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Greg Oden will undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee and miss the entire 2010-11 season. The bad luck continues for Oden and the Blazers, so go ahead and drop him if you were holding him in hopes of a comeback. Marcus Camby and Joel Przybilla will hold down the center minutes for the Blazers the rest of the way - that is, once Przybilla returns from his own knee surgeries. It's tough not to feel bad for Oden and the Blazers, as Kevin Durant continues his dominant ways in OKC. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40246373/ns/sports-player_news/Damn at this point we could get oden for a 3 year 9-12 mil. We'll have like 12 mil in cap space next year and AJs 15 mil expiring contract.
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You gotta feel bad for Oden and the Portland fans.
But they knew when they drafted him that he was injury prone.
This is a Sam Bowie situation. Again. For the same team.
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And they passed on another super star player that looks like he could be a hall of famer. 
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Damn at this point we could get oden for a 3 year 9-12 mil. We'll have like 12 mil in cap space next year and AJs 15 mil expiring contract.
And that would be like throwing $9-12 mill out the window. He's played in only 82 out of 258 games in his NBA career, and if you count the rest of this season, that's 82 out of 328. The guy has been injury prone before he even came in the league. In his one year at OSU and his 3 years in the league, he has broke his wrist and will now undergo his 3rd season ending knee surgery. That's way too much money for a guy that quite possibly could never play another game in the NBA.
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Damn at this point we could get oden for a 3 year 9-12 mil. We'll have like 12 mil in cap space next year and AJs 15 mil expiring contract.
And that would be like throwing $9-12 mill out the window.
Yeah I forgot we could get Melo with that extra 12 mil! 
Like I said it's basically house money we'd be betting. No real superstar will come here.
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Yeah I forgot we could get Melo with that extra 12 mil!
Like I said it's basically house money we'd be betting. No real superstar will come here.
I never said that, but with that money you could sign someone that, you know, could actually play. I don't really want to sign someone so he can show off what is probably quite an extensive suit collection. I'd rather sign a guy that might play more than 20 games in a year.
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Sure, with the money we could sign a bunch of samardo samuels or a guy that will turn us into the pacers.
FYI, everything I've read hasn't said oden reinjured the knee. It's just a precaution to be safe for his career long term.
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Is he more likely to be the perrenial resident of the IR, or will he be a rare guy like Zydrunas Illgauskus who suffered through injuries early in his career, and then finally had a good number of injury free years?
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That's a tough call. Oden is young still and better built physically. So maybe his body can deal with it.
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I wonder if that hip issue from his youth causes his other injuries with him banging up and down the floor like he does? Maybe he puts strain on his knees at an unusual angle or something? He just seems to be a very injury prone young man. I can definitely appreciate that he wants to come back and become an impact player .... but I would be very wary of giving any kind of money contract to a guy whose legs appear to be made of glass. http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/25906538In sixth grade, Oden underwent surgery to repair his hip . Following the surgery, one leg was then longer than the other, resulting in his unusual gait which is often misstaken for a limp. His senior year of high school, Oden underwent surgery to repair a torn ligament in his wrist , an injury that kept him out until December for his freshman year of college, after which he helped push his team to the NCAA Championship Game, only to fall short. On September 13th, 2007, during preseason before his rookie season, he underwent microfracture surgery to repair his right knee. He would miss the entire 2007-2008 season. Oden managed to return from his first microfracture surgery only to have Andrew Bynum land on his foot on October 28th, 2008, injuring it . He would miss only two weeks, though. Then on February 13th, 2009, he bumped knees with Corey Maggette and chipped his left patella . It was the first injury sustained to his left knee and he missed three weeks due to it. He recovered from that and 2009-2010 was set to be his year. He was looking very much like finally the player he was supposed to be. Then on December 5th, 2009, he landed without contact on his left leg, and badly fractured his left patella . His recovery was projected to take him right up until training camp of 2010. After missing training camp, preseason, and the start of the regular season , and after saying he wouldn't return until he was 100% healthy but that he could still be an impact player and that he was not a bust, it was announced on November 17th, 2010 that Oden would undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee and would miss the entire 2010-2011 season.
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Sure, with the money we could sign a bunch of samardo samuels or a guy that will turn us into the pacers.
FYI, everything I've read hasn't said oden reinjured the knee. It's just a precaution to be safe for his career long term.
Lol...so Oden will turn us into NBA champions right? I swear if this guy played for any school other than OSU people wouldn't want anything to do with him. No he didn't re-injure his knee, but would it be better to have one bum knee or two? He fractured his patella on his left knee last year and is now having microfracture surgery on that same knee. He also had microfracture surgery on his right knee. For a guy who's game was predicated largely on athleticism, that's going to be tough to recover from.
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Lol...so Oden will turn us into NBA champions right?
Totally, with Oden we'll win 82 games and sweep every team in the playoffs. I'm glad you understood that's exactally what I was implying.
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I swear if this guy played for any school other than OSU people wouldn't want anything to do with him.
Is that you Braylon Edwards? It's a good thing you're on to my shenanigans before I start asking for Mike Conley and Evan Turner!
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No he didn't re-injure his knee, but would it be better to have one bum knee or two? He fractured his patella on his left knee last year and is now having microfracture surgery on that same knee. He also had microfracture surgery on his right knee. For a guy who's game was predicated largely on athleticism, that's going to be tough to recover from.
Like Ytown already mentioned, Z completely jacked up his foot. Yet he cameback and performed at a somewhat decent level.
I'm just curious about something, what exactally is the harm of spending a small amount of salary cap on oden. Keep in mind that's not even including the money we get from MLE. Is there some super star you want us to save our money for? Oden would be a small risk high reward. For a team in the Cavs situation that's all you can do at this point. Lepippen has set us back by at least 3 years. That's if we're lucky and draft solidly. We don't even know much about the type of GM we have.
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realize one thing. there's no way insurance will cover whatever contract we give him (so it's real money to the FO, which matters some).
but yeah, $3-4mil/year for a backup C who you hope to give 15-20 minutes who 'could' have a bigger impact is a decent investment. it'd be worth the risk as long as he checked out okay physically 'at the time'. still 2 years out from really considering it anyway.
but, I really don't think he's going to have a 'Z' career. Z had foot problems sure and those take a long time to figure out and fix, but once it was fixed that was his problem. Oden's knees aren't going to be fixed fully, his gait sure isn't going to be fixed, plus whatever other maledies he might have come up.
sad for Oden, sad for Portland.
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i love how on this board we aren't allowed to like any buckeyes. and if you want one to play on your team, it's a complete homer pick and you have no credibility.
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i love how on this board we aren't allowed to like any buckeyes. and if you want one to play on your team, it's a complete homer pick and you have no credibility.
for the most part this is true, but I have def seen ppl go overboard on the OSU love, esp with Troy Smith and AJ Hawk.
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Nobody cares if you want one to play for your pro team.. its the folks who want them ALL to play for their pro team when it gets a little old.
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Nobody cares if you want one to play for your pro team.. its the folks who want them ALL to play for their pro team when it gets a little old.
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I bet the team of "Overrated Maryland guys that people really wanted on the Browns" could beat the hand picked team of "Overated OSU guys that people really wanted on the Browns".
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I bet the team of "Overrated Maryland guys that people really wanted on the Browns" could beat the hand picked team of "Overated OSU guys that people really wanted on the Browns".
NO WAY!!!! We have way more overrated guys than Maryland has overrated guys!!
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I bet the team of "Overrated Maryland guys that people really wanted on the Browns" could beat the hand picked team of "Overated OSU guys that people really wanted on the Browns".
are there enough of those Terps to even field a team?
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What the heck just happened? I check my computer and we were up 4, next thing I know, we're down 19.
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Our starting lineup was pathetic tonight
JJ +/- was -13
Andy +/- was - 6
Moon +/- was -15
Mo +/- was -14
AP +/- was -14
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Yeah ... but we also played a really, really good team.
New orleans came into this game 9-1 for a reason.
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I didn't get to watch the game but was following it on my phone. Seemed like they went cold shooting in the 2nd quarter, and then came close to digging themselves out of the hole by the end. Fair assessment?
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I didn't get to see the game, but from what I read, that seems about right.
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sorry to go all 'shep' here but we've been really good at keeping Heat related items in the other thread so far. let's keep it up 
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Man, the Byron Scott Cavs are the polar opposite of the Mike Brown Cavs...can't play a lick of defense to save their lives. They're getting throttled by the Pacers right now...they're lucky Indiana is missing two thirds of their shots, or they'd be down 30 right now.
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Can someone explain the triangle offense to me the best they can. I'd really appreciate it!
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It works really well when you have a Michael Jordon or Kobe Bryant to run it through.
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The Triangle Offense, also known as the Triple-Post offense, is an offensive strategy in basketball. Its basic ideas were initially established by Hall of Fame coach Sam Barry at the University of Southern California. His system was later refined by former Kansas State University head basketball coach and current Los Angeles Lakers consultant Tex Winter, who played for Barry in the late 1940s.
The system's most important feature is the sideline triangle created between the center, who stands at the low post; the forward, at the wing, and the guard at the corner. The team's other guard stands at the top of the key and the weak-side forward is on the weak-side high post — together forming the "two-man game".
The goal of the offense is to fill those five spots, which creates good spacing between players and allows each one to pass to four teammates. Every pass and cut has a purpose and everything is dictated by the defense.
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Most offenses do.
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I love watching Miami suck
1. Not enough basketballs to go around
2. Not enough talent outside the big 3
4. Too old and injury prone outside the big 3
5. Not enough size
6. Too much expected too soon and too much pressure to win it all after totally redoing the entire roster but a few guys
7. Spoelstra sucks as a head coach
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I love watching Miami suck
1. Not enough basketballs to go around
2. Not enough talent outside the big 3
4. Too old and injury prone outside the big 3
5. Not enough size
6. Too much expected too soon and too much pressure to win it all after totally redoing the entire roster but a few guys
7. Spoelstra sucks as a head coach
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Kendrick Perkins could make them unstoppable though. He would fit PERFECTLY for that team. The heat could just litterally put a bunch of shooters around them.
If they don't get him that team is a complete trainwreck waiting to happen.
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i have not been able to watch much. been keeping track either via the net or nbatv...
i think scott has those guys ready for next thursday. it's their nba finals. fans won't care what happens the rest of the way if he comes out of that game with a W. 99% of cavs fans understand that we won't be back for a while.
but i think the time up until then will still be fun because we can figure out who will be part of it and who won't.
i believe jj will be a part of it, boobie will be a part of it, sessions should be but andy i think is gonna get dealt either this year or next year.
jamario and ap are probably going to get dealt as well.
i think 'tawn gets dealt in the summer.
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Kendrick Perkins could make them unstoppable though. He would fit PERFECTLY for that team. The heat could just litterally put a bunch of shooters around them.
If they don't get him that team is a complete trainwreck waiting to happen.
all they can offer is the MLE, right?
so he'd have to pass up an offer probably from the celtics for more, plus offers from several other teams for more money, just so he can go and play with miami?
i doubt it, but again, with pat riley, anything shady is possible.
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