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Just clicking

I wonder how many receivers are going to hear footsteps when Ward is near them?

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I wonder how many $ Ward will see when he nears them?

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I don't know if he'll care....

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I compare it more to an accidental face mask.

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Ehh, when's the last time someone got a concussion from an accidental face mask?

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I hope he doesn't care.. and just does like Gini wants him to. Play within the rules.

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within the rules,,, and play tough as well....

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pretty sure tj's quote after the game was "i would do it again"

love it. maybe slightly better timing and you won't get flagged.

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Can't believe this crap. There is a clear double standard in this league. Baffling how Suh's hit on Delhomme can land a 7k fine, while Ward's hit on Shipley lands him 15k. How does intent not factor into this at all? Suh was clearly trying to hurt Delhomme, while Ward was making a play ON THE BALL. Just does not make sense at all.

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Suh's fine was only $5k, not $7k.

The difference is that Suh is a Top 10 pick in this year's draft and Ward was a 2nd rounder. Suh is a "star", Ward is not (yet).
The media glossed over Suh's attack, yet feigned outrage at Ward's... so the NFL follows suit.

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j/c .... I saw some of the comments on the ESPN board. Best one was:

If I was Ward, I'd hand the Commish $60,000 and say, "This is for the next 5!" ... then hand him a box of tampons.

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Nice
I would love to see Ward send TO a box.

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just Clickin,
Man, this whole board is amazing to me. We have watched years of sorry tackling, non-hitting, no repercussion Browns Defensive players line up and play tag with opponents and WE FINALLY have someone that wants to hit.. and Browns fans are debating hitting. PLEASE...

Those Browns fans who are complaining must not have seen Felix Wright, Dixon and Minnefield play. One time, they knocked out C. Collinsworth, in Cincinnati, stood over him and barked!! Man, please, if that hit would have been laid by T.Polamalu, everyone would have been praising the hit!!! If you look at the pattern that was run, it led the receiver RIGHT TO WARD. Hell, if the receiver catches the ball, most people would have been questioning why he didn't hit him!

Like the players say, this is a collision sport, not a contact sport. And next time, the rest of the Browns should SMACK Carson Palmer for coming into Wards face and saying anything!

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"Probably 90 percent of his players don't like him [Mangini] anyway. "I don't like him. We got to see him again anyway, so we'll see who's going to do some cheap shots next game.

"Hit me like that."

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And thus begins the great Dawg/Kitten Blood Feud.

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Hmmm Daman..that's a good question. Can anyone clarify a Roger Goodell E-mail address? I also asked if TO was going to get a fine for talking about who is going to get cheap shotted next time and commented on that tool Mike Perria or whatever his name is and his comment that TJ Ward needs to be hit hard.. I hope it went to the right place..

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Rick,

Unnecessary roughness was correctly called on that hit. Ward made helmet-to-helmet contact with a defenseless receiver, a clear violation of our playing rules.

You may distribute the following email address to your friends: your.comments@nfl.com.


As for Mike Pereira’s comments, he’s no longer an NFL employee. Those feelings should be shared with FOX.

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How much would he be in the know in terms of this situation or is this just his opinion and he happens to work for the NFL? I ask because it would be interesting to see if the NFL defined this as helmet to helmet contact. Sure their helmets might have grazed each other but to me it was clearly shoulder to helmet.

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Ward delivers hard hits
By Matt Florjancic, ClevelandBrowns.com Staff Writer

Posted 17 hours ago

aaRookie safety T.J. Ward is not going to change his style of play, despite criticism from Sunday's hit on Bengals receiver Jordan Shipley.
In his first two games as a member of the Cleveland Browns, rookie safety T.J. Ward led the team in tackles. Through the first four games of the year, Ward has a team-best 32 total tackles and 24 solo stops, along with one pass break-up and a forced fumble.

He is tied with fellow rookie defensive back Joe Haden for second on the team with four special teams tackles.

Though he has made solid plays for the Browns since being drafted out of the University of Oregon, Ward gained the attention of officials and others with a hard hit on wide receiver Jordan Shipley in the team’s 23-20 win over the Cincinnati Bengals last Sunday. The hit was flagged for unnecessary roughness and knocked Shipley out of the game.

“I just want to everybody to know it wasn’t intentional or to knock him out or to get him hurt,” Ward told the media Wednesday. “It’s part of the game; I just reacted to what I saw.

“The way it happened, I didn’t really try to hit him with everything I had, but still, it was a pretty violent hit,” he added about what he saw on film. “I wasn’t trying to aim for his helmet. I just saw what I saw. It all happened so fast.”

Ward drew immediate criticism from the Bengals and others, but his teammate, Colt McCoy spoke in support of him. McCoy had an interesting perspective Sunday. He and Shipley were teammates and roommates at The University of Texas.

“I didn’t see anything wrong with it. It’s just football,” McCoy said. “Things like that are going to happen. Obviously, you don’t want anybody to get hurt, but it’s just how it played out. I don’t think T.J. knew the ball was already on the ground. He can’t see it from that angle and was trying to make a play. I thought it was a great play.

“Jordan knows; he’s played receiver his whole life,” added McCoy. “There’s a chance when you go across the middle that you’re going to have to take a big shot, a big lick and he got one.”

While Ward did not intend to knock Shipley out of the game, he also does not plan on taking anything away from his hard-hitting approach to the game.

“That’s been my M.O. (Modus Operandi) since college,” Ward said. “I’m known as a big hitter, but I’ve never been called a cheap shot throughout my four years in college. Now, I’m kind of getting labeled as a cheap player or a dirty player. It’s kind of surprising.

“It’s the nature of the game, so no, I’m not going to change the way I play. It’s instincts,” he concluded. “You can’t really stop doing what comes naturally.”

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