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I really hope MH gives Rob Ryan an interview here. I would like that type of personality roaming our sidelines. Plus, our defense stays intact and we don't have to go into rebuilding mode on that side of the ball. MH can have input on the offensive coaches and bada bing bada boom, we are ready to go.
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Why should we? Don't believe the homers telling you we don't have enough talent...it's BS
Damn straight Skippy...
These guys are so damn use to Coaching changes turning into roster turnover it ain't even funny...
THIS time we keep the most important part IN TACT...Holmgren and Heckert...
There WILL NOT be a roster turnover/teardown...It's not necessary...
Replacing a couple STARTERS and 20 CHUMPS is not a teardown...
I hear you, but it could lead to that.
If the next coach says he wants to run a 4-3, the D is in for major changes.
Maybe th O as well......but on the whole I agree. It won't be a major player turnover.
 H & H will have a lot to do with that.
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Interesting tidbit on Mularkey. Don't know if there's anything to read into, but he cancelled his interview with the Broncos. Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=5995045
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I have an uneasy feeling about all this and the Head Coaching search...
I got this sinking feeling where going to end up with Morninwhig or Fewell, or someone like that....that doesn't inspire confidence in me at all..
I don't understand Mike Holmgren reasoning on this...a winning Coach Like Brian Billick is out there and no reports of even contacting the guy....
Look if Holmgren interviews Billick but likes someone else...fine
But I will be FURIOUS if Holmgren doesn't at least "try" and contact Brian Billick for at least an interview..the guy is really the best coach out there right now that is available, and deserves another shot...and he would be motivated by getting to stick it to the Ravens twice a year after getting rid of him.
If Holmgren interviews Billick and decides to go with someone else...fine i can live with it as long as its not Morninwhig or Fewell....but if we don't even try to even contact or bring in Billick for an interview at least....then there may be no hope for us....you have to explore all possibilities and Billick is a very good one for us
I have heard nothing about us even contacting Billick....anyone here anything?
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Billick is an awful head coach, not sure why you'd want him to be a head coach.
Offensive coordinator? sure, head coach? never.
I actually think Fewell is going to be a good coach in the NFL too. Look what he did with an awful Buffalo team.
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I heard Brian Billick is a donkey  Cmon, just because 'big name coach you like' isn't hired, then you can't have confidence in the pick? not saying under the radar picks work any better than 'big name' guys. there are plenty of Zorn HC's to every Mike Smith (more impressive to me than Harbaugh because they had to change the culture in ATL). but, you have to feel the Holmgren is doing everything he can to get this pick correct.
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Nice write up and break down by Grossi http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/the_browns_search_so_far_a_who.html Quote:
The Browns' search so far: A who's who of coaches who might be on Mike Holmgren's list today
By Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer
BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns' policy during their coaching search is to confirm interviews only after they've taken place.
But here's a look at the candidates possibly on their radar screen. This list will be refreshed daily with updates, deletions and additions.
NFL retreads
Jon Gruden
• Jon Gruden, 47: The former Mike Holmgren assistant-coach-turned-network-game-analyst is preparing for ESPN's coverage of the BCS National Championship game on Jan. 10. Efforts to contact him have been unsuccessful.
John Fox
• John Fox, 55: Despite a 2-14 season in his last year with Carolina, his record as Panthers coach was 78-74 and included a Super Bowl appearance. He reportedly is taking a week off before acting on his future.
Brad Childress
• Brad Childress, 54: He learned the Holmgren offense under Andy Reid in Philadelphia, while Heckert served there as GM, before becoming head coach of the Vikings. He was fired this year with the team at 3-7, lowering his record to 40-37.
Josh McDaniels
• Josh McDaniels, 34: The Barberton native and former Bill Belichick assistant was fired as Denver head coach after less than two tumultuous seasons and an 11-17 record. The 49ers may consider him as a fallback if they are spurned by Harbaugh, reports say. *
Jim Mora
• Jim Mora, 49: He was Steve Mariucci's defensive coordinator in San Francisco and spent two seasons on Holmgren's staff in Seattle before succeeding him. His record of 31-33 included three seasons as Atlanta Falcons coach and one playoff appearance.
Bill Cowher
• Bill Cowher, 53: The former Browns assistant coach and Pittsburgh Steelers head coach turned down owner Randy Lerner's overture two years ago. He's the only coach on the retread list not represented by LaMonte.
NFL assistant coaches
Perry Fewell
• Perry Fewell, 48: The Giants defensive coordinator has been granted permission to interview with the Browns, Panthers and 49ers.
Marty Mornhinweg
• Marty Mornhinweg, 48: The Eagles offensive coordinator cannot interview with any team until next week. He told reporters he can't think about possibly interviewing with the Browns. "We'll see," he answered when asked if he expected to.
Mike Mularkey
• Mike Mularkey, 49: He's been an offensive coordinator with the Steelers, Dolphins and now Falcons, and was 14-18 as head coach of the Bills in 2004-05. He has no affiliation with Holmgren, but his one season in Miami (2006) might have merited a look from former Dolphins executives Brian Wiedemeier and Matt Thomas and earned him an interview with the Browns. He canceled an interview with the Broncos. *
Karl Dorrell
• Karl Dorrell, 42: Bill Parcells liked him enough to name him Miami Dolphins receivers coach, where he also impressed current Browns executives Wiedemeier and Thomas. He was head coach at UCLA from 2003-07. The Browns have not asked permission to interview him. *
Mike McCoy
• Mike McCoy, 48: Knows the Holmgren offense and worked under Fox for seven of his 10 years with Carolina before joining McDaniels' staff in Denver the past two years.
Pat Shurmur
• Pat Shurmur, 45: The nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, a former defensive coordinator under Holmgren at Green Bay, he coached under Reid in Philadelphia for 10 years before joining the Rams in 2009. The Browns will interview him on Thursday.
College coaches
Jim Harbaugh
• Jim Harbaugh, 47: The Ohio native and one-time Baltimore Ravens quarterback declined to be interviewed for the Browns' job. He is orchestrating a bidding war between the 49ers and Dolphins. *
Urban Meyer
• Urban Meyer, 46: Yet another native of Ohio, his offensive wizardry as coach of the Florida Gators drew the attention of everybody in the NFL, including Belichick, who borrowed concepts from him. But Meyer's recent health problems and desire to spend time with his family makes him a long shot to jump to the NFL.
Chip Kelly
• Chip Kelly, 47: For two years as offensive coordinator and then two more as head coach, he turned Oregon into a national championship contender. His spread offense averaged 49.3 points and 537.5 yards per game this season. He is preparing for the BCS Championship against Auburn on Jan. 10 *
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He should still at minimum get an interview..
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He should still at minimum get an interview..
no problem. I have a yard to till. He can strap on the harness and we'll see what he's got.
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I'm gonna say it over and over again and I don't care how annoying it gets.
I hope we get a bright guy who flies under the radar. Not a big name.
I sure as hell don't want Rob Ryan. His brother isn't half the coach he's hyped up to be with the Jets.
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Interesting tidbit on Mularkey. Don't know if there's anything to read into, but he cancelled his interview with the Broncos.
Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=5995045
Here's what you can read into it . . .
"Mularkey still will go through with his previously scheduled interview Saturday with the Cleveland Browns, but he is doing that because they called first and he feels a certain sense of obligation, according to the source."
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I sure as hell don't want Rob Ryan. His brother isn't half the coach he's hyped up to be with the Jets.
So that makes him a bad candidate? Because you don't like his brother?? 
Or did you hear that on the radio somewhere and are treating it as your own thought?
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I'll say this: I don't want Ryan as our HC because I'm not sure he's deserving of it.
I liked the guy, and I think he did a pretty good job as our DC. But he didn't do anything that made me think "boy, he'd be a great HC for us." At times, the guy would call a great defense, and other times, you'd just be scratching your head.
I understand that talent (or lack thereof) is an issue. But some of his schemes, for example the fact that he couldn't call a defense that stopped Pittsburgh's pick plays, just left me questioning him.
He may end up being a great HC, but I guess I just don't see it yet.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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I sure as hell don't want Rob Ryan. His brother isn't half the coach he's hyped up to be with the Jets.
So that makes him a bad candidate? Because you don't like his brother??
Or did you hear that on the radio somewhere and are treating it as your own thought?
Him and his brother are identical in their demeanor and philosophy.
They're also embarrassing in their press conferences.
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Outside of the fact he'd be a great press conference moment just waiting to happen and destined to end his career in beer commercials, I can't say I believe he's ready to lead all three phases of the team.
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Him and his brother are identical in their demeanor and philosophy.
They're also embarrassing in their press conferences.
That was Rex DRESSED UP like Rob, Ammo . . . 
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Here's what you can read into it . . .
"Mularkey still will go through with his previously scheduled interview Saturday with the Cleveland Browns, but he is doing that because they called first and he feels a certain sense of obligation, according to the source."
That's not reading into it, that's READING it (which I did before posting.) I threw it out there for board disucssion, as we have so many conspiracy theorists here. I was interested in replies.
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I'm gonna say it over and over again and I don't care how annoying it gets.
I hope we get a bright guy who flies under the radar. Not a big name.
I sure as hell don't want Rob Ryan. His brother isn't half the coach he's hyped up to be with the Jets.
A bright guy who flies under the radar is fine, as long as he is an energetic type of person.
I'm sick of these coaches who get the job and then do nothing to inspire their players.
For all of his faults, Butch Davis was a good coach who got the most out of his players. Too bad he sucked as a GM.
you had a good run Hank.
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I'm gonna say it over and over again and I don't care how annoying it gets.
I hope we get a bright guy who flies under the radar. Not a big name.
I sure as hell don't want Rob Ryan. His brother isn't half the coach he's hyped up to be with the Jets.
A bright guy who flies under the radar is fine, as long as he is an energetic type of person.
I'm sick of these coaches who get the job and then do nothing to inspire their players.
For all of his faults, Butch Davis was a good coach who got the most out of his players. Too bad he sucked as a GM.
Eric Mangini was a good coach who got the most out of his players as well.
I couldn't care less whether they're 1 to Tony Sparano on the charisma and emotion scale. That doesn't make you a good coach.
Hell, if emotion and charisma meant anything as a head coach, the 49ers would have won that division.
I still can't get over the people who wanted Mike Singletary as their coach because he wins the press conference.
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Here's what you can read into it . . .
"Mularkey still will go through with his previously scheduled interview Saturday with the Cleveland Browns, but he is doing that because they called first and he feels a certain sense of obligation, according to the source."
That's not reading into it, that's READING it (which I did before posting.) I threw it out there for board disucssion, as we have so many conspiracy theorists here. I was interested in replies.
Are you being touchy? I was just pointing out that part, nothing else intended. . .
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Are you being touchy? I was just pointing out that part, nothing else intended. .
Not at all, sorry I came off that way. Just trying to get discussion going.
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Eric Mangini was a good coach who got the most out of his players as well.
Highly debatable.
Especially when we start getting to Braylon and Jerome Harrison.
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I couldn't care less whether they're 1 to Tony Sparano on the charisma and emotion scale. That doesn't make you a good coach.
No it doesn't. However, a good coach has to inspire and drive the players to be better. He also has to be able to manage gameday as well, which is something Sparano couldn't do.
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Hell, if emotion and charisma meant anything as a head coach, the 49ers would have won that division.
This is where you lose me.
Charisma and emotion mean something, otherwise Bellyache never would have gotten fired and Mangini wouldn't have been fired twice.
It means something, it's just not everything. Just like being smart means something, but it's not everything.
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I still can't get over the people who wanted Mike Singletary as their coach because he wins the press conference.
Singletary was an idiot and over the top. However, I never saw the 49ers quit on him, nor did I see any lack of effort.
I'm not saying get a screamer, but don't get a statue either. A head coach has to have some sort of charisma and energy. Those are both things that great leaders have going for them.
So no, charisma and energy aren't the only things, but they are still important.
you had a good run Hank.
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