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Now that he has actually played and played well, his time on the sidelines will be totally different. He'll know what's going on and will be more active with coaches and teammates.
This is what I'd hoped for as an ideal baptism... minus the ankle injury and the tough part of the schedule. I was pleasantly surprised at how well he played against the elite teams of the league, but in a way, that served to muddy the waters regarding the QB spot.
What I'd hoped for was one of the 2 vets to get back after 2 or 3 games, then let Colt sit for the remainder of the season. As you said, watching from the sidelines after real in-game experience would be completely different for him.
As things shake out, I'm not sure what I'd like to see. I certainly don't want him rushed back out there before he's healed up... not behind this patched-together OL- but I'm also not sure how much confidence I have in JD at this point. (He really didn't have much time on the field to show me what he could do) SW- I'd feel a little better about him, if only for his ability to scramble from pressure. Not a ringing endorsement, either.
Gonna be interesting to see how this team responds to adversity... it will show me a lot about who they are.
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As things shake out, I'm not sure what I'd like to see. I certainly don't want him rushed back out there before he's healed up... not behind this patched-together OL- but I'm also not sure how much confidence I have in JD at this point. (He really didn't have much time on the field to show me what he could do) SW- I'd feel a little better about him, if only for his ability to scramble from pressure. Not a ringing endorsement, either.
You summed up my feeling exactly, Clem.
I think Delhomme is done and definitely don't want to see him in there anymore. I think Wallace is the better option at this point.
It's truly unfortunate that Colt got hurt. As someone said above, it would have been enlightening to see what he did against the soft spot of our schedule.
I certainly hope they have seen enough of Colt to have some opinion of if he is going to be given the shot to be the guy for the next couple of years.
I know some are posting he isn't, and we should draft a high profile QB prospect this year, but I would hate to pass on some other positions of need and just invite another QB controversy down the road. 
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I don't think AJ Green will be an option for us. He won't be there. He's a top 3 pick, and we aren't drafting top 3.. We could.. lol.. but I doubt we do.
I agree he's top3 talent, but he very well could drop out of the top3. QB (Luck), OT(I think Carimi but scouts seem to disagree), and this year CB (Patterson and Prince) could very well bump him out of the top5 and into someone's laps.
I still think even if he drops to the 7/8 range that it will still be too high for us to pick unless we trade up and I don't think that will be our strategy.
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I agree he's top3 talent, but he very well could drop out of the top3. QB (Luck), OT(I think Carimi but scouts seem to disagree), and this year CB (Patterson and Prince) could very well bump him out of the top5 and into someone's laps.
I still think even if he drops to the 7/8 range that it will still be too high for us to pick unless we trade up and I don't think that will be our strategy.
No o-lineman is going top 3 this year... barely top 10..
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I agree he's top3 talent, but he very well could drop out of the top3. QB (Luck), OT(I think Carimi but scouts seem to disagree), and this year CB (Patterson and Prince) could very well bump him out of the top5 and into someone's laps.
I still think even if he drops to the 7/8 range that it will still be too high for us to pick unless we trade up and I don't think that will be our strategy.
No o-lineman is going top 3 this year... barely top 10..
I know that's what the scout sites say and they are probably right. Not sure what they don't like in Carimi though. He's ridiculously good.
(there's also a bunch of DE's up that high that could push AJ down. I just don't see the worst teams having WR as a main issue other than us: Carolina (SSmith), Buffalo(SJohnson and Evans), Cinci(Shipley, Ocho, TO), SF(Crabtree, Vernon), Cardinals (Fitz), Cowboys(Bryant, Miles, Roy), Denver(Lloyd, Royal - ok, need is there but they are producing), Lions (Calvin, Burleson, Pettigrew), Vikings (Sidney, Shiancoe))
Someone will take AJ because of his raw talent, but I think he slips because the 'need' isn't desperate for any of those top teams (well bottom teams at the top of the draft)
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Carimi is just slow. There is no OT I would take in the top 15 this year unless Riley Reiff of Iowa comes out, and I need to watch him more.
I don't think AJ will get out of the top 5. Most of those teams you mentioned especially Carolina and the Bengals, could still use a WR and they're not going to pass up someone like Green. I highly doubt the Browns get him.
And there's really only one defensive end who's a top 10 pick and that's Da'Quan Bowers. I don't see anyone pushing AJ down.
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I don't consider anyone other than Luck a top QB this year.
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There is no OT I would take in the top 15 this year unless Riley Reiff of Iowa comes out, and I need to watch him more.
I thought he was a sophomore. Did he redshirt or something?
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As things shake out, I'm not sure what I'd like to see. I certainly don't want him rushed back out there before he's healed up... not behind this patched-together OL- but I'm also not sure how much confidence I have in JD at this point. (He really didn't have much time on the field to show me what he could do) SW- I'd feel a little better about him, if only for his ability to scramble from pressure. Not a ringing endorsement, either.
Gonna be interesting to see how this team responds to adversity... it will show me a lot about who they are.
No sense in me making a long winded post when this pretty well covers my train of thought on the matter.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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As things shake out, I'm not sure what I'd like to see. I certainly don't want him rushed back out there before he's healed up... not behind this patched-together OL- but I'm also not sure how much confidence I have in JD at this point. (He really didn't have much time on the field to show me what he could do) SW- I'd feel a little better about him, if only for his ability to scramble from pressure. Not a ringing endorsement, either.
Gonna be interesting to see how this team responds to adversity... it will show me a lot about who they are.
No sense in me making a long winded post when this pretty well covers my train of thought on the matter.
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Wow,, McCoy leads in every catagory except Passer rating..
He and Wallace are, from a statistical stand point, fairly similar.. Really very close.
Not a very fair comparison really. given that Delhomme only played in 2 games compaired to 5 each for the other two guy.
Delhomme was pegged to be the starter,, for me, if McCoy can't go, it's gotta go back to Jake first.. JMO
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Wow,, McCoy leads in every catagory except Passer rating..
And passing TDs and INTs  
McCoy has played great for a rookie in his first four starts... but don't forget how awesome Wallace was doing in the Atlanta game (who many see as the actual best team in the league) before he went down. He's got a lot of the same skillsets as McCoy except he's got more zip on the ball. They both have spotty accuracy deep but Wallace's throws get there sooner. If you saw Kyle Orton underthrow Lloyd way late after getting 4 steps behind Eric Weddle on Monday, you'd see why that is so important.
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Wow,, McCoy leads in every catagory except Passer rating..
And passing TDs and INTs
McCoy has played great for a rookie in his first four starts... but don't forget how awesome Wallace was doing in the Atlanta game (who many see as the actual best team in the league) before he went down. He's got a lot of the same skillsets as McCoy except he's got more zip on the ball. They both have spotty accuracy deep but Wallace's throws get there sooner. If you saw Kyle Orton underthrow Lloyd way late after getting 4 steps behind Eric Weddle on Monday, you'd see why that is so important.
Yeah, but look at when the INT's happened for Colt.. Take that last one against Jacksonville,,, end of game trying maybe too hard,, and the other two on tipped balls.. that's what I mean about stats, they don't tell the whole story..
Anyway, they are very close which was my only point.
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All three of Colt's INT's have been tipped/bobbled balls. The one at the end of the Jax game was bobbled by Watson and then went through his hands and into the hands of the defender because Watson let the ball get into his body.
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That was a bad pass ... behind Watson.
McCoy was off all day.
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Carimi is just slow. There is no OT I would take in the top 15 this year unless Riley Reiff of Iowa comes out, and I need to watch him more.
I don't think AJ will get out of the top 5. Most of those teams you mentioned especially Carolina and the Bengals, could still use a WR and they're not going to pass up someone like Green. I highly doubt the Browns get him.
And there's really only one defensive end who's a top 10 pick and that's Da'Quan Bowers. I don't see anyone pushing AJ down.
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also.... don't forget that his pick in the JAX game bounced off BW'schest, and was grabbed on the carom. That throw was dead on point. Had some smoke on it, too.
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I would want to see it again, I guess.... I thought that he put that pretty much in the only spot he could have and that he gave Watson a good opportunity to make a play.
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Actually that ball was tipped by the defender before it reached Watson.
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I may have to watch it again as well.
My recollection is that the ball was behind which allowed it to get tipped before it reached him.
If he put it out a little more in front of him, he might of had a chance to break some tackles and get into the endzone.
At least that was my thought when I was watching the game.
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If we're talking " last play, " you're correct, Watson would have HAD to break a tackle and get in. No way Colt gets it spiked quick enough,...IMO.
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That was a bad pass ... behind Watson.
McCoy was off all day.
Actually it was a very well thrown ball and it hit the safety in the arm as he was running at Watson with his hands up not even looking at the ball.
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Since all we need right now is another interpretation/recollection of that play, I thought it was one of those throws that he placed only where his guy could get it.
2-3 bounces later, the safety had it...
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I'm going to go back and look at it again at some point this weekend.
But if the safety is able to get his hands on it without even looking, I'm not sure that can be called a well thrown ball.
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The safety got his hands on it as he streaked past Watson, and it flew out of Watson's hands right into the Safety's after he had run by him.
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I ain't gonna argue the merits of well-thrown or perfect,...Watson WAS in a position to catch it, but the Browns were not in a position to make the game continue thereafter. Ben would have had to score after the catch, methinks.
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Cleveland Browns QB Colt McCoy out with high ankle sprain Published: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:04 AM Updated: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:47 AM Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer BEREA -- Yes, Colt McCoy has the dreaded ankle sprain. In a rare admission for him, coach Eric Mangini confirmed that the Browns' rookie quarterback suffered the same injury in Jacksonville Sunday as fellow QBs Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace had previously. 73Share 48 Comments "It's different than the ones (Delhomme and Wallace) had, but it's in that same category, yeah," Mangini said. Delhomme and Wallace's injuries proved to be in the four-to-six week category. Mangini said he's optimistic McCoy won't be out that long, but the history of the team's high ankle ailments "tempers" his optimism. A six-week injury would keep McCoy out until the last game against Pittsburgh. Mangini said that Delhomme is ready to start and the coach "is leaning" to starting him over Wallace because of Delhomme's familiarity with the Carolina Panthers, his former team. Delhomme has not started a game since the season opener Sept. 12 in Tampa. web page
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What this is really boiling down to is the playcalling..the sidelines are the safer area you need to work with no timeouts not a intermediate strike down the middle .
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On that note (a good thought, btw), they were probably "going for it all" right then and there,....eh ? (Who knows)
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Carimi is just slow. There is no OT I would take in the top 15 this year unless Riley Reiff of Iowa comes out, and I need to watch him more.
I don't think AJ will get out of the top 5. Most of those teams you mentioned especially Carolina and the Bengals, could still use a WR and they're not going to pass up someone like Green. I highly doubt the Browns get him.
And there's really only one defensive end who's a top 10 pick and that's Da'Quan Bowers. I don't see anyone pushing AJ down.
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BEREA -- Yes, Colt McCoy has the dreaded ankle sprain.
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Delhomme and Wallace's injuries proved to be in the four-to-six week category. Mangini said he's optimistic McCoy won't be out that long, but the history of the team's high ankle ailments "tempers" his optimism.
A six-week injury would keep McCoy out until the last game against Pittsburgh.
Mangini said that Delhomme is ready to start and the coach "is leaning" to starting him over Wallace because of Delhomme's familiarity with the Carolina Panthers, his former team.
Delhomme has not started a game since the season opener Sept. 12 in Tampa.
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Ok, big deal. Delhomme is ready now and I see no reason why this will be a problem. Wallace is fine with me, too. Of all the problems this team has had so far in the season I'll have to say Quarterback hasn't really been too pressing. We've got three pretty decent ones for a change.
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The sky is falling, all Mangini's fault!
Ok, big deal. Delhomme is ready now and I see no reason why this will be a problem. Wallace is fine with me, too. Of all the problems this team has had so far in the season I'll have to say Quarterback hasn't really been too pressing. We've got three pretty decent ones for a change.
I'm pretty pissed. Why isn't Seneca Wallace starting! His game is much closer to McCoy's than Delhomme's is. Just for the sake of continuity he should play. Plus he's had success until he got injured.
Seneca plays intelligent football, and I think he's a much better option than Delhomme. I get the feeling this Sunday will be infuriating. I don't dislike Jake Delhomme as a person, but I hate his game. He's the third best QB on this team. Seneca would play intelligent football, and he'd give us the best chance to win
I just don't understand what games our coaches have been watching. This is incredibly stupid
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Mangini said that Delhomme is ready to start and the coach "is leaning" to starting him over Wallace because of Delhomme's familiarity with the Carolina Panthers, his former team.
This is why I don't buy into Mangini..who the ???? is Carolina?
They are 1-9 ,are you telling me if McCoy was healthy he'd start Jake because he came from there?
Right..you don't play Wallace because he's not ready ,not because Jake knows the Panthers D..who couldn't figure their D out?
Oh wait..maybe you Gini?
Maybe it's cuze Wallace opened his shoot about starting???
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This now puts the Cyclone back into the gameplan.
That's probably what the thinking is ... along with the fact that a starter doesn't lsoe his job to injury.
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