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http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/112980044.htmlRyan to interview with Carolina Panthers By Nate Ulrich Beacon Journal sports writer POSTED: 09:44 p.m. EST, Jan 05, 2011 As expected, the Carolina Panthers are courting Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in their search for a coach. The Panthers have asked the Browns for permission to interview Ryan, according to the Charlotte Observer. Last week, Ryan said he would ''be really shocked'' if he didn't interview for a head coaching job. Several players also expressed confidence in Ryan's chances of taking control of an NFL team. ''I would be lying to you if I said [Ryan] wasn't ready to be a head coach,'' Browns cornerback Sheldon Brown said. ''I definitely know he's ready to be a head coach.'' After firing coach Eric Mangini on Monday, Browns President Mike Holmgren said all of the team's assistants, including Ryan, are under contract for another year. Holmgren said he met with the assistants and plans to do the same Monday. The Panthers are also reportedly pursuing interviews with San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Greg Manusky and New York Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell, who is also expected to interview for the Browns' coaching vacancy. The Browns did not conduct any interviews Wednesday. They are expected to interview St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur and Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey this week. Holmgren said the Browns' list of candidates includes college coaches. Stanford University's Jim Harbaugh is one of the more high-profile coaches from the college ranks, but he reportedly is not interested in working for the Browns. A source told Cleveland.com that Harbaugh declined to interview with the Browns after they offered him an informal invitation. Harbaugh, a Toledo native whose brother, John, is the coach of the Baltimore Ravens, interviewed with the 49ers on Wednesday.
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i wonder why Carolina isn't going after Harbaugh. They can make it a package deal with Luck.
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i wonder why Carolina isn't going after Harbaugh. They can make it a package deal with Luck.
The interviewing season is just underway,, who's to say they won't go after him still...
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Ya, I never really thought he'd want to come coach in the same division as his brother. Especially with the odds of getting beat by him twice in his first season. Of course, some guys might like that challenge. But no surprise he isn't interested in Cleveland.
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i wonder why Carolina isn't going after Harbaugh. They can make it a package deal with Luck.
I read something somewhere - actually the sports part of the CNN.com page - that said Carolina's owner appeared to be going cheap - meaning Harbaugh probably wouldn't get the $6 mil. plus that he wants, and casting doubt on whether the owner would go for Luck.
The article put the niners as the top shot at getting him.
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Ya, I never really thought he'd want to come coach in the same division as his brother. Especially with the odds of getting beat by him twice in his first season. Of course, some guys might like that challenge. But no surprise he isn't interested in Cleveland.
I'm trying to find out where he's said he's not interested in Cleveland?
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Of two of the top coaching candidates out there, one doesn't want us, and the FO doesn't want the other. Yay.  
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Harbaugh, a Toledo native whose brother, John, is the coach of the Baltimore Ravens, interviewed with the 49ers on Wednesday.
Ya, I never really thought he'd want to come coach in the same division as his brother. Especially with the odds of getting beat by him twice in his first season. Of course, some guys might like that challenge. But no surprise he isn't interested in Cleveland.
I'm trying to find out where he's said he's not interested in Cleveland?
I read that somewhere - can't find it now, so with no link I guess we have to put it in the "rumor" file.............but I did read that Harbaugh was contacted by the Browns, but had no interest.
Like I said - I can't link to it. I do know what I read though. Take it for what it's worth.
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i wonder why Carolina isn't going after Harbaugh. They can make it a package deal with Luck.
Because Harbaugh want 7mil/year...guy is nuts...but he's clever, he knows someone's gonna be desperate enough to pay that price...my money is on SF or MIA
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I'm trying to find out where he's said he's not interested in Cleveland?
You beat me to it. Haven't seen him officially quoted anywhere.
Between now and our new guy's hiring is officially announced, I want to read that Holmgren AT LEAST contacted the man . . .
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Ya, I never really thought he'd want to come coach in the same division as his brother. Especially with the odds of getting beat by him twice in his first season. Of course, some guys might like that challenge. But no surprise he isn't interested in Cleveland.
I'm trying to find out where he's said he's not interested in Cleveland?
Here you go: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/cleveland_browns_were_never_in.html
BEREA -- Stanford's Jim Harbaugh, the hottest coaching commodity in the college ranks, will not be a part of the Browns' coaching search.
The Browns informally extended Harbaugh an invitation to be interviewed recently and he declined, a source said.
"The Browns will not confirm or comment on a coaching candidate unless he has already interviewed, per club policy."
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Harbaugh said something about not wanting to coach in the same division as his brother IIRC.
Also, this team is not as talented as some others out there. Further, this division has 2 11 win teams in it. It will not be easy for anyone to come in here and win a division title, or make a huge impact right away.
I suspect that we will miss out on some candidates as a result.
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Good for us....he's Saban reloaded...a good CFB HC who thinks he's God's gift to football...punt him
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Ya, I never really thought he'd want to come coach in the same division as his brother. Especially with the odds of getting beat by him twice in his first season. Of course, some guys might like that challenge. But no surprise he isn't interested in Cleveland.
I'm trying to find out where he's said he's not interested in Cleveland?
Here you go: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/cleveland_browns_were_never_in.html
BEREA -- Stanford's Jim Harbaugh, the hottest coaching commodity in the college ranks, will not be a part of the Browns' coaching search.
The Browns informally extended Harbaugh an invitation to be interviewed recently and he declined, a source said.
"The Browns will not confirm or comment on a coaching candidate unless he has already interviewed, per club policy."
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THanks Arch,,, I was wondering where that info came from.. now I know..
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Of two of the top coaching candidates out there, one doesn't want us, and the FO doesn't want the other. Yay.
I get Harbaugh as the one who doesn't want us. Who's the one our FO doesn't want? And how do you know we don't want him?
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I have no problem with Rob Ryan going elsewhere, becoming some team's HC, etc.
In case anyone didn't notice, that reputation he gained as some kind of D wizard this year seems to have been based on a very small handful of games where the D really stepped up. Outside of those few games the D looked just as inept as it has for years. On top of that poor to mediocre planning and execution, you have a guy that is barking, strutting, and making win guarantees. I can't tell you how much I hate that. Showing confidence is one thing- saying your D is ready to "get after Pittsburgh's ass" in the final game, and then watching the D play it's worst game this year is quite another.
The biggest, single issue I had- and this one really pisses me off to no end- is the way the D seemed to fall apart in every game where the Browns had a lead. I've never seen a D that had a lead and unraveled to the point of squandering that lead nearly every time. Even in a couple of the Browns victories, the D layed down and very nearly let the other team (Bengals, for example) back in and turned the W into an L. It would be one thing to see the D play consistently through 4 quarters, but once the Browns had a lead it was maddening to watch that little switch get flipped where suddenly the D relaxed and couldn't seem to defend the run or pass like they had through the first 2 or 3 quarters.
The thing Ryan has going for him is that he seems to be a player's coach and that very well may catch on with a team of guys somewhere. I can totally see him being a good HC somewhere, but I can also see him embarrassing himself and his team on a regular basis. We don't really need that in Cleveland.
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The thing Ryan has going for him is that he seems to be a player's coach and that very well may catch on with a team of guys somewhere. I can totally see him being a good HC somewhere, but I can also see him embarrassing himself and his team on a regular basis. We don't really need that in Cleveland.
Good point about the "player's coach" thing. He could do well following a Tom Coughlin type of disciplinarian.
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Hey, I liked Fisher...I'd be ok with Nolan HC...and I LOVE Gabbert....but yeah friends tell me all the time I'm too pessimistic
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Of two of the top coaching candidates out there, one doesn't want us, and the FO doesn't want the other. Yay.
I get Harbaugh as the one who doesn't want us. Who's the one our FO doesn't want? And how do you know we don't want him?
Rob Ryan, and I make it a good bet that he's not high on the list of consideration to coach the Cleveland Browns.
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Rob Ryan, and I make it a good bet that he's not high on the list of consideration to coach the Cleveland Browns.
Thanks. Wasn't trying to be smart (hope you didn't take it that way.)
I'm not high on Ryan. I love his emotion and enthusiasm, but I just think the schemes were lacking and the adjustments weren't made. For example, I saw teams go repeatedly over the middle with TEs, and it seemed like we didn't make necessary adjustments. Some would argue that the players didn't execute, but if that's the case then why not put someone else in. Again, just an example.
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I find this extremely hard to believe... you have friends?  
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Some would argue that the players didn't execute, but if that's the case then why not put someone else in.
Who do you want to put in? Ray Ventrone or Sabby Piscitelli?
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Who do you want to put in? Ray Ventrone or Sabby Piscitelli?
If they were in position and made plays, then yes. It's a question like that that probably is in the back of some players minds. "What are they going to do, bench me for that guy?" Let's see, we left the middle open with the other guys, so would it really make a difference? Plus, pulling guys who continually don't execute sends the message that they need to get their crap together. My guess is, if they see you're not afraid to pull them, they'll be a lot more focussed.
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Rob Ryan, and I make it a good bet that he's not high on the list of consideration to coach the Cleveland Browns.
personally, i would be surprised if he was high on anyones list. Good for him for getting an interview with the panthers.
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Hey, I liked Fisher...I'd be ok with Nolan HC...and I LOVE Gabbert....but yeah friends tell me all the time I'm too pessimistic
I find this extremely hard to believe... you have friends?
Hehe, reasonable negativity is likeable...it's an art though...many wannabees struggle with the "reasonable" part 
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I find this extremely hard to believe... you have friends?
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I'm not high on Ryan. I love his emotion and enthusiasm, but I just think the schemes were lacking and the adjustments weren't made. For example, I saw teams go repeatedly over the middle with TEs, and it seemed like we didn't make necessary adjustments. Some would argue that the players didn't execute, but if that's the case then why not put someone else in. Again, just an example.
Ultimately, there will be supporters and opposition to whomever gets hired.
He'll get a shot somewhere, not a good fit here, (scheme & FO-wise,) but he brings a lot of intangibles to the table, and could ultimately have success leading a team. I also think we could do worse, in the sense that it would maintain some type of continuity, and his fiery, no-nonsense attitude is something this team needs, IMO. However, I'm certain in my mind that the FO wants to move on completely, and that would not include retaining Ryan.
Regarding his D, it may be somewhat over-rated, but he'll be hiring a D-coord who will put his own stamp on game planning, and game time adjustments, so it's difficult to assess future HC success based on this past year's D scheming.
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Ryan is going to be a head coach I think. I think the front office there will love his energy.
Players like playing for coaches with the type of energy Ryan has.
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He is a natural born leader. I have seen the way these guys respond to him. They fight for him and believe in him. His defense trailed off down the stretch but what he accomplished with absolutely no offensive support should not be underestimated. Give him an aggressive attacking experienced OC and I think it could be a really good winning combination.
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He is a natural born leader. I have seen the way these guys respond to him. They fight for him and believe in him. His defense trailed off down the stretch but what he accomplished with absolutely no offensive support should not be underestimated. Give him an aggressive attacking experienced OC and I think it could be a really good winning combination.
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w/ Matty "Ice" and "Summer" Brees in the division, its really no different than what it is in the AFC North...
Whoever coaches there will be at the bottom for a few years for sure... The panthers just dont have it..
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shame Luck isn't coming out.....Brees, Ryan, Freeman, and Luck all in the same division? Would have had a lot of entertaining games there.
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I have no problem with Rob Ryan going elsewhere, becoming some team's HC, etc.
In case anyone didn't notice, that reputation he gained as some kind of D wizard this year seems to have been based on a very small handful of games where the D really stepped up. Outside of those few games the D looked just as inept as it has for years. On top of that poor to mediocre planning and execution, you have a guy that is barking, strutting, and making win guarantees. I can't tell you how much I hate that. Showing confidence is one thing- saying your D is ready to "get after Pittsburgh's ass" in the final game, and then watching the D play it's worst game this year is quite another.
The biggest, single issue I had- and this one really pisses me off to no end- is the way the D seemed to fall apart in every game where the Browns had a lead. I've never seen a D that had a lead and unraveled to the point of squandering that lead nearly every time. Even in a couple of the Browns victories, the D layed down and very nearly let the other team (Bengals, for example) back in and turned the W into an L. It would be one thing to see the D play consistently through 4 quarters, but once the Browns had a lead it was maddening to watch that little switch get flipped where suddenly the D relaxed and couldn't seem to defend the run or pass like they had through the first 2 or 3 quarters.
The thing Ryan has going for him is that he seems to be a player's coach and that very well may catch on with a team of guys somewhere. I can totally see him being a good HC somewhere, but I can also see him embarrassing himself and his team on a regular basis. We don't really need that in Cleveland.
You built a strong case where I agree the Browns were often maddening in how they blew leads and got soft in stretches. I also agree the players loved playing for Ryan. yet I part from your opinion in your final analysis how Ryan was not that effective as a coach nor would he be as head Coach.
Ryan got the most from the least in that sometimes he could scheme his way into confusing teams and yet sometimes the other teams would adjust and Ryan just did not have enough skill players to respond. We had a rash of injuries at lb and Dline and even our secondary was thin. I think Ryan squeezed every ounce out of that team. Yes it would be maddening to see them collapse, yet when opponents found strong matchup deficiencies I am not sure how Ryan could mask those.
Ryan gets an A for the effort he got out of marginal and thin talent. We had no dominant players on defense and i was saddened by the collapse of Eric Wright as a top corner.
Does Ryan have the other skills you need as a head coach? Is he a wizard at xs and Os or is he tops where it counts: getting players to give their all for him. I think the last game was a toss out for a team that knew mangini and his staff were gone.
I would try to keep Ryan as D coordinator.
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would try to keep Ryan as D coordinator.
I like Rob also,
but I also feel he is an option depending on who is our next HC if our next HC wants his guys than Rob might be left outside, but if our next HC see & like what Rob has done and Rob is willing to return than heck yes bring him back, I dont care who is where doing what as long as we WIN
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Kinda just clickin'.
I would be surprised--perhaps even shocked--to see Ryan stay on. Pretty much any coach that comes in is going to want "his" guy, especially given Ryan's closeness to Mangini, lack of connection to Holmgren/Heckert, and penchant for putting his rather large foot in his mouth.
Ryan has done a decent enough job given our talent--I guess. I've never understood the love affair surrounding him on this board, and I think given his tendencies he'd be a PR train wreck of a head coach. Just like his father, just like his brother. And while fans may not care about stuff like that, owners sure do.
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didn't we already try the 'convert a college coach to an NFL coach' thing?
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didn't we already try the 'convert a college coach to an NFL coach' thing?
To be fair, we've also tried the "respected coordinator with outstanding credentials" thing as well as the "unfairly fired head coach who's going to learn from his mistakes this time" thing. So what's left?
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flipping a coin?
Hey, it worked for our QB's.
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