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As long as he lets Hillis stick his head out the window when he takes him for a ride I'm just fine with the pickup.
McCoy may very well turn out to be a decent QB for us. I'm anxious to see what he does with the Jets. This is a real test and for some reason I'm thinking the Jets coaching staff will want to throw everything but the kitchen sink at him. This is as close to a playoff game as we'll likely see this year.
You know both teams have to be all sorts of excited about this one. Even when their coach is talking smack about the starting QB you get the impression he's looking forward to the party. I hope Rob gives Rex a dope slap instead of a handshake when we win.
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New York has two outstanding cover corners in Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie. It has aggressive blitz packages with nasty linebackers, and ranks third in the league in scoring defense (16.2) and fourth in rushing defense (87.4).
A lot depends on how well the Browns can pound the ball against the Jets fronts..they will stack and blitz like crazy..if the Browns are bottled up the middle they'll have to attack the corner edges and pound them that way.
If the runing game is stacked they'll have to use the TE's/RB's ..and roll CM out away from the pressure..
I am concerned about the Jet corners,those guys are solid and the tightest DB pair to date.
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can anyone imagine Braylon Edwards driving a pick up truck? 
one of those souped up low-riders with pitch black window tinting and 30" rims and hydralics on the bed that bump to the gangster rap blaring (extended sub and speakers embedded into the toolbox at the front end of the bed so that people 2 states over shake from the bass).
yeah, I could see him in one of those 
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Just watched the NFL Network video. In the game I missed this, but the pump fake he put on Mayo before the pass to Hillis in that 4th quarter 30 yard completion shows something special about McCoy's smarts. He made that play work on his own.
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I'm sure NLR can vouch that a pickup truck in Austin is certainly no sign of humility. you're not a man if you don't drive one down here.
The ultimate bad-ass mobile here is a dualie. Take up two parking spaces to show how tough you are. The worst ones are the guys in white pick-ups. Don't know why.
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McCoy's approach to his first start, in the Browns' preseason finale against Chicago, gave a strong indication of just how far away he was from being anything other than a spectator as an NFL rookie. He was so nervous that, the night before the game, while reviewing the game plan with Daboll, McCoy, according to the offensive coordinator, "just froze." Daboll stopped the meeting, told McCoy to close his playbook, and asked him to tell him a funny story. McCoy obliged and the meeting was over.
"That's the last time I saw him have any nerves," Daboll said.
Starting to like Daboll more and more. I don't understand why his playcalling was so awful earlier in the year. I mean, it was never Carthon-bad, but it was bad. The past few games it's really been good! Wonder what could have happened in the Pitt game had Cribbs and MoMass not gone out so early. Oh, well.
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I'm sure NLR can vouch that a pickup truck in Austin is certainly no sign of humility. you're not a man if you don't drive one down here.
The ultimate bad-ass mobile here is a dualie. Take up two parking spaces to show how tough you are. The worst ones are the guys in white pick-ups. Don't know why.
I think it's more that the one he drives is 5 years old... it's probably the one Texas bought him when they recruited him... 
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McCoy's approach to his first start, in the Browns' preseason finale against Chicago, gave a strong indication of just how far away he was from being anything other than a spectator as an NFL rookie. He was so nervous that, the night before the game, while reviewing the game plan with Daboll, McCoy, according to the offensive coordinator, "just froze." Daboll stopped the meeting, told McCoy to close his playbook, and asked him to tell him a funny story. McCoy obliged and the meeting was over.
"That's the last time I saw him have any nerves," Daboll said.
Starting to like Daboll more and more. I don't understand why his playcalling was so awful earlier in the year. I mean, it was never Carthon-bad, but it was bad. The past few games it's really been good! Wonder what could have happened in the Pitt game had Cribbs and MoMass not gone out so early. Oh, well.
I'm still not convinced that Dabolls playcalling wasn't, in some fashion, hampered by the players on the field.
Look at when things opened up.. The pittsburgh game,, what's the one difference... QB.. Go figure...
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I'm sure NLR can vouch that a pickup truck in Austin is certainly no sign of humility. you're not a man if you don't drive one down here.
The ultimate bad-ass mobile here is a dualie. Take up two parking spaces to show how tough you are. The worst ones are the guys in white pick-ups. Don't know why.
I think it's more that the one he drives is 5 years old... it's probably the one Texas bought him when they recruited him...
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I'm still not 100% sold on Daboll but I'm willing to give him a little more time... look at last year jockeying between his two QB options, not good.. Then out with all of the old QBs and in with 3 new ones, the spend the whole offseason grooming Jake who lasts one game, then get Wallace up to speed and just as he appears to be getting it he goes out and in comes the rookie.. now he looks like he's getting it.. Hopefully Hillis, McCoy, and the rest of the offense can stay relatively healthy for a while...
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So much to like,, but the funniest thing,, he drives to work in a 2005 Chevy Pick up truck....
Talk about grounded,, gheesh...
can anyone imagine Braylon Edwards driving a pick up truck?
Along those lines, Hillis pulled up in a pickup also - although it was a ford - at the hotel last sat. night. Gets out in shorts and a camo shirt.
As the valets took his truck I was looking to see if it had a gun rack in the back.
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I'm sure NLR can vouch that a pickup truck in Austin is certainly no sign of humility. you're not a man if you don't drive one down here.
The ultimate bad-ass mobile here is a dualie. Take up two parking spaces to show how tough you are. The worst ones are the guys in white pick-ups. Don't know why.
I think it's more that the one he drives is 5 years old... it's probably the one Texas bought him when they recruited him...
I can vouch for the pickups in Austin. I lost a lot of "man points" when I switched from my Ranger to my Ion.
And DC, UTx doesn't buy pickup trucks. They are 'free' gifts that players can acquire at any local dealership (well, maybe not 'this' season)
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Bob Golic posted on his facebook page wanted his son to meet a "real football player" (emphasis on REAL).. so he took him to meet Hillis.. There is a picture of his son with Hillis and I showed it to my wife who now thinks Hillis is the hottest guy in the world not named DC... 
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Bob Golic posted on his facebook page wanted his son to meet a "real football player" (emphasis on REAL).. so he took him to meet Hillis..
There is a picture of his son with Hillis and I showed it to my wife who now thinks Hillis is the hottest guy in the world not named DC...
Well, you're lucky. My wife wouldn't put me in the top 50 of hot guys. And she tells me that almost daily. Just to keep me in line, I'm sure. 
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My wife said he was hot and I said, "Don't even think about it, I already have a mancrush on him."
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Frankly DAboll was trying to do to much. It often seemed as if he was running plays just because it was in the playbook. There was no rhyme nor reason as to what he was doing. We would be going along fine and then the dumb decisions just overwhelmed him.
Hell although it worked with the wildcat trick play last week, going to the wildcat when we really had an offensive rhythm wasn't very smart. Yes it set up the trickery but I dont think it was necessary. Same with the reverse with Figures against the Saints. No reason at all to run that play, especially right into the side they were blitzing from constantly. Zero chance of success.
Now with that said last week was the best game he has ever called. He may be maturing as an OC. It may be the blind squirrel effect. It may be Holmgren's presser that really got his attention. Whatever it was, it is saving Mangini's job and his career.
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There was no rhyme nor reason as to what he was doing.
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Now with that said last week was the best game he has ever called.
I'm kinda playing devils advocate here so don't be angry Mour..
Is it possible for an OC to call a great game and still lose? What I mean by that,, if you look at down and distance, time of game etc,, look at the play called and say,, yup, that's a good call.. But it wasn't executed thus it failed.
I'm only asking because I hear a lot on here about how he didn't call games very well..
Nobody has yet to convince me that there weren't some issues with execution as well..
good playcalling isn't worth anything if they can't get the play run right.
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I gotta help you play devil's advocate here too. I actually believe throwing in a trick play as a wrinkle to keep oposing D's guessing is a good thing. Predictability is a killer for any O in most cases. I also like plays being called that really have no rhyme or reason because if it looks that way to us, how could the oposing D know what's coming? I've sat and watched games under previous regimes where even I could call most of the plays beore the ball was even snapped. We were losing those games BTW So the whole, "Wow! I didn't see that coming!", effect is something I find as a pleasant change of pace. Something MAY be said for the fact our starting QB only has three starts under his belt and ALL of our QB's are new to the team this year. Maybe.....just maybe they are openning up the playbook as the team becomes more acclimated with and more successfull at running the plays we were running at first? Could it be the O as a unit is developing and we're running all the variations we can as quickly as they're capable of executing them? I don't have the answer to these questions but I do know the longer the season goes on, the more play variations I'm seeing and I like that. jmho
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I've sat and watched games under previous regimes where even I could call most of the plays beore the ball was even snapped. We were losing those games BTW
No kidding. My son was able to predict the plays during the Romeo years.
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heh, good points Pit. For an OC it's either "you're too predictable" or "no rhyme or reason", lol Everything looks to have a better flow to it when the plays being called actually work. When they don't work, they never look quite as good. 
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3rd and 8 and you send 4 receivers on 5 yard curls is what I mean by no reason. He really has called some of the dumbest plays I have ever seen. How about the 32 screen passes in Baltimore last year? How bout this year facing the Chiefs and Bucs and we decide to turn this team into the fun and gun, it really didnt matter that these were the 2 worst run defenses a yer ago.
Baltimore game I thought he called a pretty good game. Wallace just didnt make the smart reads although the 3rd and 2 when he has everyone running deep was a bit otu there.
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I liked when we ran Hillis on 9/10 plays in the 4th quarter on NO. And that 1 play we didn't was a halfback pass to McCoy. Does that sequence qualify as 'predictable' or 'no rhyme, no reason'
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3rd and 8 and you send 4 receivers on 5 yard curls is what I mean by no reason.
I don't remember the play, but I"ll take your word for it..
Are you sure the play was designed for 4 Recievers to run 5 yard curls.. or was it run improperly by one or two guys?
All I'm trying to say is are you sure what we see is what he called? That's really all I'm asking...
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This article from "Pro Football Weekly" gives a bit of insight, I think, to why the team is excited about having McCoy as the starting Quarterback. Quote:
Mack key part of Browns offense starting to finish games
"All along, we were running some good stuff," Browns C Alex Mack was saying of the Cleveland offense recently, referring to the team's 1-5 start, when the Browns were undoubtedly competitive.
Now, they are closing out games, as evidenced by impressive wins over the Saints and Patriots. In both victories, the offense notched impressive fourth-quarter drives leading to points, highlighted by the six-play, 60-yard march capped by Peyton Hillis' 35-yard TD run in the New England game.
As the Browns have established a distinctly physical tone on offense, Mack, who's started every regular-season game at center since the Browns drafted him in the first round in 2009, has played a key role. He readily admits he relishes when the Browns employ a "ground-and-pound" attack, but he noted the importance of a balanced offense. Note that Mack has fared well in pass protection; According to STATS, he did not allow a sack in his first eight games of the season.
"Alex Mack, I think, is going to be an outstanding player here for many years to come," Browns head coach Eric Mangini said leading up to the Week 10 game vs. the Jets.
Mack has been one of the constants in the Browns' offense, which has started three different quarterbacks (Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy) this season. However, the collective play at the position has been strong — "I think we've had a really good streak of quarterbacks," Mack said — and the transition among them has been smooth.
Mack told PFW that McCoy, who's under consideration for the full-time starting job, put himself in a position to succeed early with his preparation.
"He took it upon himself to take (it) as is if any play he could be in there, and he really wanted to learn and work hard at it. And it really proved to be really good, because he has been playing, and he's been playing very well," Mack said.
Mack also noted that McCoy has garnered respect because he is willing to listen to his teammates. For instance, McCoy is willing to change the snap count at the suggestion of his offensive linemen, Mack said.
"Some quarterbacks don't even want to do it because it's one extra thing to think about that doesn't really do much for them," Mack said. "... It's very good for a quarterback to come up and, without any problem, be very willing to help out."
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I can't remember who ran the interview, but I remember Colt saying something to the effect that he didn't mind sitting and learning, but once he got the chance for the starting job he wasn't going to let go. I'm glad to see that he's taken that mindset, validated it on the field and gotten the offense to rally around him. You also have to give a lot of props to Jake Delhomme, as Colt has credited him as being incredibly helpful in his development as a rookie QB.
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Hopefully Colt continues to play solid ball, and develops further.
The job IMO is his to lose now. If he has a bad game or two, we can always go back to one of the other guys.... which doesn't excite me but it'd be understandable. The kid after all is still just a rookie.
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The job IMO is his to lose now. If he has a bad game or two, we can always go back to one of the other guys.... which doesn't excite me but it'd be understandable. The kid after all is still just a rookie.
I'm not the first to say this, but dang it, Colt McCoy is bound to have a bad game. I don't think he loses his job if he has one..
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of course, if he has one bad game you keep going back to him. If he has a couple or three, maybe you think about going back to a vet.
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We'll be seeing a lot more of Colt this year.
Kid has "it". What a drive at the end of the game.
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If youre listening to his presser right now youre impressed!
This kid has the team! He is a special kid regardless if hes a mediocre QB or a star!
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4 starts, against 4 really good teams. 64-99 for 734 yards, 2 TDs and 2 INT. (Both tipped balls) He's also rushed for a TD. This is with only 1 even remotely productive WR. (Stuckey) Massaquoi was hurt for 2 games. Cribbs has been hurt. Robiske has almost been the #1 for a couple of weeks.  Scary.
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I have been a longtime Longhorns fan back to the days of Fred Akers and I have never seen a more accurate QB than Colt McCoy in a Texas uniform. I always knew he would find someway to win (unlike our current QB but that's not relevant here). He, like Vince Young before him, had the IT factor while running the Longhorns offense. Part of his success goes to his crop of WRs though. During his spectacular 2008 season when he shattered the NCAA completion % record, his main guys were Jordan Shipley and Quan Cosby (both of whom happen to be Cincinnati Bengals now). I expect Cosby may get cut at some point due to a numbers game as he has been relegated to special teams and now that the Bengals have Pacman Jones, he doesn't even handle the kickoff and punt returns anymore. Should Cosby get cut, I think the Browns should sign him and then draft the kid from Georgia to be the # 1 wideout.
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If youre listening to his presser right now youre impressed!
This kid has the team! He is a special kid regardless if hes a mediocre QB or a star!
I gotta agree with ya Mutt.. I just listened to the kids presser.. He has the media eating out of his hands.. and it seems clear to me that the players are responding..
He had another solid outing yesterday. Took the team down the field with less than a minute to score for a tie.. Then took them down again for the win.. but it's a damn shame Stuckey got stripped.. Had he not, I have to believe that Dawson would have put it in for 3 and we win..,
Thems the breaks..
Someone on here, I think it was Django, wanted to see how he looked in this situation., well, there you have it..
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I'm fully ready to anoint the kid at this point. I think Wallace and Delhomme have to accept that they've had their starting jobs taken away from them by Colt. I am super impressed with this kid, and it isn't like Rex & Company didn't have film of him to look at. While there's only three games in a Browns uniform, there's four years of college film on him if you wanted to look at tendencies. The kid is the real deal. We can check QB off of our Needs List. 
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I'm fully ready to anoint the kid at this point.
I think Wallace and Delhomme have to accept that they've had their starting jobs taken away from them by Colt. I am super impressed with this kid, and it isn't like Rex & Company didn't have film of him to look at. While there's only three games in a Browns uniform, there's four years of college film on him if you wanted to look at tendencies.
The kid is the real deal. We can check QB off of our Needs List.
The very best thing about not having to look for a QB is that we can now focus on other key positions.. LB, WR, DB, Safety just to name a few where I think we could use upgrades/depth.
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And if we can get to 8 or 9 wins and finish with a lot of momentum, Cleveland becomes a much more compelling place for free agents...
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