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One of the things I haven't seen played up regarding Colt's play last Sunday was that he prsobably was not playing with all of the play book. My guess is that he was pretty limited in what he could call or do in check-offs. When he is allowed to really play qb, I think he will be even better than he was last Sunday.




Colt, like all of the QB's have their 'own' play book, that's not to say new plays can't be incorporated into his book, but I am pretty sure he was given his whole play book.
Whether or not they use all of the plays on any given week is because of the 'game plan' .

I thought Colt did a good job in getting the offense called and did not lose 5 yards due to the clock.

They even gave him a small no huddle series too.

As a coach you have to see a player in action to know what they are doing best, what they could do to improve and how much they can handle.

Colt lacks experience, but he is still expected to do his job and the more he does the better the Coach's can evaluate how best to use him.


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No, of course not. I just wouldn't be working. Just like I wouldn't be playing unless it was in Cleveland. Period.

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So by your logic ...

... if you applied to work for Chase Bank, and Chase said 'you're hired, one of our branches in Birmingham has a spot open' ... and you said 'I'd rather work out of Miami' ... and they came back and said 'Birmingham's where we've placed you, take it or leave it.'

... you find that a violation of your First Amendment rights?




Just think of it as preventing monopolies and pushing for oligopolies ...

The NFL franchises competing against each other aren't in a capitalistic state either (see the salary cap in every year but this, free agency rules, etc.)

Besides ... its way better this way then having what is the MLB policy ... good god I would move to another country if it became the Pittsburgh or Baltimore Yankees ... if you know what Im saying ..


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I still don't understand how that violates the First Amendment in any way?

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One of the things I haven't seen played up regarding Colt's play last Sunday was that he prsobably was not playing with all of the play book. My guess is that he was pretty limited in what he could call or do in check-offs. When he is allowed to really play qb, I think he will be even better than he was last Sunday.




It has been brought up by someone,, Can't remember,,, maybe Django or Attack.. Not sure.

And I don't understand that thinking. McCoy has been here as long as Delhomme and Wallace and he's been here for all the meetings, OTA's, Mini camps, training camp and preseason games and all the prep for all those games as well as all the games during the regular season.

Granted, he may not have had the opportunity to practice everything in the playbook, but he should at least be familiar with it.


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I still don't understand how that violates the First Amendment in any way?



I don't either.. if you don't want to enter the draft and give up your own ability to decide where you work then don't enter the draft.... go be a teacher or an accountant or a mechanic, then you can work where ever you want.

And a better analogy than working at a bank that Ooorah will get is the US Military.. evidently signing up for the military is unconstitutional because they are going to put you where they need you. After you have been in for a while you can make requests and possibly get what you want but at first, you are at their mercy.. it's just like an NFL player who is drafted then eventually can use free agency to go where he wants if that is his desire..

So if entering the NFL draft violates the constitution, then so does joining the military.


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Completely different. When you voluntarily join, you know you're going to give up any real choice you have in geographic assignment, sometimes even in job selection. Happened to me a hundred times. I never complained.

With the almighty draft, a team gets to exercise it's "rights" and the individual's rights are cast aside.

My position on the NFL Draft is that it violates the right to a choice. If I were talented enough to have been drafted, I would not have played anywhere but Cleveland. That's all I'm saying.

Concerning my poor interpretation of the First Amendment as my " Right to Choose " I freely admit I can be legally wrong on that, and still be morally correct. I guess I just wouldn't have ever played in the NFL. Certainly for the 2 years my rights were viloated while I waited out the grace period -- I believe it's two years; might only be one,....

You guys easily forget this is exactly why Bernie Kosar manipulated the completion date of his undergrad work.

Again, I just won't be surprised when Player A says he ain't going to Team B when the money is the same. And has been pointed out, other players have successfully exercised their right to do "otherwise."

Not a real argument and I don't intend to sway opinion. It's just me.

Also, my apologies to the purists who get all bent out of shape when a thread gets sidetracked.

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We are on page 8.. has any thread ever still been on the same topic by page 8?

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Completely different. When you voluntarily join, you know you're going to give up any real choice you have in geographic assignment, sometimes even in job selection. Happened to me a hundred times. I never complained.



See you say it is completely different but then give the reason why it is not different.. you voluntarily join the military, you voluntarily join the NFL and you go in knowing how the system works...

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If I were talented enough to have been drafted, I would not have played anywhere but Cleveland. That's all I'm saying.




As silly as I think that is, it would have been your choice, which is fine.. choosing to NOT PLAY as compared to choosign who you get to play for is completely different.. under no circumstances should rookies get to choose who they sign their first contract with (except the marginally talented undrafted ones)..

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Concerning my poor interpretation of the First Amendment as my " Right to Choose " I freely admit I can be legally wrong on that, and still be morally correct.



I'm just curious which part it violates....

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




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You guys easily forget this is exactly why Bernie Kosar manipulated the completion date of his undergrad work.




And John Elway and Eli Manning and others have been more flagrant about not wanting to play for certain teams.. if you are a top draft pick sometimes you can get away with it.. most cannot..


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This thread has gotten pretty off topic.

I'm going to lock it, and if someone wants to start a new thread on Colt McCoy, that's fine.

Otherwise, keep the First Amendment talk in the Tailgate Lot.

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