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Cleveland Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme to undergo MRI on ankle, source says
Published: Monday, September 13, 2010, 3:56 PM Updated: Monday, September 13, 2010, 4:50 PM Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
Cleveland, Ohio – Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme will undergo an MRI on his right ankle, which he hurt during Sunday’s 17-14 loss to the Tampa Bay Bucs, a source told the Plain Dealer today.
Browns coach Eric Mangini said Delhomme will undergo tests, but did not specify whether he’ll undergo X-rays or an MRI or both. He indicated that the tests will be conducted within the next couple of days.
Delhomme twisted the ankle near the end of the first half, and was seen limping. Delhomme said after the game that the ankle was fine and that it was no excuse for his performance, which included two interceptions. Mangini said that he checked with Delhomme and the trainers during the game and all agreed that he was OK to continue playing.
Of course Delhomme is going to say he is "alright" he is a competitor I would expect him too
If Delhomme needs an MRI I think things are worse then people think..
Remember...Mangini withheld injury information on Brett Farve from the NFL and watched him throw away a season in NY injured.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jake's Ankle injury is worse then many think..Mangini would have to know, anyone with any common sense that sees a guy limping like Jake was knows he should have been pulled...this a classic blunder and incompetence.
Mary Kay Cabot from the plain dealer says he needs an MRI..I bet he misses time...Won't Cartman just look so smart if this guy has to miss time...continuing to play him hurt in a game to boot! 
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Remember...Mangini withheld injury information on Brett Farve from the NFL and watched him throw away a season in NY injured.
I didn't really notice who posted this until I got to this part, then KNEW it was you...
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Calling Mangini "Cartman" is getting old. I don't expect you to stop because I am saying this. You have the freedom to call him Cartman, I have the freedom to say that calling him Cartman is juvenile, annoying, and lessens the weight of anything you say on this message board.
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I have pretty much stopped reading his posts.
In a case like this, I read the article, and that's it.
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Won't Cartman just look so smart if this guy has to miss time...continuing to play him hurt in a game to boot!
Well, not if this part is true:
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Mangini said that he checked with Delhomme and the trainers during the game and all agreed that he was OK to continue playing.
If the trainers okayed it, it's not totally on Mangini, and I agree that the Cartman thing is getting old.
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Mangini withheld injury information on Brett Farve from the NFL and watched him throw away a season in NY injured.
Entirely different situation,, but what's that got to do with this? DId Mangini withhold info that Delhomme needed an MRI?
Mangini could coach the Browns to a Superbowl win and you'd find something wrong with him,, your like Chicken Little,,,,, and you wonder why you get ridiculed 
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OK OK OK
you guys win
i will not post another thread on this forum about Cartman...err I mean Mangini.
i will stop referring to Mangini as Cartman.......
I will be more then happy to keep my trap shut and not say one word bad or good about this team, and just watch Mangini tank this season away.
if that is what you want, wish granted!
everyone thinks i have some hidden agenda and I am just "out to get" Mangini, and thats not true at all. Its the farthest thing from the truth....
I judge him on what I seen him do (I watched this guy in NY Jet land for 4 years he is doing the same things here that got him canned in NY) but most of you other Browns fans never paid much attention to the Ny sports Market, Im stuck watching this garbage on Sat because I can't get my local stations here...
if you don't want to believe me about Mangini, fine
i will NOT say one more ill word about him or say anything good or bad about him.
I watched this guy's act play out for 4 years...whats another year right? most of you haven't seen this movie yet. enjoy the show
i won't spoil any more of it for you.
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You don't like him because of what he did in NY?
Took them to the playoffs his first year, and was 8-2 before Bret hurt his arm and went INT happy. He was the scape goat, got canned...
I'm not saying he's going to be great here, or anywhere, I'm just not going to say "FIRE HIM NOW NOW NOW!" after 17 games...
If you're not "out to get" Mangini as you put it, then I don't know what the definition of "out to get" is...
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I judge him on what I seen him do (I watched this guy in NY Jet land for 4 years
Wasn't he only there for three years?
I'm thinking that you didn't watch very closely 
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Thanks your right 3 years...I got his last year here mixed in somehow...been a long day thanks Prp!
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You don't like him because of what he did in NY?
Took them to the playoffs his first year, and was 8-2 before Bret hurt his arm and went INT happy. He was the scape goat, got canned...
I'm not saying he's going to be great here, or anywhere, I'm just not going to say "FIRE HIM NOW NOW NOW!" after 17 games...
If you're not "out to get" Mangini as you put it, then I don't know what the definition of "out to get" is...
He goes 10-6 his first year...loses in the playoffs to Pats...i'll cut him some slack here.
Year two he posts an awful 4-12 record..the team looked like garbage...
Year 3...yeah he started off 8-2..and then he played a hurt Qb and alowed his team to tank any shot they had at the playoffs...it is proven Mangini with held injury info from the league, the guy was fined for it...and it was because of Farve.
all they had to do was win 1 friggin game and the Jets would have been in...All Mangini had to do was put in his backup (clements I do believe) and ran the ball with Thomas Jones and they are in the postseason and its a whole new ball game...but "no" Mangini justhad to march an injured Farve out there....against league rules...yeah that inspires confidence.
like I said I am NOT out to get Mangini...he does a fine job of getting himself all on his own.
As I said before I am not going to say anything else about the guy..i guess you people are just going to have tosee for yourself...being forced into watching the Jets, i kinda got a soft spot for them..I watch Mangini run that team into the ground and tank an 8-2 season for no other reason then pride...he thought he knew better that Farve could play..
THAT is why the Jets canned him...make all the excuses you want..the fact is Mangini was fined by the league for withholding injury information...he cost the Jets a chance at the postseason
do you want a man of "that" kind of scrupples running your football program? I thought coaches are supposed to be honest and play within the rules...but what do i know right?
however I am done with this..i am not out to get Mangini,....Mangini will get himself you will very well see this season...watch it for yourself.
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This is not surprising news. Most of the time if a guy is hurt they get a MRI.
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Back on topic please!
My dad and I were questioning his longevity during the preseason and here we are after the first game! I hope Seneca is getting warmed up!
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So much for you shutting your trap... 
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Aren't you one of the people calling for Gruden?
Better look at his up and down, year by year results if you want to crucify Mangini over his 1 down year in New York.
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So much for you shutting your trap...
I was going to thank him, but then he opened his trap again 
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I hope he recovers quickly. I was very excited about Wallace coming to Cleveland. I strongly suspect we're going to see if he's got it or not.
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I'd rather see a healthy Wallace playing QB than a hurt immobile Jake. Once i saw him limping around I was thinking why don't the get him out of there before he gets hurt worse, we have a backup QB just for this.
Now if Jake is healthy play him, he didn't look bad until he got hurt but if he is limping around all season let him rest the ankle and get it right.
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After last years QB disaster, no way was Mangini gonna pull Delhomme. I dont blame him.
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I agree. Although I can see Gini's side too. If the Leader says he's good, then he's good. Do you remember BK & the Jets game? Kosar got hammered & said he felt like he was dying. Well, he got back up & thought: I can't wuss out now, (we were losing) the fans & the city were depending on him. Granted, it was a playoff game, but I think Jake feels the same way. He wanted to lead the team to a win, just did not work out that way.
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After last years QB disaster, no way was Mangini gonna pull Delhomme. I dont blame him.
I agree. The only way he comes out is if Jake says he can't go.
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I can understand wanting to stick with the #1 QB and as a fan I'm glad Jake said he was OK and wanted to keep playing. Just at that time in that game yesterday I had one of those gut feelings, "Oh boy... just when everything was going fine our qb is limping around now, time for the s$@* to hit the fan."
It is so hard to plant and throw if you have a busted up ankle. If it is your plant leg you can't get over the top on your throws because you can't plant and if it is your back leg you can't push the ball to spots you normally could. I hope he is fine and if he is start him but again if he is hobbling around like an old man then let him rest his body a week or two.
Other teams do it all the time. Their starter gets hurt then bring in a backup for that game get a spark going again and win. Then they start the normal qb the next week like nothing happend.
I think Mangini didn't want another QB debate so he just stuck with Jake for the sake of it.
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Quit.
Football is a mans sports.
people limp all the time.
Your guy says he is good to go, you play him unless it's totally obvious.
Ok....he limped....so friggen what?
Some of you need to quit sounding like girls.
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Yes, Football is a man's sport but please do not confuse being a man with being stupid. If was OBVIOUS that Delhomme could not plant off of that busted ankle. That is why some of his passes were sailing high on him. The best example of that was when he was trying to hit Mo-Mass on a route between the corner and safety. And the way the O-line was blocking, he needed all the mobility he could muster.
If his ankle is busted, its better to get him out.
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Sometimes it pays to play smarter not harder...
Plus Jake looked like a completely different quarterback after he got hurt, his body language was down and he was looking like an old slow man.
If your car got a flat what would you do? Drive 100 miles on the flat because your car can take it or do you stop pull over and change the flat?
edit: Just to clarify I am not saying Jake sucks and should be replaced all season or even next week I'm saying we have a good back up QB who can make just as many throws as Jake can and he was healthy, while Jake (no matter what he said) was not.
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Yes, Football is a man's sport but please do not confuse being a man with being stupid. If was OBVIOUS that Delhomme could not plant off of that busted ankle. That is why some of his passes were sailing high on him. The best example of that was when he was trying to hit Mo-Mass on a route between the corner and safety. And the way the O-line was blocking, he needed all the mobility he could muster.
If his ankle is busted, its better to get him out.
How you doing man....haven't seen you in a while....but to the point, you don't know that in the middle of the game.
You ask your guy if he is good.
If he says he is, you go with it.
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I think that the only way you take a guy out under those circumstances is if he is just getting beaten on play after play after play.
That wasn't that case with Delhomme on Sunday. He had some trouble moving, but he wasn't getting hit on every play. He wasn't getting beaten into the ground every time he dropped back.
Oh, and we had the lead until 6 minutes left in the game.
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Hey Ballpeen, Doing fine.. just another year cheering for the Browns.
Like you mentioned before, you definately ask Delhomme how he is feeling. And like a old vet, Delhomme will probably say fine. But after watching him hobble off the field, you gotta address that ankle somehow. Either tell the trainer to re-wrap it or watch him throw on the sidelines.. if he cannot plant, gotta come out.
Plus with our O-line on the right side being very leaky, mobility will be a premium all year long.
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Like I said in a different thread, you could tell Delhomme was hobbled but he came out on that first drive of the second half and promptly marched us from our own 18 to their 15 before Hillis fumbled.. he was 2 for 2 for 65 yards with the two passes to Moore.. he looked like he could play...
And I don't know what they did.. did they just ask him? Did they take an x-ray at halftime? Did they make him plant, cut, move around? I have no idea... but if we don't make 8 stupid mistakes (none of which had anything to do with his ankle) then we win the game and this isn't a discussion..
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K.O.B get over it already. Alot of the NY team was built by Mangini and he was a scape goat. Belicheck was hated every where too, bet you hated him too. Did you brag about how you watched that movie too when New England hired Bill B.? No I didn't say Mangini will end up like Belicheck but I'm not saying he might not either. I'm cool if you quit posting your pointless remarks about Mangini, actually I thank you if you quit. The Cartman remarks aren't really creative either and actually not even a little bit funny.
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Just sayin...
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You ask your guy if he is good.
If he says he is, you go with it.
And sometimes you make an executive, head coaching type, decision and put the backup in when he's more mobile and you know you're going to have to pass. Especially when you have traffic cones guarding the right side.
Sorry, buddy, Wallace should have been in after the injury. He gave us the best chance to win. I was 1000 miles away and I could see that.
Oh, and I'm not a girl. Just a guy that is starting to get tired of bad coaching decisions always being defended.
If KC cleans our clock, as I'm starting to suspect may be possible, Mangini has lost me. It'll only take about another month after that before he loses the team.
Just win, baby. No friggin' excuses.
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You thought you saw that.  I do agree....we need to just start winning. At some point the players have to start taking some of the knocks. They are the ones fumbling on the 10, tossing stupid pick6's at the half, returning kickoffs from 9 yards deep etc., etc. If you are a average player, which we have many, you better find some sort of edge. To me you find that with determination and attitude. You can't look to simply neutralize your guy, you have to be determined to dominate him.
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Start winning..well yeah that cures it for the most part..but I see U and others who want to rush to Gini's defense...I said last year I doubt he's that good of a coach..sure he might shore up areas that Rac was lax in but he shows some of the same weaknesses ..and from what I've heard and read , clock management and use of personnel on offense/playcalling still infect this team like the swine flu..
It's been questioned by those in here and on other boards why wasn't Delmonte pulled and Wallace inserted? Why wasn't Harrison given more carries? This isn't new issues with Harrison,yet he didn't fumble twice like Hillis did.. So I ask whats up with this? Why are these things still a issue? Why isn't the OC using his personnel to their advantage?
Now as far as Delmonte goes..his head is messed up..and it appears he hasn't recovered from last year...if his play went south after the first pick..then he is pressing and not making good decisions..and he may be too fragile and too far gone at this point mentally,I don't know, just speculating.. What I do know,this team should have beaten the Bucks..but gave it to them..
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I have been thinking the same thing. These little BS nicknames get old quick. Two years ago maybe it was funny the first time but to keep on and on using the same old lame a** crap through entire often severely repetative posts is ridiculous. Cartman, Hurtesty, ham sandwich etc. give it a rest it is immature and lame as hell.At least think of some new material once in awhile.
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Calling Mangini "Cartman" is getting old. I don't expect you to stop because I am saying this. You have the freedom to call him Cartman, I have the freedom to say that calling him Cartman is juvenile, annoying, and lessens the weight of anything you say on this message board.
Been sayin the same thing for years now.. thanks Davy but it appears that some of our posters think they are Rome Clones and that it's cool to come up with stupid names for people.. Juvenile is the right word I think...
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It's been questioned by those in here and on other boards why wasn't Delmonte pulled and Wallace inserted?
When you lose lots of things get questioned.. everything in fact...
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Why wasn't Harrison given more carries? This isn't new issues with Harrison,yet he didn't fumble twice like Hillis did..
Harrison didn't have some fumble issues in preseason either did he?
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Now as far as Delmonte goes..his head is messed up..and it appears he hasn't recovered from last year...if his play went south after the first pick..then he is pressing and not making good decisions..
After the first pick he came out in the second half and drove us 70 yards to the 15 with passes of 49 yards and 16 yards before Hillis fumbled... then the wheels came off, not just him but we couldn't run the ball after that, we couldn't do anything.. it's like somebody popped the balloon of the whole damn team, not just Jake.
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Regardless of losing some things still have to be questioned DC..U can't ignore those ,it adds up to the loss.This isn't a team loaded with talent(especially in the skill department) so the margin for error is slim..
Harrison didn't have some fumble issues in preseason either did he?
Now lets address that..because out of the coaches mouth came the line that JH would fix that..so you have to see if it's fixed by using him..the game changers on this team weren't used . We don't have WR's that can stretch the field,thats obvious, but this kid was part of that running game last year..when things started to bog down as U say isn't that the time to start using your gamebreaking threats/packages and try to take advantage of that?
Our downfall was NOT taking advantage of the what we do have. Harrison's speed and nimbleness was needed more than Hillis's straight ahead banging when they were crowding the box. Let Vickers lead for someone with speed and who can manuver.
We needed play action and things 'like' the wildcat to make up for what we clearly didn't have..and I have a bad feeling thats going to rear it's ugly head more than once ...then watch what happens..watch who starts getting involved with the offense..Holmgrem isn't going to let this team sink too far before he puts the gloves on one way or another..and he also has advisors he can send out ..
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