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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5752533 Preseason all Americans G: Jimmer Fredette [BYU] G: Jacob Pullen [Kansas State] F: Kyle Singler [Duke] F: Harrison Barnes [UNC] C: JaJuan Johnson [Purdue] Preseason Top 25 1. Duke 2. Michigan State 3. Pittsburgh 4. Villanova 5. Kansas State 6. Ohio State 7. Gonzaga 8. Kansas 9. Syracuse 10. Illinois 11. Florida 12. Kentucky 13. Tennessee 14. Baylor 15. Purdue 16. Missouri 17. Texas 18. Virginia Tech 19. Memphis 20. North Carolina 21. Georgetown 22. Washington 23. NC State 24. San Diego State 25. Georgia Preseason All-Americans * denotes Player of the Year ** denotes Freshman of the Year First Team G: Jacob Pullen (Kansas State) G: Nolan Smith (Duke) G: Jimmer Fredette (BYU) F: Kyle Singler (Duke)* F: Marcus Morris (Kansas) Second Team G: Shelvin Mack (Butler) G: Austin Freeman (Georgetown) G: LaceDarius Dunn (Baylor) F: Harrison Barnes (North Carolina)** F: Elias Harris (Gonzaga) Third Team G: Talor Battle (Penn State) G: Ashton Gibbs (Pittsburgh) G: Malcolm Delaney (Virginia Tech) F: Trey Thompkins (Georgia) F: Kenneth Faried (Morehead State) Now onto Ohio State! William Buford and Jon Diebler along with David Lighty return to form a trio of scorers looking to improve their numbers in order to make up for the loss of Turner.  David Lighty, about as solid as they come. Best defender in the country in my opinon. His ball handling will be important. If he can PG our backcourt can be devastating to a lot of teams.  Diebler's responsibilities probably won't change much as he is what he is: a sharpshooter. If he can FINNALY show us consistency we will be unbeatable.  Buford could end up being the team's best player.  Sullinger is a bruiser with soft hands and probably the most polished low post game of any of Matta's recruits  Dallas Lauderdale will continue to be what I call the "Kendrick Perkins role." Just be a mean SOB and be a tough interior defender. Bench  Deshaun Thomas is a scorer, flat out. Think Michael Redd, only bigger, and a better defender. He's regarded as one of the best three players at his position and a top 20 player overall. Chances are he may be the newcomer that helps fill Turner's massive shoes on the perimeter as he can slash into the paint. Jordan Sibert, Lenzelle Smith, and Aaron Craft, along with small forward J.D. Weatherspoon. Will be the future of the team I could see this team winning it all. Losing Turner hurts but it forces Buford to step up. I believe this kid can be a special player. Also Jared Sullinger will provide toughness inside with Dallas. Deshaun Thomas can help provide defense on big athletic wingman.
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Kentucky would have been higher than 12, if Kanter had been cleared to play.
I'm really excited for this year. We are much better built for a Final Four run this year than what we were last year.
We don't have the pure talent that we did last year, but we're better built to run the Dribble Drive this year (Cousins dominance in the post and his lack of outside play caused us to play a lot less Dribble Drive last year). Plus we have a LOT better outside shooting ability than we did last year. That's what killed us against West Virginia last year. They went 1-3-1, forced us to knock down open jumpshots, and we couldn't.
If Kanter gets cleared, we'll have a starting 5 of...
PG - Brandon Knight - A flat out shooter. He can score from anywhere on the court. In the preseason exhibition games in Canada, he averaged over 25 points and 7 assists per game. Just as quick as John Wall was last year. He won't make the spectacular plays that Wall made, but he's a better scorer.
SG - DeAndre Liggins - High energy guy, that will be key for us this year. Everyone knows he's a GREAT defender. Hopefully his offensive game has improved some this year to give us some decent production from the 2 spot.
SF - Darius Miller - This is Darius Miller's team this year. For us to be successful this year, Miller has to take Patrick Patterson's role this year. He needs to be the leader of this team. So far this year, he's looked to be much more confident, and willing to accept that role.
PF - Terrence Jones - The perfect guy for the 4spot in John Calipari's offense. He can play inside and out. At 6'8, he can handle the ball, and shoot the outside jumpers, or he can post up smaller defenders and use his height and simply overpower them.
C - Enes Kanter - If he gets cleared to play, he's going to be a stud. Him getting eligible will be key to our year, because without him, we're going to have to get by with Eloy Vargas and Josh Harrellson at the 5 spot. He's a big, physical guy down low, but he can step out and knock down the 15-18 foot jumpshots.
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Daron Lamb, Stacey Poole, Jon Hood, Eloy Vargas, Josh Harrellson, and Jarrod Polson.
Depth could be the downfall of us this year. Especially in the frontcout. We can't rely on Harrellson to produce at all, which means we're basically rotating Kanter, Vargas, Jones into 2 spots.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us go small at times this year with something like...
PG - Knight
SG - Lamb
SF - Liggins
PF - Miller
C - Jones
To get Kanter and Vargas some breathers.
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Harrison Barnes hasn't scored a single college point yet and he's a preseason all-american... 
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As much as I hate to say it, he should be.
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Tell me if this is a fair assesment on Maryland. I've got the Terps finishing 6th in the ACC, which should be good enough for an NCAA Tournament berth. I think they are one-and-done in the tournament though because of a lack of solid guard play. The key to Maryland's season will be the development of incoming freshmen Pe'Shon Howard (SG), Terrell Stoglin (PG) and Mychal Parker (SF). Howard and Stoglin will need to play very well in the backcourt for the Terps to live up to their potential.
The true star of the team will be Jordan Williams, though. I think he has a chance to be something special after averaging 9.6 points and 8.6 rebounds last year. I would look for him to average a double-double this year (something around 14 and 10).
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Who do you have as the top 5 in the ACC?
Just curious because you have Maryland 6th, I have them 7th.
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Here's my write up
Atlantic Coast Conference
1. Duke
2. Virginia Tech
3. North Carolina
4. NC State
5. Florida State
6. Maryland
7. Miami FL
8. Clemson
9. Georgia Tech
10. Virginia
11. Boston College
12. Wake Forest
All-Atlantic Coast
G: Nolan Smith (Duke)
G: Malcolm Delaney (Virginia Tech)
F: Chris Singleton (Florida State)
F: Harrison Barnes (North Carolina)
F: Kyle Singler (Duke)
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I got...
1. Duke
2. North Carolina
3. Virginia Tech
4. NC State
5. Florida State
6. Clemson
7. Maryland
8. Miami FL
9. Georgia Tech
10. Wake Forest
11. Virginia
12. Boston College
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I think Adrien Bowie is a decent guard and can hold his own.. I do think that the emergence of the freshmen is going to be important but Bowie is not bad to hold down the spot... Mosely needs to step up too, the kid has shown flashes but he is prone to the head scratching move now and then but he is tremendously athletic..
Jordan Williams does have the potential to be a big time player especially if he can learn to move away from the basket just a little... the one thing you don't mention is another inside player.. this is a big ?????? for the Terps this year, if nobody else steps up to take some of the pressure off Williams (especially on the defensive end) he is just going to wear himself out. Gregory, Padgett, Levent, this kid from Amsterdam... one of them needs to step up and take at least a little of the pressure off Williams..
Overall I think middle of the pack is probably about right... but this is a signature Gary Williams type team.. void of any name superstars but with the potential to just out work and out hustle enough other teams to put together a pretty solid season... but Gary's flex offense is really dependent on solid guard play (I know in college guard play is always key) but with the flex offense you absolutely have to have a good PG and a good swing man/small forward...
I'll edit my rant.. this is my issue with Gary Williams.. this years team will have 4 kids from the MD/DC/NoVA area on it.. that's a shame since some of the very best HS bball players in the country come from there.. we have 4 kids (all from MD) and all 4 are JRs and SRs, that means Gary hasn't signed a local kid in over 2 years to a scholarship.... the team is made up of kids from Arizona, California, New York, Iceland and Amsterdam... I'd be ok with that if they were winning championships but local kids are leaving and winning championships elsewhere and Gary needs to fix that.
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my little sis is good friends with lighty. really nice kid
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That's not surprising. Also from the people I've talked to, Evan Turner is one of the coolest people you'd ever meet. He's not a doushebag and he's very humble.
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Pitt is it!!! It's finally going to be our year!!!!
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I have to agree
Big East Conference
1. Pittsburgh
2. Villanova
3. Syracuse
4. Georgetown
5. West Virginia
6. St. John's
7. Seton Hall
8. Marquette
9. Louisville
10. Notre Dame
11. Connecticut
12. Cincinnati
13. Rutgers
14. South Florida
15. DePaul
16. Providence
All-Big East
G: Austin Freeman (Georgetown)
G: Kemba Walker (Connecticut)
G: Ashton Gibbs (Pittsburgh)
G: Corey Fisher (Villanova)
F: Kris Joseph (Syracuse)
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While Turner is a huge loss, he may not be as big of a loss as an outsider would think. His departure will lead Ohio State to being a more balanced basketball team, with contributions coming from everywhere, rather than sitting back and watching Turner go to work.
I think David Lighty takes over the majority of the "point guard" duties, although incoming freshman Aaron Craft could eventually take over as a true point.
Turner is without a doubt a big loss, but this will be a much more balanced inside-outside team with Lighty, William Buford and Jon Diebler on the perimeter and Jared Sullinger, Dallas Lauderdale and DeShaun Thomas on the inside. That added balance may help them go further in this year's tournament.
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I've NO trust in UNC this year.
Sure Barnes is fine, but they dont have any other good height. Zeller and Henson are wayyyy too overrated to get anything done. I still dont trust their guards...especially Drew (even though he wont start)...
I think it goes...
1. Duke
2. VT
3. NCST (my guys...Tracy Smith plus 3 incomers to go along with Javi Gonzalez, Scott Wood's shooting prowess, and Jordan Vandenberg getting an expanded role)
4. UNC
5. Anyone else...everyone seems to be rebuilding from senior-laden or draft ravaged rosters...or new coaches.
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It has to start somehow
What better place than here?
What better time than now?"
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but that's the rub, right? who is going to handle the ball and be the "point"
the good thing is that Matta has been good at X and with the Bucks at just letting his best ball-handler handle the ball.
i was actually leaning towards it being Diebler this year. but, whoever it is, we need to figure it out quickly because rarely does it work when a team 'shares' PG duties across several players among it's starters.
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After seeing my team get through practices and 2 exhibition games, plus the games in Canada, here's my prediction for us..
We start 4-0 with wins over East Tennessee State, Portland, Oklahoma, and Virginia/Washington.
We then lose to Michigan State in the Finals in Maui.
Knock off Boston, then lose to North Carolina.
Then, we finish off our non-conference schedule without another lose knocking off Notre Dame, Indiana, Miss. Valley State, Wintrop, Coppin State, Louisville, and Penn.
Then we get into SEC play and start 7-0 beating Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Ole Miss.
Then we take our first SEC loss at Florida.
Knock off Tennessee.
Tough loss at Vandy,
Then we win out in the SEC, beating Miss. State, South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida at home, Vandy, Tennessee.
Puts us at 14-2 in the SEC and 26-4 overall.
Then I think we wint he SEC tournament, because by this time we will have gelled all these Freshmen together, and be ready to make our run.
That will put us at 29-4, and likely a #1 seed heading into the NCAA tournament.
*This is all assuming Enes Kanter gets cleared and is able to play by at least mid-December.
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Top I would be shocked if Kentucky didn't just dominate there schedule. However Florida will be tough, OSU has to play them this year too.
Also logo, Aaron Craft might start at PG. I feel comfortable with that. Keep in mind we don't run a traditional offense. We play 4 wingmen and a center.
PG: Craft / Lenzelle Smith
SG: Diebler / Jordan Sibert
SF: Lighty / Deshaun Thomas
PF: Buford / J.D. Weatherspoon
C: Sullinger / Lauderdale
We finnally have some depth. This last recruiting class was beyond huge for us because now our starters don't have to play 35-40 minutes a game
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The SEC will be better this year, however we're still just simply more athletic and talented than anyone in the league.
Florida is the only team in the SEC that can truly compete with us. However, Tennessee will be decent, and Georgia even won't be a cupcake this year, IMO.
SEC East standings :
1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Georgia
4. Tennessee
5. Vanderbilt
6. South Carolina
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I'm interested to see how Tenn does wilth all the trouble surrounding their coach... wonder if that will be a distraction at all...
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So what would the starting 5 look like without Enes.
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Without Enes, I think we're going to play VERY small.
G - Brandon Knight (6'3)
G - Daron Lamb (6'4)
F - DeAndre Liggins (6'6)
F - Darius Miller (6'7)
F - Terrence Jones (6'9)
However, I don't think it's going to matter, cuz I'm hearing we will hear a decision on Kanter soon. Before our first game Friday.
I'm also hearing he will sit out anywhere between 6-10 games. Which will hurt us in Maui, but even at 10 games, he'll be back by the Wintrop game, and give him a few games to get into playing shape by SEC play.
When Kanter is back, it'll be...
G - Brandon Knight
G - DeAndre Liggins
F - Darius Miller
F - Terrence Jones
C - Enes Kanter
With Daron Lamb the first guy off the bench.
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G - Brandon Knight (6'3)
G - Daron Lamb (6'4)
F - DeAndre Liggins (6'6)
F - Darius Miller (6'7)
F - Terrence Jones (6'9)
That's still a solid team. OSU has shown over the years you can win a lot of games even playing small ball.
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Terrence Jones would be key to that team.
Granted it was against an overmatched opponent in an exhibition game, but Jones stat line from last night...
23 points, 10 rebounds, 5 blocks, 4 assists, 3 steals.
That's an impressive statline even if you're playing at the YMCA.
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Granted it was against an overmatched opponent in an exhibition game, but Jones stat line from last night...
23 points, 10 rebounds, 5 blocks, 4 assists, 3 steals.
That's an impressive statline even if you're playing at the YMCA.
The blocks and steals impress me. It shows he has good defensive awareness. That is usually an issue playing a bad team because you feel like you can just outscore them. You can get a double-double against any scrub team.
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Jones was playing with some major intensity last night even though it was only an exhibition game.
He was in Calipari's doghouse after the first exhibition game. Cal must have gotten the point across to him throughout the week in practice.
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He was in Calipari's doghouse after the first exhibition game. Cal must have gotten the point across to him throughout the week in practice.
That is something that I think makes Cal a great coach. He gets great offensive fire power but he preaches defensive intensity.
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I have to agree
Big East Conference
1. Pittsburgh
2. Villanova
3. Syracuse
4. Georgetown
5. West Virginia
6. St. John's
7. Seton Hall
8. Marquette
9. Louisville
10. Notre Dame
11. Connecticut
It might be a good year for Pitt, but are you really putting Conn at number 11? Seton Hall at number 7 and the Johnies at 6? Sure St. Johns will get better with Lavin as their coach, but that's ridiculous.
And Conn will be better this year for sure. Kemba Walker and Alex Oriaki (started as a frosh last year and was our best rebounder) will be good players. And then we have another sophmore who will make a difference, Coombs McDaniel. 5 star recruit Roscoe Smith too.
Go ahead and rip UConn, but the team's only going to be better. When's the last time UConn had two really bad years in a row?
Connecticut has a great coach (and two new, good assistant coaches coming in, one by the name of Kevin OLLIE (Personal fav of mine from UConn past)) and I think we'll have a better team this year. Calhoun has won 2 NCAA championships. How many UConn players (who weren't superstar recruits) play in the NBA? Probably more than any of those Big East Teams. And Walker will be a starting NBA point guard for some team, for sure. Good attitude, incredibly athletic, good defense, and he's a leader. All he needs to do is improve the jumper a bit
Please, Give the Huskies some respect! Sure Pitt is good, prob better than Conn; but how many championships have they won recently? Calhoun is a HOF coach, and this team will be decent. We don't miss the tournament twice in a row, hasn't happened since I've been a UConn fan (and that's when Donyell Marshall won my heart over as my favorite UConn player ever, Ray Allen #2, Ben Gordon/Caron Butler 3&4)
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I don't see UCONN being #11, but they aren't going to be great.
1. Pittsburgh
2. Syracuse
3. Villanova
4. West Virginia
5. Georgetown
6. Marquette
7. St. Johns
8. UCONN
9. Seton hall
10. Notre Dame
11. Louisville
That's my top 11.
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It might be a good year for Pitt, but are you really putting Conn at number 11? Seton Hall at number 7 and the Johnies at 6? Sure St. Johns will get better with Lavin as their coach, but that's ridiculous.
And Conn will be better this year for sure. Kemba Walker and Alex Oriaki (started as a frosh last year and was our best rebounder) will be good players. And then we have another sophmore who will make a difference, Coombs McDaniel. 5 star recruit Roscoe Smith too.
Sorry I just don't buy it, they're young and unlike Kentucky last year they don't have a superstar to make up for it.
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Connecticut has a great coach (and two new, good assistant coaches coming in, one by the name of Kevin OLLIE (Personal fav of mine from UConn past)) and I think we'll have a better team this year. Calhoun has won 2 NCAA championships. How many UConn players (who weren't superstar recruits) play in the NBA? Probably more than any of those Big East Teams. And Walker will be a starting NBA point guard for some team, for sure. Good attitude, incredibly athletic, good defense, and he's a leader. All he needs to do is improve the jumper a bit
Please, Give the Huskies some respect! Sure Pitt is good, prob better than Conn; but how many championships have they won recently? Calhoun is a HOF coach, and this team will be decent. We don't miss the tournament twice in a row, hasn't happened since I've been a UConn fan (and that's when Donyell Marshall won my heart over as my favorite UConn player ever, Ray Allen #2, Ben Gordon/Caron Butler 3&4)
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
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Yeah, they're just jealous. It has nothing to do with them not thinking Uconn just won't be good this year.
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The point I was making during that section of rant was that UConn has a very good track record. There is no team in the Big East that has been consistently as good as UConn over the past decade and a half (since I began watching UConn)
During all that time, we missed the NCAA tournament twice. I really don't think we're going to be a lower level team in the Big East this year and miss it two years in a row. The team just doesn't have a record of doing that.
As for the coaches picking UConn so low, I'm not really sure why, probably because of last year's underachieving team. But as I said, they'll get theirs. While I think this year probably won't be a run for a title, we're gearing up for one in the future. But still, this team will finish better than 11 in the Big East
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful. They just have a LOT to prove to me this year.
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WOW Buford started at point guard. Granted it was an exhibition.
Based on everything I've read today our starting 5 looked like this:
PG: Buford
SG: Diebler
SF: Lighty
PF: Sullinger
C: Lauderdale
If buford can play PG we are set to make a serious run. That's a lot of offensive fire power.
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When Conn plays Pitt this year, you just remember what Danger told you. Don't sleep on my guys. Experience and faith have led me to believe in JC, and he generally brings a good team to me, season after season (except last year, and I think Caron Butler's freshman year)
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I hear this week we'll hear a decision on Kanter.
My guy says he thinks it's going to be Wednesday, but will be this week for sure.
4-8 games he'll have to sit. He's not sure if the 3 games in Canada and the 2 exhibition games will count.
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We start 4-0 with wins over East Tennessee State, Portland, Oklahoma, and Virginia/Washington.
I'll be at the Portland game on the 19th. Am stoked to see both that and the Oregon/Duke game on the 27th. C'mon out Top - I have extra seats if you're interested
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Hey peeny we play your gator boys next week  OSU will struggle early IMO. 1. We need to figure out our starting 5 and our rotations. I'm not even sure if Lauderdale starts for us. I gurantee our big 3 (lighty, buford and diebler) start. 2. We have to figure out who runs the PG. All signs have been buford so far 3. We have to figure out how many minutes Thomas and Sullinger get. They are explosive dynamic players on offense. 4. We have to figure out what type of defense we will run to mask sullingers weakness on defense. We might run zone instead of man to man. 5. We have to figure out who comes off the bench with deshaun thomas. However I think We'll click when it comes to tourney time.
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That would be awesome to make the trip out there. Unfortunately, I'm already taking all my vacation for a trip to Vegas over New Years, so I wouldn't be able to get the time off work. Thanks for the offer, though! 
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Lucky bastid, Oh to the michigan fans on here. Sorry but it's going to be a very long year in terms of basketball. That 59 points michigan scored against Illinois in football might be more than their basketball team scores all year
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