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With Josh being counted on to produce as a wr, or wildcat QB/RB; I think that he is probably being dialed back on ST a little bit so as to not put himself in jeopardy of suffering a serious injury while going all kamikaze on a KO return.
But, at this point in the season, injuries are hampering his performance. His foot/toe injury needs to heal before he can really get onto the field again. I must say though, he has really made some key catches for us this year, and I think he has demonstrated some real value on the field as a wide receiver.
I have a feeling we will keep him out to hopefully get him healthy for the Baltimore and Pitt games.
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Josh Cribbs defends himself The National Football Post 1 hour, 3 minutes ago * Share * retweet * Email * Print Cleveland Browns Pro Bowl kick returner Josh Cribbs' production is down after signing a new contract in the offseason. And he's hearing about it from fans who are frustrated that his long kickoff return is 36 yards, and his longest punt return is 17 yards. "They're saying I'm not playing hard anymore because I got my contract," Cribbs told the News-Herald. Added Ray Ventrone(notes): "That's absurd. New contract, no new contract. This guy lives to play football. That's the kind of guy he is. He'd do anything he could to win a football game for this city. He's going to play hard. He's going to play banged up. If fans feel that way, it's a shame. He could have $300 million and he'd play as hard as he did when he had whatever." Cribbs is averaging 21.4 yards per kickoff return, 8.3 yards per punt. He ranks 32nd and 17th, respectively, in those categories. Last year, Cribbs was third in kick returns and fourth in punt returns with 27.5 and 11.9 averages. What's going on? "It cuts me deep, but those people don't know me, so I can't hold it against them," Cribbs said. "None of my fans will say that. I know people who have been to a Cleveland Browns football game and who have watched us play wouldn't feel that way. They know my heart and they know how long I've been playing to get where I am. "I'm trying to get another contract. It wouldn't make sense for me not to play hard. A lot of players have messed that up for other players. That's totally out of my character. Anybody who knows me would speak up for me." web page Quote:
"I'm trying to get another contract. It wouldn't make sense for me not to play hard.
Did he really just say that?
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"I'm trying to get another contract. It wouldn't make sense for me not to play hard.
Did he really just say that?
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I would assume he means he's still playing under this contract, but hoping for another contract when this one is done, or almost done.
In other words, he saying he doesn't want this contract to be his last - as in - keep playing well into the future.
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That's how I read it, too.
Fans who project such suppositions on players really don't know what's what.
It's all speculation, and it automatically assumes the worst about a person without any facts. It really tells us more about them than it does the player in question.
Hard for me to imagine Josh dogging it because he was paid. Besides, he's shown a willingness to sacrifice his body on every pass he's been thrown. Same guy, isn't he?
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No Wedge, Banged up, more duties... Josh is Still the Heart of this team in my book. If all the players played with the heart he and Hillis do somebody would still complain about something. It's a shame to see the fans put the mouth on him. He's been outstanding for a long time, he gets banged up and his numbers drop and it's due to him getting a contract.... petty.
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well said.
nothing to add here.
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No Wedge, Banged up, more duties... Josh is Still the Heart of this team in my book. If all the players played with the heart he and Hillis do somebody would still complain about something. It's a shame to see the fans put the mouth on him. He's been outstanding for a long time, he gets banged up and his numbers drop and it's due to him getting a contract.... petty.
No other returners in the NFL have the wedge either; they are still doing better than Cribbs. In Cribbs's defense, the blocking hasn't been very good. However, I think he's getting to the point in every returner's career where he starts losing burst. It happens. He's lasted longer than most.
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No other returners in the NFL have the wedge either; they are still doing better than Cribbs.
With more opportunities that is.
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Watching Cribbs run this season and comparing to last season, he looks slower and less illusive. I'm going to give Cribbs the benefit of a doubt because I believe he is more "injured" than Browns fans realize.
Also, the Browns used Cribbs at the WR position more this season and his production is up in that department. Who know's what the Browns will do with Cribbs next season but I would not be surprised to see him continue to play more at WR and less as a return man.
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IMO Cribbs is taking a beating for his production, with many overlooking his injury.
That being said, I can't for the life of me understand why he is returning kicks while sporting a foot injury. His ability is hampered, yet they keep putting him out there. Until he is 100%, IMO it is a coaching failure to play him on returns. It does not help the team to play a player that can't perform up to par because of injury.
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Maybe because teams aren't kicking to him anyway, so the threat of Cribbs is still effective?
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Cribbs is not injured he is using that as an excuse. He played with heart for many seasons on this team when he has injured and made it happen. He got is 20 mill contract and he is Ricky Vaughn in Majro League 2. Hopefully he finds himself and plays hard again.
We need to replace him. If he wants to be a WR than he needs to do that and run the wildcat. He is not longer a star on this team. The Browns have the WORST st return team in the NFL and it's not bc of a wedge. we didn't have the wedge last year. It seems to be because Cribbs lost his desire to play those positions.He calls a lot of Fair Catches and he also lets that stupid ball bounce instead of catching it and out field position has been taxed.
I expect that we will draft a KR/PR to replace Cribbs or a WR to replace Cribbs and he goes back to doing KR/PR. Either way devin hester 2.0 needs to be fixed.
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No Wedge, Banged up, more duties... Josh is Still the Heart of this team in my book. If all the players played with the heart he and Hillis do somebody would still complain about something. It's a shame to see the fans put the mouth on him. He's been outstanding for a long time, he gets banged up and his numbers drop and it's due to him getting a contract.... petty.
Dont' give me that"banged up" stuff. He practically broke his neck last year and still played hard the week he came back.He has been injured a lot with nagging stuff and still ran and played hard. He has no heart left. it's all in the bank and in his TV shows and commercials.
Let's talk numbers.... His numbers haven't dropped this year. They have consisntely sucked all season.
His KR average BARELY gets him past the 20 and with a long of 36. He has also kneeled the ball a ton in the endzone this year. This year will be his first year to not reach 1,000 yards in production. This will probably also be the first year he doesn't get a TD on special teams since playing in the NFL.
His punt returning avg is down over 3 yards from last season. He will also only has a long of 17. Cribbs is also skewing his numbers. Do you know how many times he has let that ball bounce around instead of catching it? He does it 2-3 a game. occasionally he catches it. I wish they changed the stats to include how many times a game they let it bounce around instead of calling for a FC.
his rushing YPC is the worst by far down by a full yard since he has been on the team with 4.3. it is less than Hillis' 4.4 He is also mysteriously down in this category over almost 3 YPC this year too. He has also carried the ball less this year and his longest carry is 18 yards. If his number is called less it should be more effective when he does actually run the ball.
Any other reasons to defend him? this is the NFL not a retirement center where we can talk about the great memories of the past.
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He has no heart left. it's all in the bank and in his TV shows and commercials.
I highly doubt that. However, I can't prove it isn't true, just like you can't prove that it is.
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How many times is a ton and in what situations? Blanket stats suck....especially if they are conjured up.
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I would wager a guess that some teams go years without a ST TD. So he doesn't break his own record this year. (or he may yet, we don't know) The fact is they are kicking away from him and that means he is still feared/respected, injuries and all.
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Do you know how many times he has let that ball bounce around instead of catching it? He does it 2-3 a game. occasionally he catches it.
Yep, that is a travesty, there is no other team in the NFL that has return men that do that!!!!!!!! 
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I'm not sure what the actual problem is with Cribbs but Ive noticed it all season...long before he got hurt. Just doesn't look like the same guy.
But if anyone has earned the benefit of the doubt it's him.
Hopefully he can bounce back next year.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Wonderful. Let's run Cribbs out of town for a bad season too.. this is why Cleveland fans SUCK!!!!!!!
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Cribbs plays hard every snap he's in. He has been ineffective on ST, but it's tough to judge him too much when teams kick away from him and he's also been hurt.
I do think he's more interested in the WR spot than the ST spot. He has to know he will have more longevity in the league as a WR than as a ST guy.
I think he has improved as a WR. And, when he's on the field, even if he doesn't get the ball, he worries defenses.
I'm not going to bag on the guy at all right now. He's still one of my favorite guys on the team.
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jc. Can anyone honestly say it's all Cribbs? Special teams has not been that special this year at all, both coverage and returning, so I highly doubt it's all Cribbs that's failing. Not to mention he hasn't had as many opportunities this years as past. Code:
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Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM
2010 Browns 12 18 242 13.4 20.2 65T 1 3 1 9 0
2009 Browns 16 20 135 6.8 8.4 35 1 2 0 5 2
2008 Browns 15 2 18 9.0 1.2 17 1 0 0 2 0
2007 Browns 16 3 37 12.3 2.3 18 0 0 0 3 1
2006 Browns 16 10 91 9.1 5.7 14 0 0 0 4 1
2005 Browns 14 1 7 7.0 0.5 7 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 89 54 530 9.8 6.0 65 3 5 1 23 4
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Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
2010 Browns 12 17 1.4 58 3.4 4.8 0 19 3 17.6 0 0 1
2009 Browns 16 55 3.4 381 6.9 23.8 1 37 21 38.2 4 0 1
2008 Browns 15 29 1.9 167 5.8 11.1 1 27 12 41.4 2 0 0
2007 Browns 16 9 0.6 61 6.8 3.8 0 18 3 33.3 0 0 0
2006 Browns 16 2 0.1 11 5.5 0.7 0 9 0 0.0 0 0 0
2005 Browns 14 -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
TOTAL 89 112 1.3 678 6.1 7.6 2 37 39 34.8 6 0 2
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Year Team G Ret Yds Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM
2010 Browns 12 27 578 21.4 36 0 14 0 0 1
2009 Browns 16 56 1,542 27.5 103T 3 39 6 0 1
2008 Browns 15 44 1,110 25.2 92T 1 32 3 0 0
2007 Browns 16 59 1,809 30.7 100T 2 49 7 0 1
2006 Browns 16 61 1,494 24.5 92T 1 38 7 0 0
2005 Browns 14 45 1,094 24.3 90T 1 28 5 0 4
TOTAL 89 292 7,627 26.1 103 8 200 28 0 7
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Year Team G Ret RetY Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM
2010 Browns 12 17 140 8.2 17 0 0 0 6 3
2009 Browns 16 38 452 11.9 67T 1 5 3 3 2
2008 Browns 15 28 228 8.1 32 0 1 0 7 0
2007 Browns 16 30 405 13.5 76T 1 6 2 10 3
2006 Browns 16 6 51 8.5 34 0 1 0 3 2
2005 Browns 14 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 89 120 1,281 10.7 76 2 13 5 29 10
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Did we forget that Cribbs hurt his ankle in the second game of the season against Kansas City and has other foot injuries this year as well? The dude has been on the injury list every week but 2 since that game.
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Boy, I sure love a good coincidence. I just came here from another Browns fansite where the exact same conversation was taking place. Dude there was getting his ass handed to him for his myopic "what have you done for me lately?" stance, and it should be no different here. Along with several astute fans of the game, I added my own meager comments. Here it is, word-for-word (While editing out only the name of the poster):
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Go on, take the money and run.
Flying under the radar of ineptitude on offense this season, is someone myself and many of you wanted to keep happy last off season. We supported him big, we screamed "pay the man" on his behalf.
But what the heck happened to Josh Cribbs this year? What has he given in return? 18 receptions for 242 yards and 1 TD. In the last 3 games he has produced 1 catch for 7 yards. Add the rushing yards of -11 and he is up to a grand total of -4 yards of production on offense in the past 3 games.
Kickoff returns, he has a 21.4 average (career low), with a long of 36 (career low), and only 14 of the 27 attempts were over 20 yards (career low), and ZERO TD's (career low). Ranked 56th in the league!!!
Punt returns are not any better. 8.2 average with a long of 17 (career low) and 3 of which he fumbled (career high), and again... ZERO TD's (career low).
Love him or not, the man has not earned a single paycheck this season.
Josh cried for more money because of his expanded role. Then he produces 1.4 catches PER GAME! Expanded role? You call that a wide receiver? I don't. Especially since "Special Teams" has been anything but.
Josh, if you are reading this, and I hope you are, I AM CALLING YOU OUT!
You OWE us fans some effort. You owe us fans some production. You owe us fans some TD's!
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Your issues, by the numbers:
Kick returns: A returner's effectiveness is only as good as his blocking... and his blocking at the point of reception has been much less effective than in years past. You can see it as the ball is dropping into his hands. Gone are the big, gaping holes that allowed him to get a head of steam. Gone is the wedge, which used to almost guarantee a 20 yard head-start. And don't forget, the Browns are playing professional teams, which now have 4 years of tape to draw from. Not surprising that production would be down. Additionally, teams are kicking away from him, which sets us up with a short field anyway.
Punts: even more of the same. Josh was never a jukey, elusive returner to begin with... and now teams are converging sooner than ever.
Expanded role: he can only catch the balls that are thrown to him... and he's done apretty good of of it, when allowed to. Kid sacrifices his body on almost every catch, and has helped us to move the chains on more than one occasion. For him to produce more as a WR, one of two things must happen:
1. His number must be called more often in the huddle
2. He must throw it to himself if Jake won't.
Let's also consider that his "expanded role" probably has him more banged up at this point in the season than he's been in years past. Concussion, dislocated toes, everyday bumps and bruises- all are probably having their effect.
So- let's look at Josh, and see if he's earning his money or stealing his paycheck, shall we?
1. Still fielding KO's
2. Still fielding punts
3. used as our #2/#3 WR
4. Still used in the Flash package
5. Until recently, still being used as a gunner on KO's and punts.
One guy. Sure, he's a "human swiss army knife," but there's only so much "production" that can be expected from a single person, no matter how much raw ability he has.
Usually, "excuses" are just "reasons" that someone doesn't want to hear... but that in itself doesn't dilute their validity.
I want to see Josh break'em off a big piece, too... but that might not happen this year. Just becasue he's not producung as many eye-popping plays for us doesn't mean that he's 'mailing it in' after garnering a big payday... which seems to be what your title and post insinuate. I see a kid who's 1/2 step slower, left exposed by weaker protection schemes, and doing 3 times as many things as he did during his rookie season. Kid's no slacker, if that's where you're going with this thread. Give me 53 guys with JCribbs' heart and dedication, and I'll give you a Lombardi.
just sayin'...
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I got this tweet from Josh Cribbs at 11:03 this morning..
"Sorry Browns Fans yesterday should have been a victory, we won't give up, our fight is strong, & I will get healthier so I can contribute."
I don't care how much money he has in the bank, the guy wants to win more than anybody on this board... anybody that thinks he's mailing it in because he's got the big contract is an idiot..
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i suspect his dislocated toes were a more significant injury. It sure would explain a lost burst of speed. Hopefully he did not rush back too quickly and screw those joints up. Of course that doesn't explain his fumble yesterday, but at least he was able to recover it.
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anybody that thinks he's mailing it in because he's got the big contract is an idiot..
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I remember Josh having plenty of "burst" on the pass play where he injured that foot. Dude ran after the catch like he was shot out of a cannon. Plowed into 3 opposing players, and tried his own 'Hillis hurdle' for extra yards.
But no... he MUST be 'playing soft' because of his money....
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Had a sudden thought and checked it out...
Cribbs ranks 31st for KO return average among regular kick returners....which total 34.
Hopefully Cribbs can learn how to return kickoffs without the wedge.
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Watching Cribbs returns has become blase. He seems to be a step slower- maybe 2 steps slower. And cuts? He doesn't make any - he just sort of "veers" a couple of degrees.
New contract? Who knows. Still hurt? Who knows, although he's been like this all year. Trying to do too much? Who knows. Trying to become a full time rec? Who knows.
I do know he doesn't have it this year.
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Joe Hayden should have been returning kicks not Cribbs as the young man is not his normal self with all the nit picking injuries he has had ... That is a coaching mistake ..
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I'm going to take my sister's boyfriend's view on this: Cribb's has been on The Buffet Tour since getting the new contract.
He's FAR, FAR bulkier/heavier than he was previously - and it ain't even close, and he is nowhere near as quick and shifty - and going off of yesterday, he is not running as hard as he used to.
What's different? HE is.
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IMO (in order of impact on his game):
1. Injury
2. Teams kicking away from him (particularly on punts)
3. Injuries to other ST players
4. He just hasn't played his best football this year (but I'm not buying the BS about him being content with his bigger pay check)
5. Decidedly average blocking in the return game (see #3)
6. His increased role in the offense (when healthy)
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who cares about the average? Look at our starting field position after kickoffs in the cincy game!
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Avg starting field position off of kickoffs: 32.5 yard line.
GMAB dudes. Just him being back there is giving us 7-10 yards of field position.
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This is what I see when I compare Cribbs today to Cribbs of the past couple of years:
When Cribbs would hit the scrum (where blockers encounter tacklers) in the past, he would find a lane and hit it, shifting into a higher gear. He kept his head up, and made a move depending on what he saw.
Yesterday, as in other games this year, he kind of jogged to where his blockers made contact, put his head down, and lunged into the pile.
He's not keeping his head up like he used to. I don't think he is looking at the field like he used to. It appears to me that he is being tackled by the "first guy" a lot more than he ever was in the past.
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I think they were all middle returns. Never got outside while I was watching. Not a bunch, but less than we like. Hope he heals up and gets back to previous self. If this is all he has left, well, return doodz get used up & have a short shelf life. 
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Cleveland Browns' Josh Cribbs is playing through pain: 'This is Cleveland.'
Published: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 7:29 PM Updated: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 10:45 PM
By Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer
BEREA, Ohio — Last year the fans screamed, "Pay the man." And the Browns did. Josh Cribbs' payback is to "Play the man." He's playing when others with similar injuries might not.
Cribbs has been playing with pain in his right foot since suffering four dislocated toes in the Jets game Nov. 14.
"Before I got it, I couldn't describe what a pain like this would feel like," Cribbs said Thursday. "That's why there are some moves I can't make. Sometimes I'll feel 100 percent, and then I make a move and it will remind me."
The injury caused soft tissue damage to the plantar plate, or beneath the ball of the foot. He feels pain when putting pressure on that area. It limits his ability to cut and change direction. His kick returns are limited to running straight ahead.
The question is why doesn't Cribbs just sit and let the injury heal? The answer embodies the essence of Cribbs as a football player.
"I could easily sit down and be like, 'Coach, I'm gonna try to take care of myself for next year.' But I love football too much," Cribbs said. "Even one of my teammates said, 'If you're not good, sit down.' I can't sit down.
"This is football. This is what it's all about, pushing through injuries, going to work when you don't have to, and battling. This is Cleveland. What would I be, having a foot injury and not going to work? And make the money I'm supposed to make. People have to work with worse circumstances than me. So the least I can do is push through the injuries and try to do as much as I can for the team."
Before Cribbs' injury, he was not having a typically great year in the return game because teams were kicking away from him. He was averaging 21.9 yards a kickoff return, well below his career average of 26.6. Since the injury, his average has been 17.9 yards on 13 returns.
But the threat of Cribbs on the field still influences opponents. Even though the Browns are last with an average kickoff return of 17.4 yards, they improve to 12th with an average drive start after kickoffs of 27.5 yards.
And that is because of the respect opponents have for Cribbs.
"I took myself out one game early [at Jacksonville]," Cribbs said. "The kid [Clifton Smith] that came in, he didn't do too well. He's a good player, but he set us back a little bit. I feel in the position I'm in, I am good enough to not hurt my team.
"Maybe I can't do what I'm capable of doing -- the explosiveness -- but I wasn't hurting my team. If you look at last week, we averaged the 32-yard line [after kickoffs]. That's a pretty good starting point. I'm trying to help the offense's starting point."
The respect Cribbs has earned over five years of scintillating returns also is reflected in fan balloting for the AFC Pro Bowl team. Despite enduring the worst season of his career, Cribbs won the fan vote for kick returner going away.
Cribbs' chances of going to a third Pro Bowl in six years rests with the vote among AFC players and coaches. The all-star teams will be announced next week.
"They're voting for who they think is best," Cribbs said of the fans. "Even though I didn't play as good as I wanted to, I'm sure everyone is aware of my ability and what I'm capable of. I didn't have the year I wanted to have, but that still doesn't negate the type of player I am."
Some fans have criticized Cribbs for resting on his laurels -- namely, the contract restructuring last spring that guaranteed him over $7 million and could have netted him as much as $20 million in new money.
"None of my fans think that," he said. "People who say that aren't Browns fans. They don't know me."
Coach Eric Mangini said: "He's trying to be as productive and explosive as he can. He's a guy that has tremendous pride and commitment to the team. He's what you'd want from a team perspective. So he's frustrated by it, too."
The injury also curtailed Cribbs' season as an offensive playmaker and pretty much shelved the Browns' sometimes-grandiose plans for an exotic wildcat package.
"It has been humbling," Cribbs said of his season overall. "It's been mostly disappointing for me not to give some great fans what they deserve in my play, and from a team standpoint. I wanted to do so many great things to help my team, to produce for my team, and I wasn't able to. So I take that as a personal loss."
Cribbs is still the NFL all-time leader with eight career touchdowns on kickoff returns. He has scored on a return in each of his five NFL seasons before this one. He truly believes he has one left in him. He would like nothing better than to help the Browns beat their rivals Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the remaining games with a big return.
"That's what I'm trying to get accomplished," Cribbs said. "I need to score to let them know we still have a powerful kick return unit. We have yet to show it."
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It's cool Cribbs, we understand you are hurt. We are just so use to you helping the Browns out, that we miss it.
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If he can't go, he shouldn't be on the field. He's not helping us by playing hurt, and he might be hurting himself worse. The coach should sit him, imo.
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It's cool Cribbs, we understand you are hurt. We are just so use to you helping the Browns out, that we miss it.
A lot of people don't understand squat. They say he has gotten fat and/or let the money go to his head.
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He really doesn't even make that much money, relatively speaking. Not like he hit an Albert Haynesworth type payday or anything. To me it seems as though he gave us a home team discount.
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