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Hey guys with the house fire about a month and a half ago were to the rebuild stage and I had a few questions I thought I would get your guy's experts opinions on.
1- My wife wants a whirlpool tub, multiple people have told her we need to get a heater for the tub is this true? SHe does not want a a big tub jsut a regular size with jets.
2- We are replacing our zero clearance fireplace and wondered what a good brand to go ith quality-wise.
3- We want to add a garbage disposal to the kitchen but have aseptic system and was told it woul not be a good idea. As it would fill up our septic system twice as fast.
Thanks guys
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Hey guys with the house fire about a month and a half ago were to the rebuild stage and I had a few questions I thought I would get your guy's experts opinions on.
1- My wife wants a whirlpool tub, multiple people have told her we need to get a heater for the tub is this true? SHe does not want a a big tub jsut a regular size with jets.
2- We are replacing our zero clearance fireplace and wondered what a good brand to go ith quality-wise.
3- We want to add a garbage disposal to the kitchen but have aseptic system and was told it woul not be a good idea. As it would fill up our septic system twice as fast.
Thanks guys
Are you confusing a Hot Tub with a Jacuzzi tub?
Don't have a clue on the fireplace..sorry
I never had well water or septic system so first person experience is worthless. But my wifes uncle lives out in the country, has a septic system and I just got off the phone asking him about it. He has an Insinkarator.. He bought a high end model with apparently lots of power.. he's not had any problems with his septic..
Hope that helps ya.
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Hey guys with the house fire about a month and a half ago were to the rebuild stage and I had a few questions I thought I would get your guy's experts opinions on.
1- My wife wants a whirlpool tub, multiple people have told her we need to get a heater for the tub is this true? SHe does not want a a big tub jsut a regular size with jets.
2- We are replacing our zero clearance fireplace and wondered what a good brand to go ith quality-wise.
3- We want to add a garbage disposal to the kitchen but have aseptic system and was told it woul not be a good idea. As it would fill up our septic system twice as fast.
Thanks guys
Glad to hear the rebuild is coming along after the fire.
To your questions;
1. A heater is not required, but is nice to have, especially if long baths are the plan.
2. Most out there are of good quality, which brand is the best I do not have an opinion of, which doesn't help you (I know). I doubt you go wrong with any you select, as long as it isn't the cheapest looking and feeling, and doesn't come out of the back of someone's van. 
3. A garbage disposal is a great idea and would not fill your septic system 'twice as fast'. My parents have had both for over 40 years and it have never been an issue of filling the septic system, Unless your septic tank/leech bed is very small it should not be an issue at all.
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If you're going for a whirlpool bath tub, then no, you do not need to have a heater. Like others have said, it is nice but certainly not a requirement.
As for the garbage disposal, I've used Insinkerator's for years in my hotels and they have been great. Never had a problem. (and the entire Fl Keys is on septic tanks up until recently when we began our sewer project.)
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Not sure about 1 and 2..........but as for a disposal with a septic - don't worry about it. You'll have no problems at all. (unless you throw whole brats, kielbasa's, hot dogs, hamburgers, and a side of beef down it on a regular basis.)
However - disposal or not, NEVER dump grease down the drain - ANY drain.
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i meant a jacussil tub lol...
thats what i htought about the heater, for the tub thats what she was saying about not being in to to long and if so just add more hot water.
Yea going to a place I used to work that sells fireplaces and talk to them guys.
Kind of what I figured about the garbage disposal. Yea I know grease is abad thing lol.
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Good luck. I use a Vermont Castings and we heat with wood a bunch (I am all electric). Heats the main floor tolerably well. When you talk to them, check out the blowers and how loud they are, and also how much air they circulate. This one is replacing a large insert with two squirrel cage blowers on the old one. This is more EPA friendly, but the new blowers are more quiet, but they move about a third of the air. A screw feed wood pellet or corn burner is hot, little clearance (you can mount on any outside wall I am told), and a bag of fuel can last up to around 20 hours. Also, very little ash. Not sure what kind of workhorse you need for your situation, but it is VERY advisable to talk to someone who knows. Might want to order a catalog from Lehman's in Kidron, Ohio. I have seen a huge selection of stoves there. They sell to the public, but they specialize in supply to the Amish in around Apple Creek where I was born near Wooster. I like their stuff a bunch. Specializing in off-the-grid alternatives for cabins, homesteaders and such. Might find it helpful for names and features. Good luck with the jobs.    
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Not sure about 1 and 2..........but as for a disposal with a septic - don't worry about it. You'll have no problems at all. (unless you throw whole brats, kielbasa's, hot dogs, hamburgers, and a side of beef down it on a regular basis.)
However - disposal or not, NEVER dump grease down the drain - ANY drain.
I agree. I am on a septic system here and have never had to clean the tank in 23 years.
The small bits of meat and vegetable matter actually help keep the system enzymes in balance.
But again....no grease, but that is normal for any drain system.
Keep a big coffee can under the sink for that.
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Hey guys with the house fire about a month and a half ago were to the rebuild stage and I had a few questions I thought I would get your guy's experts opinions on.
1- My wife wants a whirlpool tub, multiple people have told her we need to get a heater for the tub is this true? SHe does not want a a big tub jsut a regular size with jets.
2- We are replacing our zero clearance fireplace and wondered what a good brand to go ith quality-wise.
3- We want to add a garbage disposal to the kitchen but have aseptic system and was told it woul not be a good idea. As it would fill up our septic system twice as fast.
Thanks guys
i didn't read everyone else's response, just a the first few, so this may have all been covered.
#1 - Whirlpool tub, while not necessary I recommend either a tub with heater or a Point-of-Service water heater for that bathroom. We have a Jacuzzi whirlpool tub and with a standard 40 gal hot water tank we run short of hot water a little before the tub is full. (Our tub holds about 60 gallons)
Can't help with #2
#3 - Septic and disposals are bad ideas, as it fills the tank faster than it should. In fact if your on septic there are other things you should be aware of, Liquid detergents are better than powder, as the powder that doesn't dissolve ends up as solid matter in the tank and the bacteria doesn't break it down well, don't flush things down the toilet besides TP, get it pumped out at least every 5 years for best performance.
Most people wait until the tank is full and backs up, but that just messes up your drainfield. The tank gets pumped, but the solid matter that overflowed into the drainfield clogs up the drain passages and will ruin your drainfield.
We just replaced the drainfield on one of the rentals. the $200 to pump every few years was much better than the $4k to replace the field.
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Hey guys thanks for all the answers. We stil have lots of decisions to make the only one really settled was instead of a fireplace with blower, we decided to go with woodburning stove with a zero clearance application. Its a buck stove model 74ZC.
Still deciding on water heater for jacuzzi tub. there seems to be a lot of confliction reports on the garbage disposal also.
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Best advice I can give you is to make educating yourself about how your septic system works a priority. The basics are pretty easy to understand and will save you a lot of money. Identify whether you have a one or two tank system and how big your leech bed is. You can get the info by calling the county. Maintaining your system is critical. When I hear people say that they haven't pumped there tank in 15+ years it's a lot like hearing that they haven't changed the oil in their car for the last 20,000 miles..... It's only a matter of time. Identify how much your putting into the system, ie, a single senior citizen is generating a lot less waste than a family of five with kids. Adding food waste through a disposal is no problem so long as you have your tank pumped on a regular basis. I have mine cleaned out every two years or so. It's only $200 compared to neighbors that have neglected theirs and faced $20,000+ in repairs. Your system was built with the intention of being pumped out regularly. Ignoring that will eventually catch up to you. Read up on the subject and save yourself a future headache.
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The answer to your tub question is tied to what you already have in place. What is the recovery rate of your hot water tank? Is it 20, 40, or 80 gallons? Is it powered by gas, electric, or propane? Electric and propane both have slower recovery rates than gas. How big is the tub? How many other people and appliances (dish washer, clothes washer, etc) will be using hot water at the same time?
If you have an 80 gallon gas powered hot water tank, you don't need an additional heater. If you have a 40 gallon gas and only two people in the house you can probably sneak by without one. Outside of that, you should IMO have the additonal heater.
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The answer to your tub question is tied to what you already have in place. What is the recovery rate of your hot water tank? Is it 20, 40, or 80 gallons? Is it powered by gas, electric, or propane? Electric and propane both have slower recovery rates than gas. How big is the tub? How many other people and appliances (dish washer, clothes washer, etc) will be using hot water at the same time?
If you have an 80 gallon gas powered hot water tank, you don't need an additional heater. If you have a 40 gallon gas and only two people in the house you can probably sneak by without one. Outside of that, you should IMO have the additonal heater.
Good answer.
The other side of that is: how often will the tub be used?
Only they can answer that, but I know several people that have tubs like that........and aside from the first month or so, they hardly ever get used.
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