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And yes, I put the apostrophe in because that is the way the owner spelled it. Strip club owner posts “No Negroes Allowed” sign Posted: 12/08/2010 NBC - Posted by Charles Ray ABBOTSFORD, Wisconsin - A sign excluding black people from a future Abbotsford, Wisconsin business is enraging some people in the small town. It's a sign generations of people may have never seen, yet Mark Prior says it's his right to discriminate. "If I've got a problem with you it's going to be on the front of my store," says Mark Prior. Prior posted his 'No Negros Allowed' sign after he says he had some problems with black people in the past and needed to make a policy against them. Federal and State law says if the business is open to the public, prohibiting people based on race is illegal. If the man's proposed gentlemen's club was going to be a private club, then an African American historian says he could discriminate. Legalities aside, his is a sign that many say is appalling. "I'm going to stick to my guns because I think I have the right as a business owner to reject service to anyone. It's not all the black people there are just a few bad ones," Prior says of his problems in the past. Prior wants to open a gentlemen's club in a building next to the Abbotsford city hall and library. He says he moved his sign inside after someone with the city asked him to remove it. "Our mistake is sometimes we look for logic in something that is just plain stupid," says Dr. Selika Ducksworth-Lawton, an African American historian at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. Ducksworth-Lawton says she feels Prior is out to get attention. She says the second he opens his business, he'll be in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Copyright 2010 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Linkarooskie ________________________________________ The guy is a racist and a moron.. I doubt if we even need to debate that... but on a constitutional level, should the guy have the right to exclude people, based on whatever criteria he wants, from his own private business? Funny thing I heard on talk radio when they were discussing it, this town claims 4000 residents and per the information they quoted, it was something like .013% black... which is 5 people.
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on a constitutional level, should the guy have the right to exclude people, based on whatever criteria he wants, from his own private business?
I wish you could do that in business...I have a couple really crappy customers that make me run for the office when I see them coming. Can I put up a sign that says "No Biches"?
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Whether this is legal for private clubs or illegal... the wording of the sign makes him sound like a bigot.
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Personally I'm more surprised they don't have better zoning laws than to allow a gentleman's club in a building next to the city hall and a library than I am the fact there are still moronic bigots walking among us.
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At least this is Wisconsin and not Alabama or this thread would be 3 pages long talking about all the redneck hillbillies in the south, how they haven't gotten over the War between the States, and somehow the federal government needs to crack down on the racist south as a whole. 
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It's disturbing that people still feel this way. Legal or not it is disgusting and I hope his business goes under.
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At least this is Wisconsin and not Alabama or this thread would be 3 pages long talking about all the redneck hillbillies in the south, how they haven't gotten over the War between the States, and somehow the federal government needs to crack down on the racist south as a whole.
Coming from a racist southerner like you, that comment doesn't surprise me.  
I know that I want to put a sign on my door. "General public not welcome because you're all morons."
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Did anyone else note that the author or poster of this article (not Ytown) is Charles Ray... as in, Ray Charles  Just a little levity for ya all..
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I just can't get past that it's a friggin' STRIP CLUB. Keep that place classy, Mr.Prior. 
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The guy is a racist and a moron.. I doubt if we even need to debate that... but on a constitutional level, should the guy have the right to exclude people, based on whatever criteria he wants, from his own private business?
Since I am not a lawyer of any kind my opinion is worthless. That being said I believe he is/should be allowed to discriminate if it is a truly private club. It sure sounds to me that it is opened to the public which would make it illegal to discriminate.
I do not believe any public establishment should be able to discriminate against a group of people based on race or religion.
However, I believe business owners should have the right to bar individuals from their establishments based on how the conduct themselves. I only bring this up to answer Michelle's question about banning the bitches ( and myself) from her store.
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Personally I'm more surprised they don't have better zoning laws than to allow a gentleman's club in a building next to the city hall and a library than I am the fact there are still moronic bigots walking among us.
^^^ Was my very first thought.
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I would have just said "No NY Pro Football WRs allowed", and left it at that ........
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^^^ Was my very first thought.
My first thought was. With a population of 4000, What is the quality of the girls going to be like?
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If I were only in Wisconsin... I'd walk up right in there..... U gonna shoot me? This a different time and day... The past can't be erased.. but I be darned if it gets revisited... would be hilarious if this guy paid a visit..  sidenote: he probably doesn't have much in there to see anyway..
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The guy doesn't go far enough.
He should put up a bigger sign that says:
"No Whites, Orientals, Arabs, Turks, Native Americans, Indians, Afghans, Negros, Pacific Islanders, Southern Europeans, Greeks, Egyptians, or any other race I failed to mention"
Then, see how well his business does.
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You know, I gave this a lot of thought on my way to work today, battling over the moral imperatives that such a story suggests.
And, in the end, my conclusion was, I can handle the racism and stereotyping. But if there's one thing I can't excuse with this guy is his blatant ignorance of proper grammar and spelling. "Negros"? That's just inexcusable.
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Just playing devil's advocate here....maybe he didnt want the violence and gun culture in his establishment that is so prevalent among many young black males??.
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Did anyone else note that the author or poster of this article (not Ytown) is Charles Ray...
as in, Ray Charles Just a little levity for ya all..
For a little more livety on this moron.
I bet he used the word "negroes" to be politically correct in his mind.
What an idiot
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Funny thing I heard on talk radio when they were discussing it, this town claims 4000 residents and per the information they quoted, it was something like .013% black... which is 5 people.
This IS funny.
In a town of 4k people? They need one of those? Half the people will be related to the independent contractors that work there.
The whole thing is just... icky.
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Funny thing I heard on talk radio when they were discussing it, this town claims 4000 residents and per the information they quoted, it was something like .013% black... which is 5 people.
This IS funny.
In a town of 4k people? They need one of those? Half the people will be related to the independent contractors that work there.
The whole thing is just... icky.
Why do you have a problem with that? We have a whole state (and the Pittsburgh area) where marrying family members is the norm.
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My first thought was. With a population of 4000, What is the quality of the girls going to be like?
Really? That is all you can think of? You are nothing more than a chauvinist pig who objectifies women. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Just playing devil's advocate here....maybe he didnt want the violence and gun culture in his establishment that is so prevalent among many young black males??.
Um ... that's not playing devils advocate... that's being a stereotypical bigot just like the owner of the club is. Congrats I was wondering how long it took before someone on this board posted some moronic crap in this thread.
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Just playing devil's advocate here....maybe he didnt want the violence and gun culture in his establishment that is so prevalent among many young black males??.
Um ... that's not playing devils advocate... that's being a stereotypical bigot just like the owner of the club is. Congrats I was wondering how long it took before someone on this board posted some moronic crap in this thread.
No, he just brought up a point that he never said he believed in or was legitimate. I do believe you implied he was being a stereotypical bigot. Am I wrong?
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So a disproportionately large amount of violent crime and gun related crime does not involve young black males?
Now I don't know if this is going to be a problem in a small town in Wisconsin but nationally....
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Well, it's really a different kind of "gun" crime in a strip club.
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Most guys are usually "packing heat" around those kinds of establishments.
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And negligent discharge of said "guns" is probably not uncommon either.
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Um ... that's not playing devils advocate... that's being a stereotypical bigot just like the owner of the club is. Congrats I was wondering how long it took before someone on this board posted some moronic crap in this thread.
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So if someone speaks the truth - even though it is not politically correct truth - it isn't truth? It makes them a bigot?
The truth is blacks make up about 12.9% of the u.s. population.
Check the crime reports, check the prison population. Then come back here and call him a bigot.
On a side note - actually, getting back to the thread: I'm no constitutional lawyer, thank God - so I don't know if the guy has a right to do this or not. But, I would hope the people of that community and area would boycott the business.
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If there was no loophole around this, I would think this through more in depth and give you my opinion.
but the reality is, he can call it a private club and allow whoever he wants to join and exlude anyone he wants to based on anything.
When you call it "public" the law makes it clear that you can not do so.
You can have a doorman who simply says "You are not eligable for the club" and choose who gets in. Any time you let someone in, give them a cheaply mass printed "club card".
By his actions, he has chosen to bring the attention upon himself and his business that very well could cause his area a great deal of problems with visitors and crowds disrupting things and major legal troubles. His stance may not only effect him negatively, but his entire community as an end result.
To try to overturn laws based on principal is one thing, to defy it to the point of creating chaos is another.
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Let me preface this by telling you all that my father was 100% Mexican, my mother is 100% white, and my wife is African American. Having wrote that, here are my thoughts:
I'm 32 years old, served in the Marines, graduated from college, and worked for several large corporations.
When it comes to political issues in the US, what I've learned is that White men are not allowed to be assertive without being labeled as a racist or a sexist.
We live in neoliberal America, where you have to hire and promote people based on their sex, and ethnicity. Neoliberals do not care about putting the best possible people in earned positions because neoliberals are usually people who find it easier to coast through life attached to other people.
Rather than concentrating on what they can and should do to improve their lives and careers, neoliberals blame capitalism, religion, and family values as the root of their problems.
When people who believed in America were allowed to be assertive, this country was an economic and political powerhouse. Now, we have a bunch of neoliberal underachievers who claim that America's problems reside in social policy. Neoliberals do not want Americans to believe in God, family, or responsible citizenship. - I wonder why?
Why? Because neoliberals find it a lot easier to blame their misfortune on everybody around them than they do to hold themselves accountable for their position in life.
Having a strong, close knit, family requires dedication, caring, and commitment. Essentially, having a strong family unit requires hard work. - And neoliberals do not believe in hard work.
Rather than hold people accountable for their actions, neoliberals expect America to socially evolve into a complete craphole. Neoliberals say that the American workforce should focus on gender and racial equity before it focuses on becoming the best workforce in the world. Neoliberals say that people who have money are responsible for taking care of people who don't have money. - Nevermind the fact that the people who have money had to work and develop themselves so that they could make a good amount of money. - Neoliberals don't want that. Neoliberals hate the concept of personal development because it takes work to develop oneself. And again, I claim, neoliberals hate to work.
Neoliberals do not understand the difference between reality and idealism. Neoliberals do not feel that we need to profile Arabic people at the airport. - Yes we do folks. Arabic people hate the US because of our global supremacy, they are jealous of us. Ideally, no we shouldn't have to profile Arabic people at airports. However, because hijackers tend to be Arabic, we would be complete mindless idiots not to profile them. - Yes, profiling Arabs means we have to work harder and we all know, again, that neolibarals hate to work.
Neoliberals feel that people should be allowed to be openly gay in the military. I suppose there is nothing wrong with this, until a platoon gets ambushed because their firewatch consisted of two gay guys who were having sex when they should have been on patrol. - Of course, this has not happened yet, but we are not allowed to be assertive and prevent it from happening. We are at the mercy of neoliberals, the same group of people who don't believe in profiling at airports - look where that got us. Let's let a platoon get ambushed, then we'll have reason to shy away from neoliberal doctrine.
In the American that my parents grew up in, neoliberals didn't have as much clout. That's probably why my mother, father, aunts, uncles grandmother, and grandfather used to reflect on how great America used to be. - A country with smaller government, and more opportunity to control your own destiny.
In the America that my daughter grows up in, neoliberal social agenda has led to the government forcing me to take care of lazy people, it has led to my sisters,wife,myself, and several of my friends, get passed over for jobs because of our gender and/or race. A policy that has led to corporations becoming less efficient and less profitable. In my daughter's America, laziness and the willingness to milk the American populace for welfare, vouchers, and food stamps will be the ticket to prosperity. All she will have to do is join up with the growing mass of people who find it easier to cling on to other people than to put in the work to develop herself.
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Didn't you know...that's all gay people do is have sex. Especially when on duty.
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Muni I agree with every single word.. except the part about the gay guys in the fox hole.. I'd say it's just as likely that you could have a man and a woman in a fox hole.. or a guy wanking himself or a guy that just fell asleep... I have my own concerns about allowing open homosexuality in the military but to say that a gay person would be less conscious of their duty, while on duty, is just unfair.
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Didn't you know...that's all gay people do is have sex. Especially when on duty.
I do know that men and women would hook up while on duty all of the time. There are a couple of differences with what I saw. They were attracted to each other and they weren't in combat.
I suspect that it wouldn't matter to a couple of gay guys if they are openly gay or not. If they have some kind of relationship hiding who they are publicly wouldn't matter.If they wanted to sneak off.
They are no different than straight people, with the exception of combat troops in the field. Woman are still not allowed on combat missions as far as I know.
I want to also point out that way back when I was in the Navy we had issues with women getting pregnant aboard ships. I'm fairly confident some of this happened when the women were on liberty. howeuer there was a lot that couldn't be explained away.
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I'd walk up right in there..... U gonna shoot me?
This a different time and day... The past can't be erased.. but I be darned if it gets revisited...
would be hilarious if this guy paid a visit..
sidenote: he probably doesn't have much in there to see anyway..
It is a different time and day.
My attitude is you just shrug it off....being different time and day.
Confronting them just perpetuates the problem.
If a black business owner did the same, I would't go and let him or her go out of business.
Now, I understand the numbers don't favor the black business owner as they do a white business owner, but I think on a whole, the attitude of the general population does.
No way he stays in business with that sign even if nothing from a legal proceeding forced him out of business.
Give 'Whitey" a little credit.....80% aren't going to support that...I would't and and I know I am viewed as a bigot by many around here.....really, I am not.
Plus....I like to see some black strippers as well....I like them all....if blacks couldn't enter, I guess he wouldn't hire them either.
It probably won't be in my lifetime as I am a bit old, but it won't be too far in to the future before this black white thing is in the pas for good.
You are fairly young, so be sure it doesn't perpetuate from you side as that is how things usually swing, like a pendulum...
If some idiot doesn't want to let you in....win by spending your money somewhere else.
Really.....honest talk here.
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Perhaps I'm a bit more pessimistic but I don't think it will be in my lifetime and I believe I'm 20 years younger than you... the reason I don't think it will go away is because too many people (powerful people) have too much invested in keeping it alive. Their very existence is based on finding racism and frequently they find it whether it exists or not... and I don't see them going away.. I suppose they could be marginalized (and for the most part most of them already are) but they aren't going to go away completely... 500 years from now if humans still walk the earth they will be divided into groups and some members of those groups will distrust and dislike other groups... it is human nature..
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Agreed 100% Gay people and straight people are no different than one another. Some people are born gay and some people are born not gay. - Pure and simple. - I believe in gay marriage, because again, being gay is as natural as being not gay.
In today's military, you are allowed to be gay. But you cannot be openly gay. The reason behind this, in my opinion, is because the emotions involved with being in a sexual relationship can compromise mission accomplishment. - This is why, in today's military, men and women are not allowed to serve in combat together.
Which brings up another, and bigger social issue in the military. Marine Corps boot camp consists of 12 weeks on either Parris Island, or MCRD San Diego. Women who join the Marine Corps have to undergo the same exact tests throughout basic training as men do. That means passing the rifle range, passing the fitness test, and passing the crucible at the end of boot camp. Essentially, women who become Marines have proven themselves to be as competent as men to serve as infantry in the Marines. However, women are not allowed to serve in the infantry or any other ground combat operations. - This is a legitimate social issue.
Yet, nobody is arguing on behalf of women who want to be part of the Marine Corps infantry. Neoliberals are too busy with their personal agenda, and that is why they focus on the fact that service members are not allowed to be openly gay.
Personally, I think our government should focus on giving women the opportunity to serve in the infantry if they want to. - They have to prove themselves capable of this during boot camp, so why deprive them of the opportunity to see combat if they want to? The reasoning here is that human emotions could compromise mission accomplishment. So why not form infantry battalions that consist only of women? - This is responsible social change.
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