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I like many have bashed our WR corp plenty. I have scorched Robo to death with my fellow OSU fans disbelieving it. But as the season wore on and the reality that Daboll was running the worst conceived offense in the league, I now wonder if they are as bad as we thought.

No I don't think we have a #1 guy, but I also think Robo has been hurt developmentally by the ineptness of the offensive staff. McDonald was a baffling hire to me when he came in. The keeping of Daboll was even more baffling.

I honestly think Robo could turn out to be a good slot/possession reciever. MoMass could be a very effective #2 guy. When McCoy first took the helm and started to actually throw to these guys things changed. Then when Jake came back after Colt was hurt, they seemed to show up more. IMO the offense the team was running, and the joke of a coordinator that was calling the plays hindered both these guys.

Daboll was a offensive assistant and I believe a QB coach. I think that may be why Colt liked him, he was still working at that level even though he should have been at a higher level as OC.

I can't see guys like Holmgren and Heckert, with their experience and ability to spot talent, thinking we needed more and settling for these guys. There were some available players out there, and I tend to believe they thought these guys posessed enough talent to do the job. IMO, they to saw that the OC and offensive staff could not develop talent and thus it became another reason for a change.

IMO Robo, and Massaquoi can become viable players, if a competent OC and offensive coaching staff is put into place. Also, if a true #1 is acquired, they may even blossom into effective players.

jc...

Funnily enough, it was only a little more than a year ago that people were saying what a great exchange Braylon for Stuckey was, and that they'd have swapped them straight up.

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You're the villain who didn't like the coach. Now he's fired and it's all your fault!

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Naaa, Hes just the village idiot who keeps bringing up this mock draft, as if that and the real thing have any relationship in the real world. Freaking mock draft , I can beleive the board is not coming down on him harder.

Thanks Django, you're absolutely right here. Stuckey easily best-filled the role he was given of our wide receivers. Massaquoi had a decent year for a rookie but showed no improvement this year, especially in the aspects you'd expect improvement (routes, adjustments to throws, etc.) In fact, he probably regressed a little. It's hard to say how much since we basically don't have any wide receivers in our offense.

As far as Robiskie being a slot guy... please, no. Like I've said all along (and like Daboll seemed to start to realize by the end of the season) he's at his best downfield one-on-one where he can outposition, outjump, and outtime the DB for the catch.

j/c

Thought this could go here:

Position Review: Wide Receivers

By Matt Florjancic, ClevelandBrowns.com Staff Writer

The Browns had good production from their young corps of wide receivers in 2010.

Overview:

With Chansi Stuckey, Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi and Joshua Cribbs, the Browns had a young, yet productive group of wide receivers in 2010.

They combined for six touchdowns and 1,431 yards on 128 receptions. Stuckey, Massaquoi, Robiskie and Cribbs had 18 receptions that went for 20 or more yards and those big plays started in the season opener at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

During the first quarter of play, Jake Delhomme threw a 41-yard touchdown to Massaquoi. One week later, in the second quarter of the home opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, Cribbs ran a post route over the middle of the formation and caught a 65-yard touchdown from Seneca Wallace. It was the Browns’ longest completion and second-longest offensive play of 2010.

Later in the season, Massaquoi registered 81 yards on four receptions in a 13-10 win over the Miami Dolphins at Sun Life Stadium December 5. Massaquoi caught passes of 37 and 33 yards in the third quarter of play.

On the road at Cincinnati, Robiskie caught the first touchdown on his NFL career, a 46-yarder that drew the Browns within two points in the waning minutes of the game.

One of the more interesting touchdowns of 2010 came when Massaquoi took a pitch from Peyton Hillis against the Baltimore Ravens. Massaquoi lofted a 29-yard pass into the end zone where Robiskie cradled it near the right sidelines of the East end of Cleveland Browns Stadium for the touchdown.

Outstanding Performer:

Robiskie caught only seven passes for 106 yards and no touchdowns during his rookie season in 2009. With the additions of quarterbacks Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and the development of rookie Colt McCoy, Robiskie showed progress in 2010.

Robiskie caught 29 passes for 310 yards and tied with tight end Benjamin Watson for the team lead with three touchdowns receptions.

Key Stat:

Three.

Massaquoi, Robiskie and Cribbs caught three touchdowns of longer than 40 yards. Cribbs hauled in the 65-yard touchdown in the Browns’ loss to the Chiefs. Robiskie caught a 46-yard touchdown at Cincinnati and Massaquoi corralled a 41-yard score in the season-opener at Tampa Bay.

What To Watch For:

The continued progress of the young wide receivers will be a key component to the development of the Browns offense in 2011. Robiskie and Massaquoi will be entering their third NFL seasons and will have another training camp of work with McCoy and the offense when the regular season begins.

The Browns also have Carlton Mitchell, a 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide receiver who did not have a reception, but had a nine-yard run during his rookie season out of the University of South Florida. Mitchell showed speed on that nine-yard run and an end-around in the preseason loss at the Detroit Lions in August. The son of a former professional basketball player and cut-woman for boxer Antonio Tarver, Mitchell brings size, speed and athleticism to the Browns.

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Robo & MoMass should do better in '11 (3rd year) with some QB stability, a true #1 and an OC. Had to at this:

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The Browns had good production from their young corps of wide receivers in 2010.

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If that doesn't exemplify the prototypical baseless optimism commonly shared regarding this team, nothing does.

I didn't , I 'd.

Yeah, really

I mean Robo's 82yds were the most yds by a WR in a game this season...how bad is that? When was the last time a NFL team didn't have at least 1 WR have 100+yds in a game for the whole season? This has to be some kind of negtive record

"Good production", lol...good catch

I imagine the writer trying out different sub-titles...

Browns receivers sucked donkey dong in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers bite the big one in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers stink up the league in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers achieve mediocrity in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers show up in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers do okay in 2010-- No.

Browns receivers catch some passes in 2010-- No.

Okay, I got it: "The Browns had good production from their young corps of wide receivers in 2010." Now, if I can just keep from peeing myself while I post this...

Here's another one... Maybe they won't notice:

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Outstanding Performer:

Robiskie caught only seven passes for 106 yards and no touchdowns during his rookie season in 2009. With the additions of quarterbacks Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and the development of rookie Colt McCoy, Robiskie showed progress in 2010.

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Didn't want to start a new thread...

I would love to have Ray Sherman as a WR coach.

I like how this article is saying Garrett didn't like how Sherman handled T.O. IMO, the HEAD COACH should have handled him, and Garrett should not like Jones for even bringing him in as a Cowboy anyway.

I agree I would love to have Ray Sherman as WR coach.

Talk on radio in Austin today was that Mr. Sherman wanted to be the official OC if he stayed in Dallas (so he can possibly go for a HC job down the line). But, Garrett wants to be the HC-OC.

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With Chansi Stuckey, Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi and Joshua Cribbs, the Browns had a young, yet productive group of wide receivers in 2010.

They combined for six touchdowns and 1,431 yards on 128 receptions.

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OMG! That's the worst spin I've heard since the democratic convention. Perhaps he should have given us his definition of "productive" first.

Hell, Braylon had a season with those numbers. Well, 150 fewer yards, but 10 more touchdowns.