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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The Ohio State University Buckeyes' football lineup for the upcoming Sugar Bowl could take a major hit -- and, this one's not at the line of scrimmage, either. Sources tell ABC6/FOX28 News that Ohio State officials are meeting for a second straight day to consider compliance issues involving high-profile players on the football team. The issues could impact the players' participation in the Sugar Bowl. Attempts to contact OSU Athletic Director Gene Smith and Head Football Coach Jim Tressel on Wednesday were unsuccessful. One source indicates that there might be some official comment made by Thursday, including notice of possible suspensions. Ohio State spokesman Dan Wallenberg told ABC6 News that "There is nothing that I'm aware of."Buckeye Lineup Could Take Hit Before Sugar Bowl http://www.myfox28columbus.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wtte_vid_8369.shtmlProbably not something that will get any real heat from the NCAA, but we could possibly see suspensions for the bowl game? I've heard it's about players being given free tatoos for autographs.
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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The Ohio State University Buckeyes' football lineup for the upcoming Sugar Bowl could take a major hit -- and, this one's not at the line of scrimmage, either.
Sources tell ABC6/FOX28 News that Ohio State officials are meeting for a second straight day to consider compliance issues involving high-profile players on the football team.
The issues could impact the players' participation in the Sugar Bowl.
Attempts to contact OSU Athletic Director Gene Smith and Head Football Coach Jim Tressel on Wednesday were unsuccessful.
One source indicates that there might be some official comment made by Thursday, including notice of possible suspensions.
Ohio State spokesman Dan Wallenberg told ABC6 News that "There is nothing that I'm aware of."Buckeye Lineup Could Take Hit Before Sugar Bowl
http://www.myfox28columbus.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wtte_vid_8369.shtml
Probably not something that will get any real heat from the NCAA, but we could possibly see suspensions for the bowl game?
I've heard it's about players being given free tatoos for autographs.
Bet Auburn wishes that's all it had been,...I'll trade that anyday for a big bag of cash.
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I heard it was that some of them were drug runners from Colombia.
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Autographs...It was OSU players teaching Michigan player how to write, NCAA officials just dont wanna admit they dont know the diffrence either.
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Some pretty big boys are out for the first five games of next year according to The Really Big Show.
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Yes he is, this isn't as bad as what newton did.
Also if they are suspended for the first 5 games
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@ Miami - train wreck right now
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We have an insane recruiting class coming in. So if Pryor can play we should be fine.
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I'm not sure how getting free tattoos for autographs = 5 game suspensions? Ohio State should not get a pass on breaking the rules but this seems awfully severe for the alleged violations.
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I think there would have to be.
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Five Ohio State players sanctioned ESPN.com news services COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Five Ohio State football players, including quarterback Terrell Pryor, must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits, the NCAA ruled Thursday. A sixth football student-athlete must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules. All of the players be eligible for the Jan. 4 Sugar Bowl, however. Five players were found to have sold awards, gifts and university apparel, plus receiving improper benefits in 2009. In addition to missing five games next season, Pryor, Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, Devier Posey and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity. Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete. The NCAA announced the suspensions on Thursday, shortly before Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith and coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos. Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring and Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150. Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university. Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155. "These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs, said in a statement released by the NCAA. The players are eligibile for the bowl game because the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said. Information from The Associated Press is included in this report. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5950873
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Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.
Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.
Yeah I just saw that.
The NCAA better pray nothing comes up for Cam Newton. Believe me, this whole Cam Newton mess is going to haunt the NCAA for years to come. They made a huge mistake.
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Wait, so they can't even sell their own property?
So, not only are they out the property (those rings), but they're out the money, too?
That is beyond pathetically stupid.
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From the report Ohio State University is not to blame. Also, these kids seem to not give a crap, selling off awards? Most players would probably kill to get these type of things.
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Granted, I'm not a fan of anything Buckeyes... but it seems dirtier than dirty that these "kids" sold their gold pants. I would think to true Buckeye honks that doing that would put you in a special kind of hell.
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Wait, so they can't even sell their own property?
So, not only are they out the property (those rings), but they're out the money, too?
That is beyond pathetically stupid.
I agree with your point. I just can't believe these kids are so ungrateful.
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So, not only are they out the property (those rings), but they're out the money, too?
That is beyond pathetically stupid.
AJ Green got suspended for selling his bowl game jersey.
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Doesn't seem like anything to me, but stupid that they are getting hammered for it. Dumb rules. They were legally, within the rules, given those things... what they do with them after that should be totally up to them.
Do I think the kids are short-sighted, stupid and will regret giving up those things when they're older? Absolutely... but I think the NCAA is out of its collective gourd on this.
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So, not only are they out the property (those rings), but they're out the money, too?
That is beyond pathetically stupid.
AJ Green got suspended for selling his bowl game jersey.
And if it was HIS jersey, that HE owned, then that is beyond pathetically stupid.
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I hope Cam Newton was given over 200k and a cadillac just so I can see this blow up in the NCAAs face
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Bye bye Pryor and Posey. I fully expect them both to enter the draft. Herron might as well.
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Depending upon what happens with the CBA, this could be a HUGE draft.
There is the potential that a Rookie Cap will finally get put in place - but this next class may be "grandfathered" in.
If so, and if it happens before the deadline for them to declare, I would expect there to be a HUGE rush of underclassmen declaring.
If the same agreement happens later on - this could be the best Supplemental Draft ever.
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Not condoning this but with school and football these guys don't have a lot of off time to have part time jobs like regular students so they sell off their stuff to have some spending money.
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Breaking news: Terrell Pryor found to have sold his Biology and Economics textbooks on Craigslist, suspended for remainder of 2011 season.
I agree with Purp. Punishing players for selling personal property is beyond stupid.
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I told anyone who would listen to me that he was a punk who'd never live up to the hype during his diva act he pulled during recruitment.
Now 3 years later of embarrassing comments and underwhelming on-field play, this happens.
Let's start the Braxton Miller era.
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I told anyone who would listen to me that he was a punk who'd never live up to the hype during his diva act he pulled during recruitment.
Now 3 years later of embarrassing comments and underwhelming on-field play, this happens.
Let's start the Braxton Miller era.
I heard Colin Cowherd saying he had a source close to Pryor saying he had all the talent in the world, but it would be only a matter of time before he screwed up.
Pryor has to be one of the biggest all time recruiting busts in OSU history. Man, I can't believe how excited I was when he announced he was coming to Ohio State.
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Wait, so they can't even sell their own property?
So, not only are they out the property (those rings), but they're out the money, too?
That is beyond pathetically stupid.
AJ Green got suspended for selling his bowl game jersey.
And if it was HIS jersey, that HE owned, then that is beyond pathetically stupid.
Sorry prpl, it's not beyond pathetically stupid. The university gives these guys tons of stuff from sweats to t-shirts to hats to shoes to practice jerseys, they get tons more when they play in bowl games... it's for personal use...
If they are allowed to sell it then what is to prevent the university from giving them 10 helmets so they can sign 9 of them and sell them? Or what if a benevolent friend of the program decided that he wanted to buy his favorite players bowl jersey for... oh, $200,000. It would create a very easy backdoor way for the programs to pay the players...
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Just imagine how good of a WR he will be in the nfl, however. He can be a diva WR in the nfl. He is so smooth, fast, tall .... I wish Ohio State would go back to having a more pro-style offense with a pocket passer so I hope he bolts for the NFL
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We're not talking about selling jerseys and helmets and sweatpants (other than the case of Dan Herron). We're talking about selling awards and trophies, things the players have earned.
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They earned them through their association with the program, if the rules say they are not allowed to sell them until they get out of college then those are the rules... but my argument still stands.. it's not as easy but it could still result in a backdoor way to funnel cash to your better players...
Keep in mind, I'm in favor of allowing programs to give players some cash in a controlled manner....
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Bye bye Pryor and Posey. I fully expect them both to enter the draft. Herron might as well.
Any thoughts as to which round Pryor, Posey, and Herron would be selected?
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Bye bye Pryor and Posey. I fully expect them both to enter the draft. Herron might as well.
Any thoughts as to which round Pryor, Posey, and Herron would be selected?
Pryor could be a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Posey in the 3rd, and Herron in the 5th or so. JMO.
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If they are allowed to sell it then what is to prevent the university from giving them 10 helmets so they can sign 9 of them and sell them? Or what if a benevolent friend of the program decided that he wanted to buy his favorite players bowl jersey for... oh, $200,000. It would create a very easy backdoor way for the programs to pay the players...
Simple: limit the university on what it can issue to a player. What's to stop the player from buying his own helmets, signing them and selling them?
The article states that this is because they "sold awards", which suggests a distinction in selling vs. selling true personal effects not obtained due to the sports program.... if side-stepping this sort of thing is such a problem, what safe guard stops a "good samaritan" from buying a pair of dress socks from the player for, oh, $200,000? The answer is nothing.
At some point, you have to use some common sense instead of blindly applying a blanket law whose strict interpretation and enforcement does not fit every situation.
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PrP .. I just don't get this at all .. The way the University's USE all their name athleltes !! Then they pull something like this .. Horse feathers !
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Your argument here really doesn't stand. None of these players can call up the Big 10 and say "hey, I lost my championship ring, can I have another one?" So, no, its not the same thing. If someone wants to pay that player a sum of money for a piece of private property then it is the player's right to sell and the buyer's right to purchase. One could easily make the argument that school apparel and uniforms are property of the university provided to the student for his personal use as a replenishible benefit from university to student. You can't make that argument with awards and trophies.
This isn't necessarily the same situation as AJ Green selling his jersey, since his suspension stemmed from the fact that he sold his jersey to the representative of an agent, which the NCAA deemed to be improper contact with an agent. I also don't believe that the outcome of this would be any different if you exchanged the words "Championship trophy" for "XBox 360" or "Schwinn bicycle". The NCAA has no place and is not in the business of regulating private transactions for personal property between individuals, and has quite overstepped their boundaries in this instance, in my opinion.
If the NCAA has a rule in place then they have to enforce the rule. However, I've seen nothing that says there's a rule that a player cannot sell awards or trophies or other personal effects. Maybe somebody can direct us towards that one.
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My guess is that the universities, and the NCAA in particular, do not want competition in the collectables and merchandising world.
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Five players were found to have sold awards, gifts and university apparel, plus receiving improper benefits in 2009.
I don't know what Tressel has to do to drive the point home to his players, that there are NCAA rules and all OSU players must abide by those rules, or they will pay a price if caught.
You know the coaching staff as well the OSU athletic dept go over the NCAA rules that all athletes must abide by. Obviously, some of the football players did not take the rules seriously or they thought NCAA rules did not apply to them.
Honestly, I have little doubt these guys knew what they were doing was wrong...and they still did it.
Some will excuse the players behavior and claim, "they just made a mistake"...
I sure won't make excuses for the insanely stupid behavior of these players, even if I am a lifetime Buckeye fan.
Maybe OSU athletes don't get it...everyone must abide by NCAA rules. Maybe the best way to get the point across to the rest of the athletes who play sports at Ohio State, is to give the maximum punishment to the football players involved.
I wouldn't have a problem if Tressel and the University made an example of all the players involved and kicked all of them off the team.
Now Tressel will find out what kind of men these individuals are. If they run from their punishment and leave OSU thinking they are ready to make some big bucks by taking their game to the Pros...good, get the hell out, ASAP.
If they accept their punishment, rededicate themselves to the University and the football program, they could turn this moment into a valuable lesson in life.
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I'm not Ohio State fan.
But I have a question...
If these players signed autographs for someone close to them, let's say their father, and then he sold the autographs, would that be a problem?
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