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yeah, I hate owners that put people in football people in charge of running the football team and let them do their jobs.
where's Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones or Al Davis when you need them.
(oh, and he did the same thing with Aston Villa. he is just as hands-off with that team.)
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How do you blame him....wanted to see one of his teams win.
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Playing Chelsea is a big deal.
The Browns played a meaningless regular season finale against a clearly better Steelers opponent.
I would have been sitting in the same seat as Randy.
And again, he put MH in charge of the team for a reason. Who cares if the silent, hands-off owner is in the house for every home game?
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He runs the team. He's paid for the players. He's paid for the coaches.
It's not like him being in Cleveland would have changed anything.
you had a good run Hank.
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Oh for Cryin out loud Ammo,,, Grow up! 
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were u expecting him to attend? I wasn't.
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It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
He owns two franchises, one is decent and playing for something, the other is lousy and playing for nothing.. no, his decision doesn't bug me. If we were 8-7 and a win would get us into the playoffs it would bug me more...
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So Ammo hates Randy and the Dolans. Look out Dan! 
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
He's spent a lot more on the team than you have. 
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
Prove to us he doesn't care.
He owns two teams, he had to make a choice where to be that day/weekend. One of his teams was going to miss out. I don't see how that proves he doesn't care.
And again, what does being in attendance prove anyway? I care about the Browns more than any team I follow...and I haven't been to a Browns game in Cleveland for years and years.
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Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
He owns two franchises, one is decent and playing for something, the other is lousy and playing for nothing.. no, his decision doesn't bug me. If we were 8-7 and a win would get us into the playoffs it would bug me more...
piling on...
it's likely that Holmgren had already decided to part ways with Mangini and notified Lerner. Last game of a lame-duck coach + we all know how much Lerner loves the media and today is a huge day for it (instead he is safely away overseas)
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agree...it's what we call a cash cow in my business....Browns make him the money so he can enjoy all the other actual interests he has w/o dipping into daddy's trust fund
I'm sure you'll get tons of defenders with the tired line of "would you rather have Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder?"....but there's also the Dan Rooney's and Bob Kraft's of the world and I'd probably rather have Jerry Jones to be honest
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
It does bug me a tik because it is the Steelers AND we got our heads handed to us, but what are you going to do about it? Lerner, unlike pocket lint Dolan, will pay whatever it will take to get the Browns into a winner. If there wasn't a salary cap, we would have the players. So, the only thing you can throw money at is the staff and he has thrown a lot of money and will continue to throw a lot of money at this thing.
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SELL THE TEAM JUNIOR.
Unfreakingbelievable.
amm...tell us, what difference did it make?
Looks to me like he made good choice considering the pile of crap the Browns left on the field...ya think?
This is Holmgren's team...Lerner writes the checks...
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I hate to agree with everyone but you seem to be Rizzo's puppet...
It's evident by the press conference that Randy does care about the team. Randy and Mike meet weekly.
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
How does that equate to him not caring. I wasn't at yesterdays game either, I guess that means I don't care about the Browns either.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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Why is this an issue?
It doesn't bug anyone that the owner of this franchise doesn't care about it as much as its fans do?
No, it doesn't bother me at all... He's a billionaire with his hands in a bunch things.. The Browns may be the only thing you have to concern yourself with, but I"m sure he's got a ton of things to do..
Besides, he's hired Holmgren to run the team and deal with league issues...
Why is it so damn important that he attend each and every game?
Some reporter a few years back was making a big stink about Randy Lerner and his love for English Soccer... BIG FREAKIN DEAL...
Then we had all the damn fool fans wanting him to sell the team last season..., How freakin dumb is that?
Then he goes out and lands Holmgren and everyone thinks,, wow,, Great..
And now, he doesn't attend one freakin game and you bring it up as if it's a big deal
wow,,,, Grow the hell up
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I'd rather have an owner who hires the right people and stays out of the public eye.
How did Jerry Jones, Mike Brown, and Daniel Snyder's teams do this year?
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I frickin' hate soccer and I would rather have watched a soccer game yesterday. Lerner is doing things the right way.....hired good people to run the team, is generous with the checkbook and lets them do what they do best.
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Looks like you might be the only one who cares.The Browns were 5-10 before this game.I wouldn't go if I were the owner either. 
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I frickin' hate soccer and I would rather have watched a soccer game yesterday.
Ha ha ha....funny.
I've continued watching soccer after this years World Cup. And to be quite frank, compared to most US televised sporting events, the pace is better. No commercials and constant action (I understand if you don't like the type of action soccer provides).
Plus, it helps that I'm not bothering myself with the NBA at all....so I have extra "sports space" in my brain.
I might end up buying into the Fox Sports Soccer plan to get more EPL games.
Anyway....just wanted to say that (slow first day back to work after 15 days off).
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I ALWAYS care. But he OWNS them; this is reaching some, Ammo. He cares with his wallet; like there isn't enough misery here already. Gimme a coach. 
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I have tried and tried to like soccer but seeing it live vs T.V. are the same to me ...mind numbingly boring . I appreciate the skill and endurance these atheletes have but sadly I still just can't get into it .
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MH said Randy commented "Do what you need, money is not a factor". That's all I needed to hear!
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I watched the game and wished I'd watched the Aston Villa game.
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I hate to agree with everyone but you seem to be Rizzo's puppet...
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.......
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I have tried and tried to like soccer but seeing it live vs T.V. are the same to me ...mind numbingly boring . I appreciate the skill and endurance these atheletes have but sadly I still just can't get into it .
Ditto. I don't care if europeans or africans......or south americans, or whoever, love it. I don't. It's good at a local level because kids get away from the tv and get some excercise.....but it's a boring sport.
The push to have soccer become so big here reminds me of the push for F1 racing......or, honestly, what Indy car racing has become - they try to cram it down our throats - the road courses - because "other countries love it". So? Who cares? If I want to see a parade, I'll go to a parade.
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He was also there to deal with business issues and the manager of the team.
It wasn't just a game visit.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.......
Do you get Rizzo where you live?
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Not if I turn the dial properly 
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I hate to agree with everyone but you seem to be Rizzo's puppet...
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.......
Actually, I think I echo the sentiments of our fallen comrade, Versatile Dawg.
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While I was listening to the radio this morning, Rizzo actually started talking about this. It was about that time I turned his show off.
Sadly, I had no idea that Snyder was still on 1100.
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