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Third time will be a charm 
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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So is charming the superlative you want to use to describe Hillis?
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maybe we can start a "Pay the Man" thread. We need to make sure we lock up HIllis for a VERY long time!
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maybe we can start a "Pay the Man" thread. We need to make sure we lock up HIllis for a VERY long time!
How bout a "PEY" the Man thread ?
And then, unless Hillis is from the planet Krypton, we PRAY that Hardesty works out.
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maybe we can start a "Pay the Man" thread. We need to make sure we lock up HIllis for a VERY long time!
Josh Cribbs twittered that last Sunday while he was out injured and Hillis was having a good day.. that the Browns need to lock him up for a long LONG time..
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You mean the Hillis Award by Fed-Ex. Because he like owns it? He is an impressive beast!
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I believe he's the only two-timer,....
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IIRC, he won once while in Denver. Not sure though.
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Good instinct,....won it once in 2008. Only two-timer this year,...
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The Browns play the Bills next.
Hillis should be in line for a 3rd nomination as Buffalo's run defense sucks.
They are last in the NFL against the run, allowing 170 yards/games, 4.7 yards/carry, 14 rushing TDs and 104 rushing 1st downs ..... the only team in triple digits in that category. (Our defense has allowed 66 by comparison)
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Posted in the other thread,..I am somewhat concerned that they will be able to key on Peyton, as we will have to tend to stick to the run with the weather being a factor,...just an instinct/theory. Then again, Daboll will try to throw them off by passing,.... 
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Only two-timer this year,...
Can't ever find my glasses or remember the shopping list when I go to the store, but I have all kinds of useless crap floating in my dome. 
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Posted in the other thread,..I am somewhat concerned that they will be able to key on Peyton, as we will have to tend to stick to the run with the weather being a factor,...just an instinct/theory.
Then again, Daboll will try to throw them off by passing,....
...just like the Browns/Bengals game in Cincy a few years back.....crazy windy, cold and we came out passing like the forward pass was just invented. A hundred DA INT's later we were out of the playoffs.
Oh well, I think Buffalo better be ready for a heavy dose of Hillis.
Also, there's a new movie coming out this week...
Spoiler Alert - Alien loses. 
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Posted in the other thread,..I am somewhat concerned that they will be able to key on Peyton, as we will have to tend to stick to the run with the weather being a factor,...just an instinct/theory.
Then again, Daboll will try to throw them off by passing,....
...just like the Browns/Bengals game in Cincy a few years back.....crazy windy, cold and we came out passing like the forward pass was just invented. A hundred DA INT's later we were out of the playoffs.
Oh well, I think Buffalo better be ready for a heavy dose of Hillis.
Also, there's a new movie coming out this week...
Spoiler Alert - Alien loses.
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Dude, that's a Predator, not an alien... 
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I was about to say the same thing. Obviously he has better taste in movies than me since he didn't know that. 
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Cleveland receives stolen goods in new hero Hillis
By Clark Judge
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Dec. 7, 2010
If they're going to throw a farewell party for Josh McDaniels, I suggest they do it in Cleveland. Nobody should be more grateful for what McDaniels accomplished in Denver than the Cleveland Browns -- and if you're not sure why then you haven't been following Peyton Hillis.
Hillis is not just the best back and best player on the Browns. He's one of the best backs and one of the best players in the NFL.
He runs. He catches. He blocks. He scores touchdowns. Lots and lots of touchdowns. He's tough. He's durable. He's charismatic. Teammates love him. Coaches love him. Fans adore him.
"He's beloved," said Browns' general manager Tom Heckert. "He's the kind of guy the city should embrace. Obviously, we're glad we have him."
And that's where McDaniels comes in. Because the Cleveland Browns wouldn't have Peyton Hillis if the former Denver coach wasn't so willing to get rid of him. According to league sources, McDaniels had been interested in trading Hillis for nearly a year before he agreed to a deal with Cleveland that now seems so lopsided you wonder if McDaniels is descended from Harry Frazee.
I mean, Peyton Hillis and two draft picks for ... Brady Quinn? Please. Yet that's precisely the trade McDaniels OK'd last March, shortly after Mike Holmgren took over as the Browns' president.
What makes the deal so compelling is that Cleveland had decided it was finished with Quinn. In fact, it shopped him for weeks with no one interested and was this close to waiving the guy until McDaniels came to the rescue. He expressed interest in Quinn before, so the Browns figured they'd check with him again before cutting Quinn loose.
They discovered that not only was McDaniels still intrigued by Quinn but was willing to offer the Browns the running back they coveted. That was Hillis, who'd come to coach Eric Mangini's attention when Hillis played against Mangini's New York Jets in 2008 and ran for a then-career-high 129 yards and a touchdown.
Mangini liked everything about the guy and made a mental note then to track him if he ever became available. But he wasn't alone. When Heckert was the GM in Philadelphia, he was on to Hillis, too, figuring he'd be a perfect fit for the Eagles.
Of course, nothing ever happened until the Browns put Quinn on the market, and then it happened in a hurry. Once Denver was interested, it was easy for Mangini and Heckert to zero in on a target, with both agreeing that Hillis could improve the Browns with his running, his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield and his toughness.
But they didn't stop there. Instead, they somehow convinced Denver to throw in two draft picks -- a sixth-rounder in 2010 and an undetermined 2011 choice that probably becomes another sixth -- to sweeten a deal that, frankly, helped make both clubs what they are today.
In Quinn, McDaniels thought he was getting a future starter. Instead, he's the team's third-stringer and hasn't played a down this season. In Hillis, the Browns knew what they were getting, and what you see today is the product of a club that did its homework.
"He's changed things here," said Mangini. "When he's rolling, and we're rolling it's a beautiful thing."
Mangini is right. Hillis has changed things. The Browns may not be the most entertaining or most talented club on the planet, but they're tough, effective and a difficult out. In short, they're a reflection of their running back. They drew the league's toughest schedule, yet never backed down -- playing opponents so hard and close that six of their games, including the last three, each were decided by four or fewer points.
They blew out defending Super Bowl champion New Orleans. They buried New England. They took the Jets to overtime. They could have beaten Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Baltimore and Kansas City. They should've beaten Jacksonville. Cleveland rocks, and nobody is rocking the Browns ... and their fans ... like Peyton Hillis. He leads the team in rushing, leads the team in catches, has nearly twice as many touchdowns (13) as the Browns' leading scorer a year ago (7) and has more scores than any running back in the NFL outside of Houston's Arian Foster (15).
But that's just the beginning, people. He's the only Browns' back outside of Hall of Famers Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly to rush for 11 TDs in one year -- and the first since Kelly did it in 1968. He has a touchdown in all but two games. He's tied for the league lead in third-and-one conversions with a perfect 9-for-9. He ranks second among running backs in receptions with 53. He's fourth in first downs and fifth in total yardage, and his 1,398 yards in offense comprise 38.1 percent of the Browns' output.
"He has a ton of touchdowns," said Mangini, "and some of them have been blocked. But there have been others where he just willed his way into the end zone. He's added toughness around here that's contagious. Guys 'ooh' and 'ah' when they watch some of those plays, and it sets a tempo."
Hillis is relentless, running over and through anyone who gets in his way, and he's so reliable, so dependable, so, well, indispensable, that when the Browns were trying to close out New England early last month they called on Hillis. Ahead by 13 points with just over six minutes to go, Cleveland ran him every play of its game-clinching drive. Hillis responded by carrying six times for 60 yards, punctuating the series with a 35-yard TD.
"He's the real deal," said Heckert.
Too bad McDaniels didn't get the memo. Losing Peyton Hillis didn't cost him his job, but it helped to build the case against him. I can't imagine where the Broncos would be with Peyton Hillis, but I do know where Cleveland would be without him -- and here's to Eric Mangini and Tom Heckert for making sure that didn't happen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Didn't see it posted...good read.
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Amazing trade.
Amazing how far Quinn has fallen. With a new coaching staff coming in Denver, Quinn is probably a goner.
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That read makes me giddy 
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A little redemption for 'The Drive' & 'The Fumble' 
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I'd just like to highlight my favorite parts because the article said everything we need to know/already know. Quote:
I mean, Peyton Hillis and two draft picks for ... Brady Quinn? Please. Yet that's precisely the trade McDaniels OK'd last March, shortly after Mike Holmgren took over as the Browns' president.
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What makes the deal so compelling is that Cleveland had decided it was finished with Quinn. In fact, it shopped him for weeks with no one interested and was this close to waiving the guy until McDaniels came to the rescue. He expressed interest in Quinn before, so the Browns figured they'd check with him again before cutting Quinn loose.
They discovered that not only was McDaniels still intrigued by Quinn but was willing to offer the Browns the running back they coveted. That was Hillis, who'd come to coach Eric Mangini's attention when Hillis played against Mangini's New York Jets in 2008 and ran for a then-career-high 129 yards and a touchdown.
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Mangini is right. Hillis has changed things. The Browns may not be the most entertaining or most talented club on the planet, but they're tough, effective and a difficult out. In short, they're a reflection of their running back. They drew the league's toughest schedule, yet never backed down -- playing opponents so hard and close that six of their games, including the last three, each were decided by four or fewer points.
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Do you suppose anyone in Denver is wondering why McDaniels is gone? I mean, as if his record wasn't enough, he got rid of Cutler, Marshall, Hillis and got What?
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let's be fair here.
he got a 1st round pick and Orton for Cutler. That's a win.
he got rid of a malcontent in Marshall (much like we did with Edwards. In fact, moreso because Marshall was being disruptive 'during' practice as well). maybe not a 'win' but a necessity.
he didn't use, then traded Hillis. that's a win (for the Browns)
his other big failure was trading their 2010 1st round pick for Alphonso Smith (2nd round pick in 2009).
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I don't wanna be fair,,,,,
Your points are well taken......
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THE TRADE!!!
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When we started looking for a new Head Coach last time around, I am so glad that we got Josh McDaniels ...... To go to Denver where we could use him for our own personal beeeeeeeeo ..... Well, I'll let you finish the rest in your mind ............
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What were the odds that this article didn't mention the Drive or the Fumble. 1000 to 1? Cheers to Clark Judge!
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his other big failure was trading their 2010 1st round pick for Alphonso Smith (2nd round pick in 2009).
And then what did he do in the first round in 2010? I guess Tebow could become a difference maker, but a friggin' first round draft pick is a HUGE stack of chips to bet with . . .
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Do you suppose anyone in Denver is wondering why McDaniels is gone? I mean, as if his record wasn't enough, he got rid of Cutler, Marshall, Hillis and got What?
I was in Vegas this past weekend and was hanging out with a buddy that lives there - a big Bronco fan (he grew up in Denver). We talked about each of those items.
Hillis: He's ticked about Hillis because he saw what Hillis could do when he played - he didn't like trading him then and doesn't even more now.
Cutler and Marshall: he was more pragmatic - he realized that those decisions were probably the right decisions.
Others: (a) He was livid at sending a 1st rounder to Seattle to move up to pick Alfonso Smith, then trading him a year later to Detroit for a 7th rounder and (b) He was livid at trading up to pick Tebow. He lijkes the guy, but doesn't believe he's an NFL QB and there were too many holes to have made the pick.
We wondered how long it would be before McDaniels was canned - and both of us figured he'd last to the end of the year...we were wrong...
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THE TRADE!!!
It's official THE TRADE!!! = The trade for Hillis.
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How about we wait until he helps lead us to a Super Bowl before we give it equal status?
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If Josh McD tries to press any theft charges I'll be there with my 20 bucks ready for the Mangini / Heckert legal defense fund.
Bwahahaha.. we robbed the donkeys.
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