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Not sure how many of you are interested in stuff like this but its a pretty big deal, but they have found a planet outside our solar system inside the habitable zone of its star, where the temperature is just right and could have liquid water. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/09/real-habitable-exoplanet/
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Good deal b/c we've messed this one up enough - let's move so we can start over!  In all seriousness, that is neat though. Wonder if one day we'll travel between planets and/or you can choose where to reside. Maybe the Browns on our 2nd planet will be better than the Browns over here. 
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haha, ya. It's 20 light years away though. So not gonna get there anytime soon. Even if we were able to communicate with alien life there it would take 40 years to received a response.
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Can we have an application process for the move so we can leave the lazy, stupid and violent people behind here?
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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At 20 light years away, if we took the existing space shuttle that goes about 17,500 MPH........it would take 784,391 years to get there. Ouch.
Voyager 1, which was launched in 1977 and STILL working, is flying through the edge of our solar system at 38,185 MPH. If that was going to this "nearby" planet, it would still need about 400,000 years to get there (and it's not pointed in that direction anyway).
20 light years is far. I wonder if a Cleveland sports team will win a title before we set foot on this new planet.
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Yeah, anything meaningful will take place probably after most of us have passed on so maybe our kids or grandkids might have a shot at it.
Still neat though.
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Which Browns - from planet Earth or planet New Earth?
New Earth for sure, have you seen the Browns on Earth?
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it would take 784,391 years to get there.
and STILL not be as old as GMdawg.
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Good deal b/c we've messed this one up enough - let's move so we can start over!
I'm convinced this is the first thought that came to mind for plenty among the powers that be.
Backup plan!
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Good deal b/c we've messed this one up enough - let's move so we can start over!
I'm convinced this is the first thought that came to mind for plenty among the powers that be.
Backup plan!
Start over, why not? Learn from your mistakes, have a clean slate to build everything properly and repeat process till another planet is found.
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At 20 light years away, if we took the existing space shuttle that goes about 17,500 MPH........it would take 784,391 years to get there. Ouch.
Voyager 1, which was launched in 1977 and STILL working, is flying through the edge of our solar system at 38,185 MPH. If that was going to this "nearby" planet, it would still need about 400,000 years to get there (and it's not pointed in that direction anyway).
20 light years is far. I wonder if a Cleveland sports team will win a title before we set foot on this new planet.
I was going to post essentially the same thing. I took an astronomy class in college where the professor essentially popped all of our collective baloons, really put it all in perspective. We are never getting off this rock. The actual distances involved and the reality of linear travel and the nature of light and mass and velocity.. yea, it aint gonna happen. Just totally and utterly crushed that whole star trek fantasy.
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We are never getting off this rock.
Ok, I may have to burst your balloon. While that may be true, there is a very good chance we will, assuming we aren't obliterated before we get the chance.
Technology doubles what, every 1.7 years? Assuming we don't go extinct before then, who knows what we will be capable of in 1 billion years. We have 4-5 before the sun goes, so it's not like we don't have time.
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In 1,000 years we should be able to avert any impending doom, other than a black hole or maybe gamma ray burst. I think in the few thousand years there will be people living on mars, then after that, who knows. I know mars is nothing when it comes to distances to other stars, but we built a radio then 70 years later, we are on the moon. Just saying don't count out the ingenuity of humans.
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If I had to guess ... and this is going to sound crazy ...... but I would guess that travel involving thousands of light years will never be done by spaceship ...... but rather by some sort of matter to energy to matter conversion. Sure it's crazy ..... but so is expecting us to travel at thousands of times the speed of light and survive. Space folding is an interesting concept as well ...... but it kinda blows my mind.
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and STILL not be as old as GMdawg.
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If I had to guess ... and this is going to sound crazy ...... but I would guess that travel involving thousands of light years will never be done by spaceship ...... but rather by some sort of matter to energy to matter conversion.
Sure it's crazy ..... but so is expecting us to travel at thousands of times the speed of light and survive.
Space folding is an interesting concept as well ...... but it kinda blows my mind.
Exactly, it won't take over 100 years to come up with that technology..i'm an optimist! i think we will come up with some sort of worm hole technology that will enable us to travel FAR FAR way in little ot no time
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Yeah...wormhole... Didn't any of you see Contact? 
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Just 100 years ago, I think the fastest a Human could go was about 80 mph.
We have already built one spacecraft using a LightSail, and this tech could get us to 10% of light speed right now, today. The acceleration is very slow but continuous.
Some of us may see, in our lifetimes, absolute proof of biological processes on other worlds, or even actual communication with intelligence. There was another thread about a UN ambassador to ETs, but Somebody needs to be thinking about what we should be prepared to say.
Think about it. Say you got 30 seconds to talk to a alien civilization, with the answer coming back in 40 years. "Hello? Do you eat Bratwurst? Have you figured out cold fusion? Have you figured out women? What is the meaning of life?" A greeting could be a deadly insult, they might think bratwurst is God, they might think we want to start a war, they may not have females, they may think that we're too stupid to live.
From what I have read, what we would actually send is something like " beep-beep plus beep-beep equals beep-beep-beep-beep" and go on from there.
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I was going to post essentially the same thing. I took an astronomy class in college where the professor essentially popped all of our collective baloons, really put it all in perspective. We are never getting off this rock. The actual distances involved and the reality of linear travel and the nature of light and mass and velocity.. yea, it aint gonna happen. Just totally and utterly crushed that whole star trek fantasy.
Just curious what your professor said about linear travel, and the nature of light, etc? I've heard some of the theories about "faster than light travel" where people will jump forward in time, but I'm not sure I buy that. Just because you can get somewhere faster than the energy you emitted will get there, doesn't necessarily mean that you're going jump forward in time. I think scientists are just making guesses at stuff that they've never experienced ... if science has proven anything, it's that scientists of years past were always wrong.
The problem with faster than light travel right now, is our methods of propulsion. They're all based on Newton's third law (action/reaction) ... which means ideally, the fastest we could travel is only HALF of the speed of the fastest thing known ... energy/light. The solution is to find something that travels faster than energy ... or reinvent the wheel and come up with a new method of propulsion.
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Here is what I think is a more likely (feasible) scenario. I think scientist will find away of first sending probes ahead, basically an advanced party. For the purpose of trying to make contact with any possible intelligent life form(s) and also to collect data that would be transferred to the following Space Laboratories computers. Laboratories designed to reproduce life. Modern day Noah's Ark(s)Included on board will be the DNA of Humans, other animals (including pets), plants and even insects like bees for pollen nation of vegetables. There would be a need for robotic parents to raze and educate the clones. Once our scientist unlock the code and keys to dna. These clones would be virtually resistant to any of our Earths viruses/germs and therefore would not contaminate the host planets environment. Data collected of the host planets environment could be used to structure (switches) the dna to be cloned once the vessels have landed, to be resistant to the germs found on the host planet. Clones will be selected from genes of specific purpose, such as..... Sex, Doctors, Educators, Engineers, Musicians and so on. Time will be irrelevant
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Unfortunately as much as I would love to see us going there, its not gonna happen for a looooooooong time. I mean, quite a while, barring some crazy unexepected accidental break through.
The amount of energy required to manipulate space-time to create a stable worm hole, or to shrink/expand space around a ship (warp drive) is huge. We could not hope to do it by any means of technology we have.
The most probable way to get there would be some sort of ion engine that is slowly but continually accelerating a ship towards the planet. Eventually reaching around .5c (optimistically) to get there in a little over 40 years depending on how long it takes us to get to .5c.
But the bright side, is that the faster you go the slower time passes for you. So in the ship it would feel less that 40 years while they travel there even though it will seem to be more than 40 for us here on Earth. But thats relativity and a whole other deal.
Anyway, that is even further away considering the state of NASA and its funding. Any major break throughs will probably come through private aerospace companies like Space X and others. Maybe we will see some advancements when they realize how much money there is to be made in minding asteroids.
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Ok, I may have to burst your balloon. While that may be true, there is a very good chance we will, assuming we aren't obliterated before we get the chance.
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