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He can go on television and announce that he's taking his talents to South Beach. 
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That being said, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would really fit into our new "team first" approach.
I don't know about that,, he just spent several productive years in NE and they take the "team first" approach.. He didn't have any issues up there..
Could be because he felt he'd get a ring up there.. so he kept quiet.. but he's not the first "bad boy' to go there and stay clean.
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How is Cincinnati lower than us on the waiver wire?
Same record and we beat them... hence we're higher than they are....
so shouldn't they be higher than us? The worst teams get the first crack, and if we have the same record as cin and we beat them head to head, shouldn't they be considered the worse team?
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I don't think that head to head matters.
Strength of schedule, IIRC, does.
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He is taking his talents to South Beach!!!
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You know..he probably would have been ok up there if they were loose and having fun..but can you imagine what it must be like to go to work in Minnesota right now..the team is playing bad, and you have the all Favre all the time drama going on..must be a tense locker room. I blame it on Favre..
I don't think he will end up here..probably end up in Dallas..trying to save their soul. Their receivers are dropping balls like Edwards. Not sure how many teams want to take that contract on unless they feel he can help them down the stretch. Throw him the ball 8 times a game and he is happy. We hit all our receivers combined for less than that.
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He's not going to end up in Dallas. Their season is basically over and they already have Austin, Williams, Bryant and Witten. Taking on that salary would be crazy for a team in their position.
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Moss hasn't been officially waived by the Vikings and is not on the official waiver list sent out by the league.
Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The shake up of the vikes might be just starting. Supposedly the players are furious about this impending release. I can't think of a quicker way to lose a locker room. Harvin is really upset. Not one viking player is saying anything bad about Moss.
Personally, i think the vikes should keep Moss and fire Childress.
The front office is also split on this as well. This is absolutely crazy. Can't imagine burning a third round pick like this.
This is a no win situation for Childress, he just burned his own bridge. Watch this team quit on him.
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One Viking is probably happy about all this, Favre. For the first time in weeks the lead story out of Minnesota isn't about Favre sending a pic of his package to the bimbo of the week.
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New York, get ready for Randy Posted by Mike Florio on November 1, 2010 5:20 PM ET Rosenthal officially commenced the speculation regarding the next destination of Randy Moss. But I don't need three guesses. Though one of the teams with a record worse than 5-2 may try to squat on Moss, I firmly believe that the New York Jets will make a claim for his services. The Jets will be motivated by a desire to keep Moss from returning to the Patriots, and by an interest in sticking it to the Pats by winning with one of their castoffs (see Danny Woodhead). Also, Moss may be better than Braylon Edwards or Santonio Holmes. Neither has done all that much this year, and both made relatively small contributions on Sunday against the Packers. Then there's the Rex Ryan-Mike Tannenbaum willingness to bring in big-name players whom others have doubted and to use that external doubt to light a fire under their asses. Guys like Antontio Cromartie and LaDainian Tomlinson were believed to be washed up elsewhere; they're now key contributors in New York. Of course, the possibility that the Jets would claim Moss could make the Dolphins (one of Rosenthal's projected destinations) even more likely to make a claim for Moss, since it would keep him from both of their AFC East rivals. It also would reunite him with former Marshall quarterback Chad Pennington, perhaps a guy who can keep Moss from becoming a problem. We're also intrigued by the slim possibility that the Browns, who play the Pats and Jets in the next two weekends, would consider bringing Moss to town. It's highly unlikely, but in a weird sort of way it would make a little bit of sense.
Regardless, first Moss must officially be waived. As Jay Glazer has reported, it hasn't happened yet. web page
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Moss is a head case of the worst variety ... far worse than T.O. (I've never seen T.O. flat out quit) ... so all bets are off ...
... but I'd be willing to bet he plays tough wherever he ends up ... 34 and looking for a new deal ... and he's just DESTROYED himself in that regard ...
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I see two teams in particular I think would go after him..
1) Denver Broncos
2) Detroit Lions
Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss?? WOW!! W/ Matthew Stafford's cannon.. WOW!!!
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I seriously doubt that Moss drops to the Browns as a team that feels they "must have him" for a playoff run, say the Jets/Patriots (for example) might make a deal with the Bills to take him then deal Moss to the Jets/Patriots (for example).
IMO, I would not like to see Moss in a Browns uniform as he is too much of a head case/pain in the butt. If the Browns could take him and deal him ASAP, that would be great.
To be clear, I have not researched the league rules on picking someone off the waiver wire and then trading them...there could be language that prohibits such a transaction.
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This is essentially a free-agent process where he is choosing between which teams he wants to play for. The waiver process "technically" applies, but he is going to veto any team he doesn't want to go to.
A team simply can't just grab him and say "you're playing here!"...He'd just raise a stink and refuse to play if someone like Buffalo or Cleveland picked him up.
He'll be happier and more productive on a playoff caliber team. He's a future hall of fame receiver..why would he tolerate being on a sub 500 team in what might be his last season.
My guess would be going back to the Patriots. I give a 0% chance of him cooperating with any non-playoff caliber teams.
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This is essentially a free-agent process where he is choosing between which teams he wants to play for. The waiver process "technically" applies, but he is going to veto any team he doesn't want to go to.
A team simply can't just grab him and say "you're playing here!"...He'd just raise a stink and refuse to play if someone like Buffalo or Cleveland picked him up.
He'll be happier and more productive on a playoff caliber team. He's a future hall of fame receiver..why would he tolerate being on a sub 500 team in what might be his last season.
My guess would be going back to the Patriots. I give a 0% chance of him cooperating with any non-playoff caliber teams.
Actually yes they can just grab him and while he's free to sit out the rest of the year he'd be forfeiting his compensation to the tune of 6.9 million.
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Any GM who wants to pick up an uncooperative Randy Moss should be fired on the spot.
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If he went to NE he would be going to a team who initially got him for a 4th, let him go for a 3rd and then signed him back for nothing.
I never really understood the reason he was traded by NE to the Vikes in the first place.
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I don't understand why anyone would not want Randy Moss...even right now he is the downside of his career, however if he came here he would be the best receiver this team has had since Paul Warfield.
also, I just "love" how people call Randy Moss a "headcase"...lets be realistic here....us fans really don't know jack squat about Randy moss, isn't anyone on this forum that really knows Randy Moss....Moss flipped out in viking land the first time around because he didn't like losing...i call that being competitive not being a head case...the guy isn't a loser...that is the kind of players you want.
no one gets along with Al Davis anymore as senile as he is so thats a moot point.
Bellichik had great things to say about Moss..the ONLY reason Moss was traded was because of money...Kraft didn't want to pay him what he was worth...the Pats trading Moss had ZERO percent to do with anything in the lockeroom...it was about them not willing to pay Randy what he want...it was purely a business decision.
We should bring Moss in pronto if we can...he could possibly turn our season around for us...The guy is a playmaker and opens everything else up for everyone...our run game will be better, and our passing game will be better...Randy Moss makes plays.
I don't understand why it seems people don't want playmakers..I don't care if Randy Moss is cocky or not as long as he catches the balls thrown his way and scores TD who gives a damn...really....
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I give a 0% chance of him cooperating with any non-playoff caliber teams.
He has zero leverage to do so. Zero.
34, looking for one last contract ... and you honestly think he's going to sit out the season?
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Nobody can control Randy's ego
Actually Randy under Chris Carter was fine, TO under Jerry Rice was fine.
With that said I dont think anyone short of Manning or Brady has enough clout to tame Randy. The people he respected and looked up to in this game are long gone.
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I believe the trading deadline has already come and gone.
Right, any team wanting to sign him and trade him would have to place him back on waivers before being able to trade him.
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i call that being competitive not being a head case...the guy isn't a loser...that is the kind of players you want.
I have never in my entire life, in any sport, seen any player quit like Randy Moss quit on the Raiders ... we're talking jogging routes.
And he most certainly is a head case ... I don't necessarily mean that negatively ... but the evidence speaks for itself ... dude has mental issues ... again, that's not a knock ... good people have mental problems.
With all that said ... I agree with you on the fact that I'd take him in a heartbeat as an 11 game rental ... dude is auditioning for a contract ... he's backed himself into a corner ... he'll play.
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Sources close to the situation told Schefter that Vikings owner Zygi Wilf is angry that his team plans to waive a player he wanted in Minnesota. Wilf played a major role in the re-acquisition of Moss and is unhappy with the way Monday's events regarding Moss unfolded.
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From what I've been reading Childress didn't clear any of this with his bosses and the Minnesota players are pissed with him too.
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Sources close to the situation told Schefter that Vikings owner Zygi Wilf is angry that his team plans to waive a player he wanted in Minnesota. Wilf played a major role in the re-acquisition of Moss and is unhappy with the way Monday's events regarding Moss unfolded.
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From what I've been reading Childress didn't clear any of this with his bosses and the Minnesota players are pissed with him too.
If that's the case, something tells me that Childress won't be in Minny much longer either.
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With all that said ... I agree with you on the fact that I'd take him in a heartbeat as an 11 game rental ... dude is auditioning for a contract ... he's backed himself into a corner ... he'll play.
I agree completely. Where ever he goes he needs to suck it up and play. His contracts up. Bring Him for the rest of the season. Why the hell not? If he acts up they will get rid of him. But if he comes and plays the rest of the year ... and ends up liking it here. thats our vet WR we needed. Draft a rookie in the first round and all of the sudden we have some weapons.
It's a long shot but wth
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I would still not be shocked to see Chilli out and Moss a Vike come Tuesday morning. I guess it all depends on who actually files the papers with the league when it comes to releasing a guy......
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If we can get him, I'd be all for it.... aside from the salary, which I don't care about at all, he's FREE. Not trading for him.
Get him and play him.... if he works out, sweet. If not, we cut him in a few weeks and no sweat off our backs.
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Get him and play him.... if he works out, sweet. If not, we cut him in a few weeks and no sweat off our backs.
Win-Win-Win.
Basically!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont see why we wouldnt file for him.
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Seems like an insulting thing to place a waiver on a player who doesn't want to be on your team. Especially with a guy like Moss who will quit.. you are just injecting cancer if you pick him up against his will. Can you imagine being a future Hall of Famer in the twilight of your career; really wanting to go to the super bowl... but the Buffalo Bills demand you play for them? That would be a slap in the face in my book. I'm also against the draft 
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If he was overly concerned about a "slap to the face", he would have conducted his career with a little more professionalism and a lot less Diva-ism. There would never have been any such thing as the Randy-Ratio.
He's getting what his personality has earned him.
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Childress lost this team in camp when they through rose petals at Favre to return.
The man has the best RB in the game, a top caliber defense, and still can't figure out how to make all the pieces fit, and believed a RANDY MOSS was going to help pull his fat out of the fire?
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Absolutely Un Freaking Beleivable
This is why the Browns haven't won ANYTHING in 15 years!
OH! I don't know, He is only one of the top two wide receivers in the entire NFL since HIS ROOKIE YEAR!
No way the Browns would want a player who might cause them to WIN.
Unbelievable!
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I don't understand why anyone would not want Randy Moss...even right now he is the downside of his career, however if he came here he would be the best receiver this team has had since Paul Warfield.
also, I just "love" how people call Randy Moss a "headcase"...lets be realistic here....us fans really don't know jack squat about Randy moss, isn't anyone on this forum that really knows Randy Moss....Moss flipped out in viking land the first time around because he didn't like losing...i call that being competitive not being a head case...the guy isn't a loser...that is the kind of players you want.
no one gets along with Al Davis anymore as senile as he is so thats a moot point.
Bellichik had great things to say about Moss..the ONLY reason Moss was traded was because of money...Kraft didn't want to pay him what he was worth...the Pats trading Moss had ZERO percent to do with anything in the lockeroom...it was about them not willing to pay Randy what he want...it was purely a business decision.
We should bring Moss in pronto if we can...he could possibly turn our season around for us...The guy is a playmaker and opens everything else up for everyone...our run game will be better, and our passing game will be better...Randy Moss makes plays.
I don't understand why it seems people don't want playmakers..I don't care if Randy Moss is cocky or not as long as he catches the balls thrown his way and scores TD who gives a damn...really....
Character issues. Moss has a boat load of them. You don't have to know him personally to know that. I seriously doubt Holmgren & Mangini would put up with his crap. Someone mentioned the Lions as a possibility. I'll say the Rams could sneak in there too. But in reality, he'll more than likely get claimed by NE, because I just don't see too many teams that would want him other than a team that doesn't want NE to get him back. I have no clue who that might be. I'm pretty sure everyone on this board wants playmakers. It's all the stuff that comes with it, and how much crap your willing to take. Sorry, but Moss is not worth the trouble.
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Absolutely Un Freaking Beleivable
This is why the Browns haven't won ANYTHING in 15 years!
OH! I don't know, He is only one of the top two wide receivers in the entire NFL since HIS ROOKIE YEAR!
No way the Browns would want a player who might cause them to WIN.
Unbelievable!
C'mon. Really?
There are at least 100 other reasons why the Browns haven't won in 15 years. That's crazy talk.
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Absolutely Un Freaking Beleivable
This is why the Browns haven't won ANYTHING in 15 years!
OH! I don't know, He is only one of the top two wide receivers in the entire NFL since HIS ROOKIE YEAR!
No way the Browns would want a player who might cause them to WIN.
Unbelievable!
Have you ever been in business?
One bad apple, no matter how talented, truly can spoil the whole bunch.
Did Bill Belichick suddenly become stupid? He dumped Moss and traded to get Deion Branch back.
The Patriots traded Moss away on October 6th. The Patriots have won 3 games in a row without Moss. The Vikings went 1-3 with Moss. Is Moss the big difference maker? Not really. He's a talent .... but he's not the difference between a team winning and losing on the field.
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I'd love to have a player with Moss' skills on the Browns.
Problem is most of them don't want to be on losing teams without good quarterbacks.
Grabbing a player who doesn't want to be on your team is a stupid and insulting move.
I'm 99% sure Moss will end up on a playoff caliber team with a good quarterback.
I actually thought the Vikings was a fantastic fit....but the Childress factor interfered on a good player matchup. Favre to Moss? Beautiful.
I could see Moss landing on a lot of teams. But I would automatically rule out any team with a losing record or a bad quarterback.
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4 games and Moss had 13 catches for 174 yards and 2 TDs.
Decent, but hardly spectacular numbers. That's works out to what ... a 750 yard season?
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Hopefully this clears up some contract and waiver wire misconceptions that have been passed along in this thread: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Several possible landing spots for Moss November, 1, 2010 Nov 15:19PM By John Clayton The cost was a third-round pick and considerable embarrassment. After the Vikings decided Monday that they will waive Moss, the question is whether another team is willing to pay $3.388 million to rent Moss for the rest of the season with the hopes he can make an impact. Moss' name did not appear on the league's official waiver report Monday. If Moss doesn't appear on the waiver report until Tuesday, the soonest he could be awarded to a team is Wednesday. Waiver claims are made in inverse order of the current standings, so Buffalo, the team with the worst record in the league, has the first shot to claim Moss. A team can claim him and pick up the final year of a contract that pays him $6.4 million a year. If no one claims him, the Vikings owe him the remaining $3.388 million of his deal and he’s available for about $450,000, with Moss picking the team he would like to join. Whether it’s by waiver claim or a signing, here are the options available for Moss: St. Louis Rams: This might not sound like a Rams-like move, but Moss has to be a consideration. Remember, the Rams were in the final mix to sign Terrell Owens before he went to the Cincinnati Bengals. Offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur knew Owens from their days together in Philadelphia. There isn’t a similar Moss connection with the current Rams staff. Thanks to the rapid development of rookie quarterback Sam Bradford, the Rams are 4-4 even though they don’t have much left at receiver after injuries to Donnie Avery, Mark Clayton and Danario Alexander. Moss could be worth the gamble in a waiver claim. Seattle Seahawks: The team might be over budget after paying T.J. Houshmandzadeh not to be a Seahawk, but Moss would be the deep threat this team lacks. The Seahawks looked into acquiring Vincent Jackson. They made a bold move in the trade for running back Marshawn Lynch. Pete Carroll is the type of coach who wouldn’t mind Moss being a little bit of a risk. At USC, Carroll worked with many different personalities and egos. Washington Redskins: This would be a natural move to claim Moss on waivers if owner Dan Snyder had his way. At wide receiver, the Redskins have Santana Moss, Joey Galloway and a lot of no-names. Money wouldn’t be an issue, so if the Redskins don’t claim him, count them out. But Moss would make great sense. Donovan McNabb has a good deep arm. If he could get some healthy running backs, McNabb would work some play-action passes to Moss. The question is whether coach Mike Shanahan is on board. Miami Dolphins: After adding Brandon Marshall, the Dolphins aren’t looking for another receiver, but they could put in a waiver claim to prevent him from going back to the New England Patriots. Even with Marshall, the Dolphins have been among the worst teams in the league for explosive plays, so they could justify the move from the offensive standpoint too. New England Patriots: For economic reasons, the Patriots probably wouldn’t claim him, but if he’s available for about $450,000, how fitting would it be to bring back Moss? The Patriots fleeced the Vikings for a third-round choice, and they could end up with the player for nine games. Kansas City Chiefs: A year ago, the Chiefs got some positive results picking up wide receiver Chris Chambers. Moss makes even more sense. The Chiefs are 5-2 and in a good position to win the AFC West. General manager Scott Pioli knows Moss from their days together in New England. Matt Cassel might not have the deep arm that works best for Moss, but Moss could make the Chiefs even more dangerous on offense if they make the playoffs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thankfully, Clayton doesn't have us listed as an option.  (which doesn't mean diddly in the grand scheme of things of course just because Clayton wrote it)  Just wanted to clarify in case someone took my comment out of context or construed it as a personality disorder. That isn't. LOL
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I was trying to be kind to BE.... figured I'd slam the former Steeler....
BE still a Jet.....Havent heard much from him lately......Must be cause he's from michigan
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