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The first stages of the Affordable Care Act kicked in making it illegal to not cover children with preexisting conditions along with making it possible for kids up to 26 to stay on their parents health coverage among other things. I found this video from the Kaiser Family Foundation that sums up the law and its timelines of events pretty well. LINK If you have time, I HIGHLY recommend perusing the rest of the website. It is really informative and goes into really as much detail as possible. What do you think of the new law overall? Once its effects start to kick in and people start to understand what the law does do you think public opinion will change?
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it possible for kids up to 26 to stay on their parents health coverage among other things.
26 year old "kids". Why not 80?
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The only way I see that to be permissible is if the "kids" are in grad school. Even then, most schools offer health insurance.
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I'm not sure what the current age breakdown is, but I'm pretty sure there already is an extension for college students. I have taken this to mean that this was specifically for "kids" who didn't go to school.
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Is the Henry J. Kaiser Foundation in anyway related to or controlled by Kaiser Permente?
Just wondering...
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I will say this, that is one HELL of a propaganda site. Kudos to them for being so persuasive - even though most of it is misleading.
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The only way I see that to be permissible is if the "kids" are in grad school. Even then, most schools offer health insurance.
I was booted off my parents insurance the last semester I was in school (23). I only had one class to take but was forced to take two, in order to qualify as a half-time student and get some somewhat affordable coverage.
I don't mind the age being 26, especially since there are many who go to the military first, and would not graduate until around that age. I know several who did it that way...
I don't know if this has a stipulation that you must be a student, but in some ways, but in some ways, if it allows someone to have insurance so be it. Most of these folks are healthy anyway and won't even use the coverage.
Hell, having a baby last year we still didn't meet what our insurance premiums were. The whole system is a joke with or without reform. One thing is for sure, it needed to be changed. There is a lot in the reform I don't agree with, a big one being the way that FSA and HSA's were changed. Why take a GREAT tool away from people, or at least make it more limited in use?
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I will say this, that is one HELL of a propaganda site. Kudos to them for being so persuasive - even though most of it is misleading.
well, now you know why I asked if this foundation is at all related to Kaiser Permanate... If it is, then it has more cred... But I question the motives here.
Having just gone through this stuff myself, I can tell you that this over simplifies it... it's not that it isn't factual,, in most regards it is, but they skim over somethings that are more difficult to understand than you can put into a 9 min video...... and they over emphase the tax credit small businesses will receive to lighten the burden on those very same small businesses.. so they giveth and they taketh away... Net change might not amount to a hill of beans.... or it could be crazy. it mostly depends on what things get hung on it between now and 2014 and what other backroom deals are made.
For instance, that rule about insurance companies making only 15%.. back room deal is that they can make that 15% after they paid taxes. All of a sudden, that's not bad..in fact, it's a little similar to the old military COST+ contracts that were awarded to Defense contractors.. (not sure they still do that)
In theory, it could work out,, but then in theory I could grow wings and fly to alaska to shake hands with Sarah Palin.... 
either way, it's not as bad as some make it sound.. but it's certainly not as good as the adminstration says it is.
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I will say this, that is one HELL of a propaganda site. Kudos to them for being so persuasive - even though most of it is misleading.
I have to say I have used this site repeatedly for health care information. I actually find it to be a pretty good site. It has virtually any health care statistic you can think of published, as well as reports on many topics.
In glancing at a few of the reports, I am impressed at their attempt to remain non-partisan. They actually based the few reports I have looked at on accepted scientific and statistical methodology rather than on fitting the study to their ideas. For example, this study highlights a very important potential pitfall of reform: if demand will increase by having more people insured, primary care practitioners may be overwhelmed and more people may seek care at ERs.
http://healthreform.kff.org/scan/2010/se...acute-care.aspx
IMO, if this were purely a propaganda site, they wouldn't publish studies that criticize the law.
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I will say this, that is one HELL of a propaganda site. Kudos to them for being so persuasive - even though most of it is misleading.
Much like the thread title.....nah, I guess the title isn't misleading-it just sucks ass.
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well, now you know why I asked if this foundation is at all related to Kaiser Permanate... If it is, then it has more cred
More cred?
Kaiser and Nixon are the ones responsible for the majority of the problems in the health care industry.
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well, now you know why I asked if this foundation is at all related to Kaiser Permanate... If it is, then it has more cred
More cred?
Kaiser and Nixon are the ones responsible for the majority of the problems in the health care industry.
Yes, more cred than an agenda pushing group..
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