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Come on Loyal, I doubt this will be about the buddy system.
Do you really think that??
My attitude is this....most of the really good coaches didn't get there on the rebound system.
They were hired after being a coordinator of some sort, then made their mark.
Look at it the other way...this guy may fall flat on his face as a head coach in the NFL, but at least he hasn't done so to this point.
Whoever we hire, I have no doubt Holmgren will feel it is the best possible candidate.
If he hires him and doesn't, then I agree, the team is cursed...that or us Cleveland fans were bad people in a previous lifetime and we are really living in Hell.
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No one else is interviewing him and Rams fans would be happy to see him go. And not because they are happy for him.
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Not really much out there. This is what Wiki has on him Quote:
Pat Shurmur (born April 14, 1965) is the current offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams.
His uncle, the late Fritz Shurmur, served as the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator from 1994-98 and helped that club win two NFC Championships and one Super Bowl title. Pat has four children, Allison, Erica, Claire and Kyle. He was interviewd by the Cleveland Browns on January 7th, 2011 to be their head coach
Pat began working for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1999.[1]
On January 21, 2009, Shurmur was hired by Steve Spagnuolo to be the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams.
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Shurmur joined the Rams after seven seasons as quarterbacks coach for the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb earned three of his five Pro Bowl berths during Shurmur’s tenure. McNabb finished among the top 10 in the NFL in attempts (571, fourth), completions (345, fifth), yards (3,916, seventh) and touchdowns (23, eighth) in 2008. His 345 completions and 3,916 passing yards set Eagles single-season records.
In 2004, Shurmur guided McNabb to the most productive season of his career, in which McNabb established franchise records in passer rating (104.7) and completion percentage (64.0). McNabb also became the first quarterback in NFL history to have a season with 30-plus touchdown passes (31) and fewer than 10 interceptions (eight).
You can go to the Rams site and see a couple of his press conferences to get a flavor for the guy. I've not done so yet.,,but will if it appears the Browns are serious. Ain't gonna worry about it till then.
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I am still of the opinion that being a head coach is NOT about pure knowledge of X's and O's. It is about organizing a staff, leading and directing the staff and players, and managing the big picture.
That's why so many big name coordinators fail ..... because they think that they will coordinate the team. It doesn't work that way. They cannot just become a glorified coordinator and turn a team around. (which is why the majority of these guys get jobs) They need to be a leader, put together effective staffs, and lead and direct the entire operation. The head coach needs to manage the managers, and coach the coaches.
Many guys just cannot grasp this important task. They are great at the Xs and Os ..... and think that will make them great coaches. Being great isn't what being a head coach is all about ..... it's about making those below you great.
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I agree 100% YTown.
And I think that applies to Mangini as well - someone who you have defended quite vigorously on here.
By all accounts very smart guy ...but did he have these other soft skills ...these intangibles that you talk about? I'm not sure we ever saw that with him.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Actually, I think that he did have those skills, but working with a team that lacked in so many areas makes for a lot of no win senarios.
He took the heat for everything, and I think that some people would have preferred tha he lash out at players from time to time. He held steady though, and took all of the bad on himself, and gave all of the credit to those below him. He was a leader. I am afraid that we're going to wind up missing him. The candidates that I know of so far do not instill me with a ton of confidence.
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If they're serious about Shurmur, and decide to pass on Mularkey & Mornhinweg, then I'd much rather they promote Seely.
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Well, if you look at it, Seely has had NOTHING but success everywhere he's been. But like Ytown expressed in a post a couple up from yours.. it's not about what he's done as a ST coach, it's if he's capable of finding good leaders of each unit and then leading them.
I don't honestly know how to judge that based solely on his past...... Or shurmers past for that matter.
I can see what Mornhinwig did,, same with Malarky. There is some proof there that maybe they can't lead the leaders (so to speak).
And yeah Rish,, maybe that was Manginis flaw. Like you say, by all accounts, he was a decent guy, smart as a whip... but maybe his real downfall was not being a leader of leaders.
One thing for sure,, at least he left in a professional manner.. no bad blood, no crying over spilt milk.. All positives comments about Team, Presiden and players.... and his GM also.
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It's like in war the Head Coach is like the Battalion Commander [example].
He might have the those leader ship qualities that you look for, but who he delegates as his Company Commanders will ultimately be the deciding factor in the out come of any ensuing battle.
Some times that leader must come down and be able adjust or redirect the attack.
Mangini has been compared to his mentor Belichick and maybe unfairly so, because Bill did not come with a high appreciation and knowledge of the offensive side of the ball.
He grew into one who does.
Eric Mangini was not as finished a product as we needed at the time we hired him.
Bottom line;
Here we go again with new offense and maybe defense too yet to learn.
I think our defense showed a lot of improvement last season I'll be it a short handed unit.
Our offense was and is not worthy of repeating anyway.
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it's not about what he's done as a ST coach, it's if he's capable of finding good leaders of each unit and then leading them.
I'd would postulate that he's done both of those things as the ST Coach/Assistant HC for the Browns.
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Have we gotten any confirmation from the FO on true candidates yet?
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I don't think so. But the media seems convinced that they have or will contact Gruden, Fox and Mornhinweg.
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Have we gotten any confirmation from the FO on true candidates yet?
Hopefully we will have something new in the way off news today 
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I hope we only get visit news right now. The last thing I want is for Holmgren to rush into a B or C rated candidate. 
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I don't think so. But the media seems convinced that they have or will contact Gruden, Fox and Mornhinweg.
Maybe H&H do not want to scare away a potential applicant by bringing in the heavier artillery.....I don't know? Just a thought.
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Maybe H&H do not want to scare away a potential applicant by bringing in the heavier artillery.....I don't know? Just a thought.
And/or they already know what they have in those two (Gruden and MM) and they want to get to know the lesser candidates first.
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The last thing I want is for Holmgren to rush into a B or C rated candidate.
So where are we at the moment,, Shurmer, Malarky and Fewell (sp) that I know of. And I'm not even sure of Fewell yet! Beyond that?
We hear rumblings about Mornhingwig,, but I don't see confirmation. Maybe now that the Eagles are out of it, we will.. We hear all the speculation about Gruden,, again, no confirmations. Perhaps now that the BCS game is over,, we will.
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And/or they already know what they have in those two (Gruden and MM) and they want to get to know the lesser candidates first.
That's a very good possibility.
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Or maybe Gruden has told Holmgren what he has told everyone else lately ..... that he wants to stay at ESPN, and have time to coach in his son's football games. (IIRC, this is his son's senior year?)
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I might have missed it, but I don't remember seeing anything recently from Gruden about coaching or not coaching. The lastest thing I saw was the article about his dad, and even HE didn't know what his son would do. I was actually thinking things seemed almost too quiet on the Gruden front.
You could very well be right. Maybe he's already told Holmgren no thanks, and since the Browns only comment AFTER interviews, there will likely be no comment.
Just had another thought (probably a bit conspiracy laden): What if the Browns want to make sure they interview Fewell before making any reference to Gruden. Fewell said he'd only interview in a legit. situation (not just a Rooney rule token interview). If the Browns talke Gruden, maybe then it looks to Fewell that the Browns are just going through the motions with him, and then he doesn't interview.
Now I see why the media has to make up so much of its "news"!
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As much as I would like to have him, I don't see Gruden as a candidate.
Gruden floats his own name out, or his agent does, when anyone has an opening. If Western Kentucky has an opening Gruden's name will be involved. And so far we haven't heard a word about Gruden (or Fox for that matter), other than us talking about them (on the board) and at the the press conference (where Holmgren said he hasn't talked to either).
Now that I think of it, maybe he's keeping quiet because he knows this was his job all along...
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Stranger things have happened. That's exactly what has started to creep into my head just because of how quiet the Gruden thing has become.
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I might have missed it, but I don't remember seeing anything recently from Gruden about coaching or not coaching. The lastest thing I saw was the article about his dad, and even HE didn't know what his son would do. I was actually thinking things seemed almost too quiet on the Gruden front.
You could very well be right. Maybe he's already told Holmgren no thanks, and since the Browns only comment AFTER interviews, there will likely be no comment.
Just had another thought (probably a bit conspiracy laden): What if the Browns want to make sure they interview Fewell before making any reference to Gruden. Fewell said he'd only interview in a legit. situation (not just a Rooney rule token interview). If the Browns talke Gruden, maybe then it looks to Fewell that the Browns are just going through the motions with him, and then he doesn't interview.
Now I see why the media has to make up so much of its "news"!
Hence my above statement about not bringing out the heavy artillery at the start.
Even though this goes against common military doctrine and what I believe in OooRAH! 
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Just had another thought (probably a bit conspiracy laden): What if the Browns want to make sure they interview Fewell before making any reference to Gruden. Fewell said he'd only interview in a legit. situation (not just a Rooney rule token interview). If the Browns talke Gruden, maybe then it looks to Fewell that the Browns are just going through the motions with him, and then he doesn't interview.
Hence why the Rooney Rule is dumb...
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Just had another thought (probably a bit conspiracy laden): What if the Browns want to make sure they interview Fewell before making any reference to Gruden. Fewell said he'd only interview in a legit. situation (not just a Rooney rule token interview). If the Browns talke Gruden, maybe then it looks to Fewell that the Browns are just going through the motions with him, and then he doesn't interview.
Hence why the Rooney Rule is dumb...
I think if a team requests an interview w/ a minority candidate and they turn it down, then it should be settled that the team satisfied the Rooney Rule.
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ppl in Denver got to love the way Elway is handling coaching search.... Dont know which way is right? traditional secretive way or this refreshing new open communication by using available technologies But at the end we need to get RIGHT guy to run this football team
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Just had another thought (probably a bit conspiracy laden): What if the Browns want to make sure they interview Fewell before making any reference to Gruden. Fewell said he'd only interview in a legit. situation (not just a Rooney rule token interview). If the Browns talke Gruden, maybe then it looks to Fewell that the Browns are just going through the motions with him, and then he doesn't interview.
Hence why the Rooney Rule is dumb...
I think if a team requests an interview w/ a minority candidate and they turn it down, then it should be settled that the team satisfied the Rooney Rule.
I think if a team wants to hire someone it shouldn't matter what their skin color is...
Minnesota and Dallas both had Interim coaches they wanted to hire full-time, the Vikings went ahead and did that, Dallas, had to interview someone else, Because Jason Garrett is white...
That's discrimination... Kind of defeating the purpose isn't it?
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Had experiences where deals are cut and dried beforehand, sometimes candidates have the position before posting it. I found it odd that we signed three players before this is settled. If it doesn't speak to a chosen HC (which might have happened, or be in deeper negotiations than acknowledged), it does offer some insight as to where we are going perhaps. Confusing to me at this point. Hope it is right guy. The absence of Gruden's name might say a good deal or signify precisely nothing. Odd little process, this is.
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As comparing him to Belichick, a tag that was not realistic, but one that came with him here just the same.
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Had experiences where deals are cut and dried beforehand, sometimes candidates have the position before posting it. I found it odd that we signed three players before this is settled. If it doesn't speak to a chosen HC (which might have happened, or be in deeper negotiations than acknowledged), it does offer some insight as to where we are going perhaps. Confusing to me at this point. Hope it is right guy. The absence of Gruden's name might say a good deal or signify precisely nothing. Odd little process, this is.
Might be, But I think what it's signaling is that Heckert is in charge of player aquisition. The next HC (any HC) will have to cook with the groceries he's given.
But then again, the players they signed weren't world beaters.. so maybe they are camp fodder more than anthing else.
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Jan. 11, 2011 CORAL GABLES, Fla. – On Tuesday afternoon, Miami head coach Al Golden announced the hiring of another assistant coach with recruiting ties in South Florida, the Northeast and California. Former Cleveland Browns wide receivers coach George McDonald will hold the same position with the Miami Hurricanes. McDonald just completed his second season as the Browns’ wide receivers coach. He first joined the Cleveland staff as offensive quality control coach on February 11, 2009, and was promoted to wide receivers coach on May 6, 2009. He previously spent nine seasons as an assistant on the collegiate level, including two seasons as the wide receivers coach at the University of Minnesota. web page
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I'm calling BS on that article. At no time in the past two years have we had a WR coach.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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It's a typo, they ment WR Couch...
As in what the WR's sit on while the rest of the team practices...cause...i mean....come on...
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I'd would postulate that he's done both of those things as the ST Coach/Assistant HC for the Browns.
I'll go a step further. The best indication on someone's skills in coaching is oftentimes that it is so obvious they are good coaches that they are retained by successive regimes.
Seeley was ST coach for Pete Carroll when he was fired from NE. Belicheck comes onboard, talks with him, and decides he has to retain him. Mangini works with the guy for a few years, then when he creates his staff here decides he has to try to steal him away from NE.
And now, how many people don't think he will be retained by whoever takes over as HC? Guy is a really good coach and I think is at least worth the interview with Holmgren (and I feel confident he was extended that courtesy at the least).
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Mangini mentioned at one point that Seely deserved a shot at a HC spot, and would make a great one. Said, IIRC, that no one was better prepared, but because he's on ST's wrongly gets overlooked. I hope HM doesn't make that mistake for that reason.
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if Seely is all that, then why is he still a special teams coach? why is he settling?
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if Seely is all that, then why is he still a special teams coach? why is he settling?
Did you read Manginis comment,,, Because he's a ST coach, he gets overlooked.. Settling?
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