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Hilarious when the announcer said "LeBron is 2-7, picking up right where he left off last year". 
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I know its not gonna last, but I think its hilarious just how inept Miami looks right now. Dwyane Wade got chumped by Marquis freaking Daniels.
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that team has no depth at all. i mean none. those 3 will have to play out of their minds just to get to the ecf.
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that team has no depth at all. i mean none. those 3 will have to play out of their minds just to get to the ecf.
Which makes it all that much funnier to think about how LeBron said that that was the good thing about teaming up with Bosh and Wade...that none of them would have to play more than 30-some minutes a night.
Edit: I was seriously just prepared to go grab a towel to clean up my couch if Nate Robinson would've dunked over LeBron right there.
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Say it with me...LeBron West.
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When Wade and Bosh are on the bench and LeBron is on the court, he's playing with a worse team than he would've in Cleveland.
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When just Wade is on the bench, LeBron is playing with a worse team. Seriously, the only decent piece outside of those three is Haslem, and he's not that good. Arroyo, Chalmers, Anthony, Jones...all just there to take up space and pass the ball to one of the Me Egos. Both teams have their fair share of old players, but the difference between the old players on the Celtics and the old players on the Heat is that the ones on the Celtics will all be in the HoF 10 years from now.
Even with Wade and/or Bosh on the court, their offense is just like in Cleveland...watch LeBron pound the ball and put up a shot or pass at the last second. ALL of their scoring has come in transition following Boston TOs.
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Miami cuts the lead to six points after three, and the lineup is James + scrubs. Might as well be the Cavs out there. Wade and Bosh on the bench, Z, James Jones, Udonis Haslem and Eddie House on the floor.
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never thought I'd cheer for Boston before... went to BWW for some wings tonight and totally forgot this game was on tonight... happy to see Miami losing.
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Celtics hold on to the win. This should deflate the Heat's ego quite a bit.
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No it won't. But it does show their weaknesses and can get the media off the 82-0 kick, lol.
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Don't know you know its all just because Dwyane Wade is rusty?
Seriously though, that Miami team is going to have to figure a lot of stuff out if they hope to challenge for a title. They looked awful tonight. The only time they were productive was with Wade and Bosh on the bench and LeBron doing the exact same thing he did here in Cleveland.
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I dont care what these guys have said about coexisting, LBJ getting his 31 and the other two 10+ nightly will not bring harmony to this giant ego filled balloon!!!
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Heat fans are already blaming the loss on not having Mike Miller, as if he's missing a game or two, not half of the season.
Pundits are already saying that LeBron needs to play the point because Carlos Arroyo stinks.
LeBron is saying "Rome wasn't built in a day" but you know he's thinking "that wasn't what I signed up for".
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j/c Had to post this: http://www.cleveland.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/10/depite_31_points_from_lebron_j.htmlQuote from article: ""It's a feel-out process," James said. "When you have so many options, it's something I'm not accustomed to, having that many threats out on the court at the same time." This is the stupidest comment I have ever heard. So his problem was he couldn't decide where to pass it, so he passed 8 turnovers to the Celtics? He was baffled by having too many options? Nothing to do with the Celtics D? Yeah that is always a big problem, too many options. Not a perfect analogy, but how many times do you hear QBs say "I had too many good WRs out there; I just didn't know where to throw it." So many options? Like Joel Anthony, James Jones, and Carlos Arroyo? The Heat looked best when Wade and Bosh were on the bench, and LeBron pounded the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock; sound familiar to anyone? Even when these three get it going together later in the season (they will eventually), the Heat got punished on the low block 38-24 points in the paint. It's gonna be tough going in the playoffs when they have to go through Boston's bigs, Orlando's bigs, and, if they make it to the Finals, the two 7-footers of Gasol and Bynum. The Heat ran some sets with Bosh at the 5; they simply won't be able to do that against the top flight teams. Bosh is not a tough enough defender on the block. Mike Brown told him this for years, but LeBron really does need to develop that low post game if he wants his team to win in the playoffs. He tried it a few times last night, and it looked extremely awkward. Wonder if he will listen to Erik Spoelstra, who undoubtedly will be saying the same thing? Sorry for the rant, and I know it's purely spiteful on my part, but I really did enjoy watching the Heat get beat last night.
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Pundits are already saying that LeBron needs to play the point because Carlos Arroyo stinks.
LeBron is saying "Rome wasn't built in a day" but you know he's thinking "that wasn't what I signed up for".
anytime you blame a loss on not having mike miller, you're in deep deep trouble.
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Names? I'll track them down myself. Saw one from Kevin Arnovitz last night I liked.
I have a feeling that Dwight Howard is going to do some abusing on the low block Friday night.
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You can still name drop. 
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the real question is if Miami can trade for a big man. i think they've already used up all their chips, and if so, they aren't going to be able to win many games like last night where it gets scrappy and the paint is where the game will be won.
Boston has serious depth in the paint and Orlando has a certain someone who is that depth all by himself. Going to be interesting, but we have to wait 5 months for that.
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yeah, and think about this. boston didn't even have perk out there.he's gone til february.
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What kills me about this entire thing is that the Cavs finally have the right coach and the right offense for Lebron. Up tempo offense and take no BS coach who could push Lebron to be the greatest player of all time. Too bad.
One day, long after he's retired and no one can recognize him because he's so gray and wrinkled, he'll be able to look back on all this honestly and clearly, and he'll realize he made the biggest mistake of his life.
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j/c Interesting article here by Adrian Wojnawroski - whoever he is. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhU_jpU68enrq_aDxz2YzvK8vLYF?slug=aw-heatceltics102710Good read. But, I especially found this part interesting - it was after the writer detailed some of the special treatment james got in cleveland: "The Heat are telling him simply: Stay in line. After a preseason game in New Orleans, a league source said, James was chatting with Chris Paul(notes) outside the locker room and decided that he wanted to hit the town with the Hornets star. The Heat’s charter planned to fly home that night, but James suggested to Wade that perhaps they ought to ask Spoelstra about leaving in the morning to return home. James could always do this in Cleveland, but Wade wanted no part of seeking permission. James did, and the message the coach delivered was unmistakable: Get on the plane; we’re going home. The Heat are telling him simply: Stay in line. After a preseason game in New Orleans, a league source said, James was chatting with Chris Paul(notes) outside the locker room and decided that he wanted to hit the town with the Hornets star. The Heat’s charter planned to fly home that night, but James suggested to Wade that perhaps they ought to ask Spoelstra about leaving in the morning to return home. James could always do this in Cleveland, but Wade wanted no part of seeking permission. James did, and the message the coach delivered was unmistakable: Get on the plane; we’re going home. There's more interesting stuff that I wasn't aware of.
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i read that today, i was more shocked by the story about lebron storming off the court in practice because of cavs coaches being tough, and apparently that not being the first time.
i know a lot of people blame the cavs for allowing lebron to do what apparently miami is not going to put up with. enabling is the term being thrown around. but you can't completely blame the cavs. what leverage do they hold? everyone in the world knew lebron had them hostage. the cavs did about everything they could. they made the best moves they could make. they did everything for him. i don't think you can really fault them that much for "enabling"
i know one thing, the next superstar that comes into cleveland won't get that treatment. no way does dan gilbert allow that to happen again. the lebron thing is their leverage now.
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Well, let me preface this with IF: IF the story is true about him storming off the court because his word wasn't bowed down to, the guy has a problem. He wasn't the coach.
IF he thought he was big enough to convince the Heat to delay the plane until the following morning - dude has a serious ego problem. Serious.
Sorry, leblown - life isn't about you. Perhaps you should shove your ego aside and start winning games.
One loss is nothing, I understand. However, he's got to know that 90% of NBA fans are against him. Aside from a few here and there, his only fans are the Heat fans. They expect a championship this year. Not next. This year. He and bosh and wade better deliver, or there will be "heat" felt.
He put himself in this position, and it was his right to do so. But he needs to know that things are expected of that team - much, much, is expected from that team. And, apparently, being part of the team is part of it. We'll see how he handles it.
Funny thing is, he's in a no win situation. If they win all their games, blow people out in the playoffs, etc, come home with the trophy - all he gets is "it was expected". If they win big, over and over and over, yet trip up in the playoffs, he gets "that's not what you were brought here for".
Hope he's happy down in miami - while his "family" is up in akron/cleveland. Gotta love the family when you up and move and don't take them with you, right?
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I don't think those three in Miami realize that if they don't win it all this year, they're going to be viewed as failures. They're all talking about "Rome wasn't built in a day" and it being "a work in progress", but make no mistake, that team was assembled to win immediately, not take a year or two to gel and get the pieces in place. It's put up or shut up for them
I also don't think they should get used to get 30 points a night from their bench.
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I still think they will be 1 or 2 in the East. Remember the Celtics wooped the Cavs last year on opening day if I remember correctly and the Cavs still got the #1 seed.
But I don't think Miami is deep enough to win 16 in the post season. The question is going to be will some more vets over the next few years be willing to take league minimum to play there for a chance at a ring or go elsewhere make more and still have a chance at a ring? (Chicago, New York, New Jersey, Lakers, Celtics will all be trying to add peices and have core players they are building around.)
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A lot of it is going to have to do with what the new CBA looks like, so that's going to pretty tough to predict. I don't think the Heat will get the 1 seed because I don't think they'll win their division. That could still give them the 2 seed, assuming they finished ahead of the teams that win the Atlantic and Central divisions (currently, the Cavs are 1st in the Central and tied for #1 overall in the East ). If Miami doesn't win it all this year, and I don't think they will, I wonder what it will do for what has all the makings of becoming a fad of joining up of players to form so-called superpowers. If Boston or the Lakers win it all this year, then I don't think it does much, but if a team like the Thunder or Magic won the title, I think some people might take a step back and say to themselves, "those three joined up in Miami and still couldn't get it done...what is different in my case?". That could be somewhat of a dissuasion. Let's face it, if other superteams are put together, the purpose is to win it all in the very short term. It's like assembling the Olympic teams. They're not put together to gel and grow and develop chemistry together. They're put together to win a medal now. LeBron and Chris Bosh didn't go to Miami thinking "maybe in a year or two will have the pieces in place to make a run at a title". But they bigger they are, the harder they fall, so if Miami doesn't win the title this year, they're going to be stuck trying to answer a litany of questions that they're not gonna want to hear.
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Saw this gem of a quote over at ESPN: "I've been booed my whole NBA career," James said. "They boo you because they love the way you play basketball."
No, LeBron, they boo you because you're an ass. It must be nice to live in your own little world where even outward displays of hate are, in fact, secret expressions of respect. Unfortunately, most of us have at least a tenuous grip on reality.
Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=301027020
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Saw this gem of a quote over at ESPN: "I've been booed my whole NBA career," James said. "They boo you because they love the way you play basketball."
No, LeBron, they boo you because you're an ass. It must be nice to live in your own little world where even outward displays of hate are, in fact, secret expressions of respect. Unfortunately, most of us have at least a tenuous grip on reality.
Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=301027020
He wasn't booed in Cleveland., not sure what the hell he's talking about..
On a side note,, Karma is alive and well isn't it.. The celtics beat the heat and we beat the celtics.. it's fate I tell you,, Fate....
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at this point, I'm thinking the Magic have the best shot at the #1 seed (younger roster than Boston, more depth than Miami, been together before).
I'm hoping Boston pulls the #2 seed, but as long as Boston/Miami are 2/3 in some order, that will be fine. It'd be tough for Miami to get through Boston & Orlando & Lakers/Thunder/Jazz in their first postseason together.
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i think orlando gets out this year.
i think the celtics will be too depleted/tired at the end of the year, i think miami doesn't have the size to defend either boston or orlando, leaving the magic as really the logical team for me.
but the problem is they rely on outside shooting too much and outside shooting comes and goes, if they hit their stride though, i don't think anyone can match them in the east.
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Well, let me preface this with IF: IF the story is true about him storming off the court because his word wasn't bowed down to, the guy has a problem. He wasn't the coach.
IF he thought he was big enough to convince the Heat to delay the plane until the following morning - dude has a serious ego problem. Serious.
Sorry, leblown - life isn't about you. Perhaps you should shove your ego aside and start winning games.
One loss is nothing, I understand. However, he's got to know that 90% of NBA fans are against him. Aside from a few here and there, his only fans are the Heat fans. They expect a championship this year. Not next. This year. He and bosh and wade better deliver, or there will be "heat" felt.
He put himself in this position, and it was his right to do so. But he needs to know that things are expected of that team - much, much, is expected from that team. And, apparently, being part of the team is part of it. We'll see how he handles it.
Funny thing is, he's in a no win situation. If they win all their games, blow people out in the playoffs, etc, come home with the trophy - all he gets is "it was expected". If they win big, over and over and over, yet trip up in the playoffs, he gets "that's not what you were brought here for".
Hope he's happy down in miami - while his "family" is up in akron/cleveland. Gotta love the family when you up and move and don't take them with you, right?
i agree.
and the more i read stuff like this the more i think mike brown probably wasn't that bad of a coach. the 1v4 aka stanky leg aka lebron and 4 offense probably was more lebron holding the ball and not listening to coach than it was mike brown not having a good offensive plan.
but still, i think byron scott is a better fit, he's been there, he's done that, he's played in and coached in multiple finals. nobody could ever treat him the way some treated mike brown (heard shaq was the same)
the other thing you said about only miami fans liking him.. don't forget this.
when the cavs lose, the fans are mad, they are passionate. same with the browns. the fans wear it.
in miami? guess what, if you don't win? they don't care. he's playing in one of the biggest bandwagon markets in the country. those people will jump ship faster than you can say you're taking your talents to the next best team.
they couldn't even draw a decent crowd the last few years, when yes, they weren't true contenders but still had a top 10 player in the league, are you kidding me?
and when you're trying to market yourself and your own fans don't care? good luck with your brand.
there will come a day when he realizes it wasn't all that bad in cleveland.
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Watching DRose play last night, I have to wonder why in the world LBJ didn't want to play with him instead. Such a better fit.
I can't fathom ANY defensive scheme that could properly double-team Rose driving to the hoop while LBJ slashes to the lane.
But...whatever. Go Cavs!
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Watching DRose play last night, I have to wonder why in the world LBJ didn't want to play with him instead. Such a better fit.
I can't fathom ANY defensive scheme that could properly double-team Rose driving to the hoop while LBJ slashes to the lane.
But...whatever. Go Cavs!
DRose would have the ball in his hands most of the time. I doubt lebron wanted to play with him.
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d-rose didn't want him there, at least that is what the word is around here. apparently rose never talked to lebron at any point from the end of the cavs playoff run up until july 8th. (despite rumors of lbj calling him and househunting) chicago was never an option.
i think d-rose wants this to be his team and knows that if lebron came here he'd be on the backburner.
and i agree, rose can't play off the ball, neither can lebron (even though i think he can and should) it wouldn't have been that great of a match.
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