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I hope he does. It turned out well for us last time.
LOL That was my exact thought... 
I'm not at all sure of Shurmur,, I look at his coaching history and I'm left with a little blah feeling.. But then, like I said the other day on another thread.., one could say that same things about John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin prior to getting thier first HC opportunities.....
Hopefully Shurmur will do as well as they did. The difference might be,, both Tomlin and Harbaugh had better/proven talent when they took over thier teams. Shurmur is going to have some pains while new parts are added.
I suppose no matter who was hired, they'd have had to deal with that problem..
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p.s. I'm sooo stoked that an agent is running our organization.... we just need to look for rookies that he (or his firm) represent and we can figure out our draft.
That wouldn't surprise me at all. What happened to Holmgren saying he was going to search the entire country to find the right head coach?
I shudder to think of what might happen if Holmgren isn't able to get this team on track before his contract runs out.
I'm just surprised this isn't getting anymore attention than the surprise of Shurmur being named coach. We've already had one "agent" be one of the cogs in ruining one of our sports teams. Doesn't this concern anyone else?
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That wouldn't surprise me at all. What happened to Holmgren saying he was going to search the entire country to find the right head coach?
I shudder to think of what might happen if Holmgren isn't able to get this team on track before his contract runs out.
I'm just surprised this isn't getting anymore attention than the surprise of Shurmur being named coach. We've already had one "agent" be one of the cogs in ruining one of our sports teams. Doesn't this concern anyone else?
Why would anyone be surprised at that.. the way some of you talk about it, you'd think there was NO OTHER connection between Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur... As if the only possible reason he was hired is because he's a Lamonte client..
The man has 12 years in the league, he's done alright I guess, like I said I'm not overjoyed by this hire.. But to say that there is anything wrong with the hire or to question motives because he's got the same agent as Holmgren,, wow,, that's just not anything to worry about..
In fact, it's silly to worry about it IMO
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What I find surprising is the Browns are the only team in the NFL with this setup.It would seem to be the perfect score.
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Props to Ammo. I like it! I hope he gets 'er done!
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Just has to change the shirt from Rams to browns and it's all set..
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Shurmur Named Head Coach of Cleveland Browns Posted 13 minutes ago * a * a Pat Shurmur, who served as the Rams’ offensive coordinator the past two seasons, became head coach of the Cleveland Browns Thursday. “I am very happy for Pat and his family,” Rams Head Coach Steve Spagnuolo said. “I very much appreciate Pat and what he has done to help us grow as a team these last two years. I wish him and his family the very best in Cleveland.” In 2010, the Rams scored 114 more points than they did in 2009, the second best improvement in the NFL last season. In addition, the Rams committed just 21 turnovers in 2010, tied for the ninth-lowest total in the NFL. “Pat is a very good football coach and has done an excellent job for us,” Rams General Manager Billy Devaney said. “He is deserving of this opportunity and I wish him and his family the best in Cleveland.” RB Steven Jackson enjoyed 1,000-year seasons in each of Shurmur’s years as the team’s offensive play caller, and Jackson was recently named to his third Pro Bowl. Wide receivers Danny Amendola and Brandon Gibson along with tight ends Daniel Fells and Billy Bajema each posted new career highs in receptions in 2010. "I knew it would not be long before Coach Shurmur got a head coaching job in this league,” Jackson said. “He was a good coordinator for the Rams and on Sundays, he got the most out of his players and always had us in a position to win the game. Congratulations to Coach Shurmur and his family." Shurmur also played a key role in the development of QB Sam Bradford, who set new NFL rookie records for completions and attempts and finished second all-time among NFL rookies with 3,512 passing yards. “This is a great opportunity for Coach Shurmur,” Bradford said. “I really enjoyed working with him last season and he truly helped my transition from college to the NFL game. I think he will be a really good head coach.” web page
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Good God...DerpFest2011 has already started on talk radio.
"We needed 'Holgrem' or Gruden and no one else!!! I'm not renewing my season tickets because of this coach!!!!"
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How can I say anything nice about this coaching hire? [/What do you think I was born yesterday, this move is BAD!color]
I can try and look for something positive to, focus on, but it is not here, and then they bring up that the west coast offense PUKE!  will return
What is it 1988, the west coast offense STINKS!
They would have been better off hiring BRADY HOKE! The StupiD Michigan Wolverines Have a better head coach, This STINKS!
Searching for poitives, I can only think this is a positive for Ravens Fans and Steeler Fans
Why is it, Everytime the Browns make a move, the average Browns fan, Knows in his heart, that he really wants to find someone who works for the Browns and kick em where it counts.
It is a complete disgusting disgraceful move of inadequacy they should have to change the Team name and the Uniform to reflect that this team is going to be so bad.
Anyone who is going to put positive statements about this hire, I think is either working for the team and has been told to support it, or is just unaware of what their 5 senses and common sense should tell them.
Underwhelmed!
Hey if the Browns play within a Strike Season and Use Scab Players, Well this is what they would look like, I'm saying this coach for a head coach looks like a Scab Coach.
5-11 would be lucky SAY IT AIN'T SO, MIKE,
SAY IT AIN'T SO!
He is better than Morniwheg for sure !
He is better than Mangini, because he's not Mangini, wait I'm not sure of that
Who just got fired from the Cowboys, that overmatched person with the clueless look on the sidelines Looks like a Big improvement on any known reputation of Shurmer, (I don't want to learn how to spell it, Schurmer, Shumer Shurmer, )
Out of the Laughing stock Frying Pan, Into the Laughing stock FIRE.
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The WCO is pretty common in the league nowadays, in different forms sometimes, sure... But not 1988 worthy...
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yea.. Shurmur is also very pass happy. Not saying our offense will be because he is not our coordinator, but I am actually happy we have an offensive minded head coach.
Any defense can only do so much.. when it's time to win games.. you need an offense that can score points.
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How can I say anything nice about this coaching hire?
[/What do you think I was born yesterday, this move is BAD!color]
I can try and look for something positive to, focus on, but it is not here, and then they bring up that the west coast offense PUKE! will return
What is it 1988, the west coast offense STINKS!
They would have been better off hiring BRADY HOKE! The StupiD Michigan Wolverines Have a better head coach, This STINKS!
Searching for poitives, I can only think this is a positive for Ravens Fans and Steeler Fans
Why is it, Everytime the Browns make a move, the average Browns fan, Knows in his heart, that he really wants to find someone who works for the Browns and kick em where it counts.
It is a complete disgusting disgraceful move of inadequacy they should have to change the Team name and the Uniform to reflect that this team is going to be so bad.
Anyone who is going to put positive statements about this hire, I think is either working for the team and has been told to support it, or is just unaware of what their 5 senses and common sense should tell them.
Underwhelmed!
Hey if the Browns play within a Strike Season and Use Scab Players, Well this is what they would look like, I'm saying this coach for a head coach looks like a Scab Coach.
5-11 would be lucky SAY IT AIN'T SO, MIKE,
SAY IT AIN'T SO!
He is better than Morniwheg for sure !
He is better than Mangini, because he's not Mangini, wait I'm not sure of that
Who just got fired from the Cowboys, that overmatched person with the clueless look on the sidelines Looks like a Big improvement on any known reputation of Shurmer, (I don't want to learn how to spell it, Schurmer, Shumer Shurmer, )
Out of the Laughing stock Frying Pan, Into the Laughing stock FIRE.
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Opinions differ. Not to argue. But the 2010 offense stunk it up horribly. So good riddance to that. One more touchdown would have swung some wins our way in many games. Hope he can get us going on offense. 
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Any defense can only do so much.. when it's time to win games.. you need an offense that can score points.
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I think the Steelers and Ravens would disagree with you. Their D is what jump-started their rise to perennial powerhouse status.
Now, (what I think you're saying), is that both of those teams have gotten around to building up their offenses to complement those D's.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Any defense can only do so much.. when it's time to win games.. you need an offense that can score points.
And when you've scored a bunch of them, the defense doesn't have to be so overpowering.
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Good God...DerpFest2011 has already started on talk radio.
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Idiots...
Two quick points.. Talk Radio wil rot your mind.. and,, does this mean you are no longer a fan of the Browns and will be leaving this board now
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All I have to do is read your post (and see that quote in it) and I remember why I have that little kid on ignore.
But yeah, seriously, I'm going to give this hire a legitimate chance. It's something new. Romeo seemed to have a great resume, and he was a very bad head coach.
I thought Mangini was improving, and then he decided to play Delhomme over Seneca after Colt got hurt. This made me lose a lot of faith in Mangini's decision making. And Holmgren DID give Mangini his chance. Obviously there were things that he didn't like, and he didn't live up to Holmgren's standard.
I'm sticking with our Team's President. A legitimate football guy in charge of making football decisions (he did hire Heckert, which was a good call IMO). I just wish some people would have a little faith. He's not an idiot, and he certainly has been around the NFL (and NFL coaches) long enough to have an idea as to what might make a good one.
All I'm saying is that people can knock our hire, but I'm putting my money on Holmgren for now. And I don't believe in the big same agent conspiracy or neopotism.
With how much Big Mike gets paid, I do think that he is making his decisions with the good of the team first
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Consider me a derper. I absolutely do not believe he could have been the best guy for the job and "just happened" to share the same agent. Honestly, he managed to get Steven Jackson under 4 yards a carry. He led Bradford to the second-worst pass efficiency rating for those who qualified with enough attempts. They barely scored more than our offense that had Brian freakin' Daboll running the show. How is this possibly "absolutely the right guy?"
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I think we are a little bias b/c we are in a division with good defenses.
You don't have to have a GREAT defense to be the best.
New England's defense is not the BEST.
Colt's defense is not the BEST.
Saint's defense is not the BEST.
Falcons defense is not the BEST.
Yea of course it helps. No doubt. But we need some confidence on offfense, which this organization has not had in a long time, with the exception of the fluke 2007 season.
Glad we got an offensive mind in here. Get a defensive coordinator who can control that side of the ball.
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Consider me a derper. I absolutely do not believe he could have been the best guy for the job and "just happened" to share the same agent. Honestly, he managed to get Steven Jackson under 4 yards a carry. He led Bradford to the second-worst pass efficiency rating for those who qualified with enough attempts. They barely scored more than our offense that had Brian freakin' Daboll running the show. How is this possibly "absolutely the right guy?"
First of all, his offense should not and does not matter in the grand scheme of things. Maybe if we hired him as OC.
Second, the Rams had less talent on offense than us, but had it in the right spots of QB and RB.
Third, the Rams offensive line is awful. Worst in the league, maybe. It's the reason they had to run a conservative offense, because other wise Sam Bradford would be in pieces on the field.
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By the way, Bob Lamonte has a huge client list of NFL Head Coaches. Not sure why people are bitching about hiring guys on his list, seeing as how many many many of them are successful coaches.
Seems like people are complain about something just to complain.
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I absolutely do not believe he could have been the best guy for the job and "just happened" to share the same agent.
So what you are saying is, Shurmur got hired because he has the same agent?
That means you are saying it wasn't because he was with the Eagles and had worked with Heckert for all those years and that he worked with Andy Ried all those years who, by the way worked for Holmgren in GB for all those years?
Is that what your saying.. you are completely ignorning all other reasons for this hire in favor of perhaps the silliest reason I can think of? Do I have that right?
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And when you've scored a bunch of them, the defense doesn't have to be so overpowering.
Thank you for seeing where I am coming from. Of course I want a punishing defense, but it's time to focus some attention on this offense and get them going. The defense will continue to grow IMO, but the offense really needs help.
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Yes, defense stops the other team from, or limits, scoring -- but it does not score the points necessary to win football games.
I would much rather the "overwhelming" offense.
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Relax,we're just having fun with it.
Nobody knows anything about this guy,those with strong opinions for or against,ahve some hidden motivation.
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All I know is that attitude reflects leadership and after watching one of this guy's press conferences on the Rams website he seems a bit "Magoo"......
Probably one of the most under-whelming hires we have ever made, definately not overly excited about it but not hating it alot, but dis-liking it a bit.
i'll give the guy a shot though, not really anything else to do now.
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Anyone think this is Holmy's way of getting back to "coaching" without looking like he's getting back to "coaching"?
And on an unrelated matter, the FO has known since the end of last yr., that we needed WR's, but H&H did not (at least it did not appear to) bring in a viable threat to help spread the D. Anyone know if this was on H&H or Genie or BD ? I don't know if it will ever come out, But if I was Genie I would be jumping up & down mad that we did not get a legit WR. Maybe BD did not run that kind of Offense? Seems kinda funny to me.
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Anyone think this is Holmy's way of getting back to "coaching" without looking like he's getting back to "coaching"?
And on an unrelated matter, the FO has known since the end of last yr., that we needed WR's, but H&H did not (at least it did not appear to) bring in a viable threat to help spread the D. Anyone know if this was on H&H or Genie or BD ? I don't know if it will ever come out, But if I was Genie I would be jumping up & down mad that we did not get a legit WR. Maybe BD did not run that kind of Offense? Seems kinda funny to me.
Your not the only one who noticed. It won't be surprising if we waste another high draft pick on a WR.
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Anyone think this is Holmy's way of getting back to "coaching" without looking like he's getting back to "coaching"?
And on an unrelated matter, the FO has known since the end of last yr., that we needed WR's, but H&H did not (at least it did not appear to) bring in a viable threat to help spread the D. Anyone know if this was on H&H or Genie or BD ? I don't know if it will ever come out, But if I was Genie I would be jumping up & down mad that we did not get a legit WR. Maybe BD did not run that kind of Offense? Seems kinda funny to me.
I think the WR situation was both on Heckert AND Holmgren.
1) The brought in Delhomme, so they thought he could make the WR's better seeing that the year before Quinn/Anderson were throwing to them.
2) Holmgren thought the lack of production was due to the system installed, and was confident that sometimes WR's won't get the type of production you may want, but that the ball is spread around.
3) Heckert may have no liked anyone that came out, and he too may have thought that another year of playing time would give him a better look at the offensive talent here in Cleveland.
4) Really, being Heckerts 1st draft here, he knew he had the 1st year to draft @ positions that were really hurting, or could hurt in the future.
Heckert did good though. Now it's time to get a WR in here.
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It was kinda awkward, him breaking down the Browns/Pats game... Seemed that way to me at least...
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While I'm completely underwhelmed with this guys resume', I'll drink a toast to this guy having a very successful career as a head coach. Then again, I'll drink a toast to pretty much anything! 
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While I'm completely underwhelmed with this guys resume', I'll drink a toast to this guy having a very successful career as a head coach.
Then again, I'll drink a toast to pretty much anything!
I'm pretty sure they call that alchoholism...
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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