half aren't sports fans at all, so you just eliminate them. Take away another quarter who are too old, sick, or young....the number of young isn't that great as parents can and should take their kids to sporting events...and you are down to maybe 1.2 m people who can realisticall attend a game a year.
I am guessing the team has 40,000 seats sold as season tickets, so for every game they might need to push 30,000 tickets.
I am not counting preseason as no owner expects to sell those out no matter how much they want to sell those games, so over 8 games the team might need to sell 240,000 seats a season to walk-up customers...well under the number of people who could go to a game, and well under the number if you start including some of the people we eliminated in the first half as people with no interest...I have no interest in opera as an example but somehow end up attending 1-2 a year.
As to the winning part, sure, it's great, but i still say winning as a prerequist for attending is semi bandwagonish.
Either you are a fan or you aren't is how I view it. Why even watch on TV or post on Browns message boards if you are only interested in a good product before you show your support?
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Economics play a factor in all this. We're in the middle of a recession, unemployment is high, people trying to get debt under control. Money is not as abundant so sacrifices are made. If one is trying to save money, it is cheaper to watch the game at home.
If they want people to put out money they don't have for tickets, they need to put a better product on the field. I don't necessarily mean a winning a product, but a product worth watching. Watching the Browns get steamrolled without putting up any kind of a fight is not entertaining and often a waste of time in which one could find something more important to do.
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Point taken, and it has never been ignored.
I think I have an equally valid point.....it isn't impossible for more people to find an extra $60 to go to 1 game a year.
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Well i've been going to game's since I was a teen, alway's found a way to spare the extra $ You are either a fan or not. Now I do understand the $ and how people may not be able to, but if you realy want to see it up close, you find a way.
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Point taken, and it has never been ignored.
I think I have an equally valid point.....it isn't impossible for more people to find an extra $60 to go to 1 game a year.
I can't take my family to a minor league hockey game for 60 bucks.
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Point taken, and it has never been ignored.
I think I have an equally valid point.....it isn't impossible for more people to find an extra $60 to go to 1 game a year.
I can't take my family to a minor league hockey game for 60 bucks.
Look, we are just going to bicker, and i don't want that, j, you are a good egg.
If you can't make games for financial reasons, God bless you....I really mean that....things will look up in time.
I still think there are a whole bunch of people who could support the team a game or two a season and not have to take food from their kids plate.
I guess all I am saying is if games are blacked out locally, you shouldn't complain if you haven't bought at least a seat or two. If you have done that, you have at least met the minimum threshold.
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Point taken, and it has never been ignored.
I think I have an equally valid point.....it isn't impossible for more people to find an extra $60 to go to 1 game a year.
I can't take my family to a minor league hockey game for 60 bucks.
Look, we are just going to bicker, and i don't want that, j, you are a good egg.
If you can't make games for financial reasons, God bless you....I really mean that....things will look up in time.
I still think there are a whole bunch of people who could support the team a game or two a season and not have to take food from their kids plate.
I guess all I am saying is if games are blacked out locally, you shouldn't complain if you haven't bought at least a seat or two. If you have done that, you have at least met the minimum threshold.
I'm not saying I agree with the logic I'm about to say...but I've heard it from more than a few people, mostly older people (late 50's).
A lot of people won't go to December games just because of the cold weather. They'd rather sit at home in the comfort of their living room where they won't freeze their asses off.
We can talk about "Browns football is played outdoors" all we want, I'm not disagreeing AT ALL...but the fact of the matter is that the lack of a retractable roof dome has hurt ticket sales along with the team sucking for the past decade.
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A retractable roof would increase attendance by about 25 people.
I've been to games in domes - detroit and indy. Doesn't affect attendance at all.
The Browns need to win - ANY team needs to win. That is, simply, what affects attendance.
I'm a past season ticket holder. Due to my job situation 8 years ago, I gave up the tickets. Haven't regretted it since. Ticket cost times 2, toll road fee, parking, ..........just for 2 of us to go, it was too expensive to go to every home game.
Now, wife and I go to 1 game a year, spend the night in Cleveland on Sat, eat out, go to the game, come home.
Enough for me. I love the Browns - but I'm not wasting 8 Sundays a year traveling to Cleveland - and for me, it's about 2 1/2 hours - maybe 3 with game day traffic.
Costs are too high.
Put a retractable roof stadium there - I'm going to 1 game a year, but the ticket prices will be much higher.
It's not the stadium - it's the product. Anyone that calls me a "lesser fan" because I say that is just wrong........and bordering on egotistic.
I'm not some bandwagon fan.
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I disagree Arch. I was going to agree, and started to type out my support then had a "on the other hand" moment and had to start all over.  Earlier I mentioned how you could scratch off half the population as people who simply had no interest in sports. I supposed of that half I wiped off, ALL of them might not fit in to people who simply hate sports or football. At least some percentage of the 1.5 million would be indifferent about sports. I mentioned how I have no interest in opera, yet somehow find myself sitting through one or two a year. Now if I thought there was even a remote chance of my having to do that while sitting in anything but a temperature controlled environment, it wouldn't happen at all. The numbers might not be 10,000 a game, but over the course of the season I think the number would add up to a fairly significant amount.
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.just for 2 of us to go, it was too expensive to go to every home game.
I agree witht that, and I have season tickets,so my ticketare paid for already but still it ends up costing quite a bit for me and my daughter to drive the 40 miles to Cleveland,park,eat, and whatever else for 10 games a year. We dont bother with the pre season games,so eight games a year.
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