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"West Coast Offense" ("WCO") is one of two similar but distinct offensive-strategic-systems of play: (A) the "Air Coryell" system; or (B) more commonly the pass play system popularized by Bill Walsh. However, WCO may simply refer to an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running.... In 1993, a Bernie Kosar quotation used to describe the 1993 Dallas Cowboys' offense as 'West Coast offense' was publicized by Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman ("Dr. Z"). Originally Kosar had meant a comparison to the "Air Coryell" system used by west coast teams in the 1970s, the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders. A reporter mistakenly applied Kosar's quotation about the Air Coryell system to the 1980s-era attack of Walsh's San Francisco 49ers.[2] Initially, Walsh resisted having the term misapplied to his own distinct system, but the moniker stuck. Now the term is commonly used to refer to a range of pass-oriented offenses that may not be closely-related to either the Air Coryell system or Walsh's pass-strategy....Throughout the years, coaches have added to, adjusted, modified, simplified, and enhanced Bill Walsh's original adaptation of the Paul Brown offense....
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They can call it the Jim Bob Special as long as it works.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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For me, this just goes to show how far ahead of the pack Paul Brown really was. The modern game of football as we know it is directly attributable to Paul Brown's strategies and innovations.
"Lombardi Trophy," indeed....
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No Doubt !....and yet Paul Brown Stadium is in Cincinnati Not Cleveland....Amazing IMHO....  ....
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"West Coast Offense" ("WCO") is one of two similar but distinct offensive-strategic-systems of play: (A) the "Air Coryell" system; or (B) more commonly the pass play system popularized by Bill Walsh. However, WCO may simply refer to an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running.... In 1993, a Bernie Kosar quotation used to describe the 1993 Dallas Cowboys' offense as 'West Coast offense' was publicized by Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman ("Dr. Z"). Originally Kosar had meant a comparison to the "Air Coryell" system used by west coast teams in the 1970s, the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders. A reporter mistakenly applied Kosar's quotation about the Air Coryell system to the 1980s-era attack of Walsh's San Francisco 49ers.[2] Initially, Walsh resisted having the term misapplied to his own distinct system, but the moniker stuck. Now the term is commonly used to refer to a range of pass-oriented offenses that may not be closely-related to either the Air Coryell system or Walsh's pass-strategy....Throughout the years, coaches have added to, adjusted, modified, simplified, and enhanced Bill Walsh's original adaptation of the Paul Brown offense....
Yes Walsh adopted it from Paul Brown so it was our first. I think with Ryan running the defense, a more adaptable west coast offense and another solid draft by heckert we could be on our way. Yet I am sad it appears ryan is gone.
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Jauron would be a Good addition as DC....but I like Ryan as well.....
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Shurmur will incorporate Holmgren's West Coast offense and call his own plays. A former center at Michigan State, he rated offensive line the most important part of the offense and quarterback the most important individual. Finally someone gets it! He scouted quarterback Colt McCoy thoroughly while the Rams were preparing to take McCoy's college rival, Sam Bradford, with the first pick in the last draft, and said he's looking forward to working with him. "I think it's very important that we're able to run the football, but in the NFL you have to be able to efficiently and explosively throw the ball, and that's something that we're going to try and get done," Shurmur said. Holmgren concurred: "Because you're going to look out at the Browns and perhaps see a little different style, please no one interpret that as we are going away from the run. What has to improve is our ability to throw the ball and our utilization of our wide receivers." http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/post_76.html
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Holmgren and Shurmur are pass happy..the WCO is a pass happy Offense....I think it can work here...it worked in the cold climate of Green Bay
I fully expect a pass happy offense, and the run just being used enough to keep the D honest and thats it...60% pass 40% run is fully what i expect to see.
thats not a bad thing...as long as it works i guess.
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I fully expect (and hope) that we will pass the ball more, especially to the wideouts. With that being said, Holmgren is a brilliant offensive mind and he understands the importance of having a certain balance. His best years in Seattle were when Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson were demolishing people and Shaun Alexander was running free.
You can even see the imprints of the running game from last year's draft... Hardesty and Lauvao.
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Holmgren and Shurmur are pass happy..the WCO is a pass happy Offense....I think it can work here...it worked in the cold climate of Green Bay
I fully expect a pass happy offense, and the run just being used enough to keep the D honest and thats it...60% pass 40% run is fully what i expect to see.
thats not a bad thing...as long as it works I guess.
I doubt it will be that high, especially with the emergence of Hillis...and Hillis is perfect for that type of system since his hands are as good as any receiver.
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"West Coast Offense" ("WCO") is one of two similar but distinct offensive-strategic-systems of play: (A) the "Air Coryell" system; or (B) more commonly the pass play system popularized by Bill Walsh. However, WCO may simply refer to an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running.... In 1993, a Bernie Kosar quotation used to describe the 1993 Dallas Cowboys' offense as 'West Coast offense' was publicized by Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman ("Dr. Z"). Originally Kosar had meant a comparison to the "Air Coryell" system used by west coast teams in the 1970s, the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders. A reporter mistakenly applied Kosar's quotation about the Air Coryell system to the 1980s-era attack of Walsh's San Francisco 49ers.[2] Initially, Walsh resisted having the term misapplied to his own distinct system, but the moniker stuck. Now the term is commonly used to refer to a range of pass-oriented offenses that may not be closely-related to either the Air Coryell system or Walsh's pass-strategy....Throughout the years, coaches have added to, aÞjusted, modified, simplified, and enhanced Bill Walsh's original adaptation of the Paul Brown offense....
Here's the link you forgot to include with your stolen cut and paste:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_offense
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Holmgren and Shurmur are pass happy..the WCO is a pass happy Offense....I think it can work here...it worked in the cold climate of Green Bay
I fully expect a pass happy offense, and the run just being used enough to keep the D honest and thats it...60% pass 40% run is fully what i expect to see.
thats not a bad thing...as long as it works I guess.
I doubt it will be that high, especially with the emergence of Hillis...and Hillis is perfect for that type of system since his hands are as good as any receiver.
60-40 isn't high at all...
Especially when u consider Backs outta the Backfield...
That's exactly what we will see...
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Holmgren and Shurmur are pass happy..the WCO is a pass happy Offense....I think it can work here...it worked in the cold climate of Green Bay
I fully expect a pass happy offense, and the run just being used enough to keep the D honest and thats it...60% pass 40% run is fully what i expect to see.
thats not a bad thing...as long as it works I guess.
I doubt it will be that high, especially with the emergence of Hillis...and Hillis is perfect for that type of system since his hands are as good as any receiver.
60-40 isn't high at all...
Especially when u consider Backs outta the Backfield...
That's exactly what we will see...
Maybe so.
Not that I am against it. I don't care if we pass 70% of the time.
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Holmgren and Shurmur are pass happy..the WCO is a pass happy Offense....I think it can work here...it worked in the cold climate of Green Bay
I fully expect a pass happy offense, and the run just being used enough to keep the D honest and thats it...60% pass 40% run is fully what i expect to see.
thats not a bad thing...as long as it works i guess.
Now all we have to do is find out if Colt is our man?
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Cleveland Browns coach Pat Shurmur: What changes fans can expect on the fieldPublished: Friday, January 14, 2011, 7:15 PM Updated: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 1:18 AM Tony Grossi, The Plain Dealer  Linebacker Marcus Benard (58) is the kind of player who can play at a couple spots in the 4-3 defense run by Dick Jauron, the leading candidate to become the Browns' defensive coordinator. ANALYSISThe Browns we've known the past two years are gone. Change started Thursday with the selection of new coach Pat Shurmur. Here's a taste of what we might expect when the Browns next take the field. Where the offense is heading: Total conversion to the pass-first principles of the West Coast offense. Regards short passes as extensions of handoffs. Stresses getting the ball in receivers' hands quickly and letting them make plays running after catches. Horizontal routes and pinpoint accuracy enable receivers to accelerate with the ball. The up-tempo passing game opens up lanes in the running game. Running is not de-emphasized, but is set up by the pass. The base system is a traditional fullback-halfback formation, with both required to be good pass catchers. The quarterback runs the show. This is the system that most fits Colt McCoy's skill set. Shurmur will establish the mentality of his offense, and thus his team, by calling the plays. With veteran coaches schooled in the offense already on board -- Mike Holmgren and Gil Haskell -- Shurmur is likely to hire a younger coordinator whom he can groom to eventually take over play-calling in the future. Where the defense is heading: Most likely will switch to the traditional 4-3 alignment. Leading contender as coordinator is Dick Jauron, 60, who has 25 years as an NFL assistant and head coach. Jauron worked for Holmgren in the 1990s and last year worked for Andy Reid in Philadelphia. Jauron likes big, physical defensive linemen who play the "two-gap" style -- required to keep blockers off the linebackers. In that regard, linemen in his version of the 4-3 have similar responsibilities as the linemen in the Eric Mangini 3-4 system. The linebackers must be fast and agile, able to run sideline to sideline. He favors a four-man front, but will substitute an undersized rusher on designated downs, much like Marcus Benard has been used. Jauron doesn't take a lot of chances and tries to be more solid than fancy. Cleveland.com
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"Jauron doesn't take a lot of chances and tries to be more solid than fancy."
That tops the list as the Understatement of the New Year.
I prefer solid to fancy.I donot like Jauron's bend but don't break D.With the atheletes in the NFL,that bend always seems to break at the worse possible time.
I can see the QB's in our division eyes lighting up at the prospect of playing Jauron's D twice a year.
Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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That tops the list as the Understatement of the New Year.
I prefer solid to fancy.I donot like Jauron's bend but don't break D.With the atheletes in the NFL,that bend always seems to break at the worse possible time.
I can see the QB's in our division eyes lighting up at the prospect of playing Jauron's D twice a year.
I don't think it's exactly true.
Jauron has been with the Eagles, who bring the heat as often as any team in the NFL.
Jauron hired Perry Fewell, who went to the Giants, who bring the heat as often as any team in the NFL.
Shurmur worked under Spags in St. Louis and while he was on the other side of the ball he watched Jim Johnson, both brought the heat as often as any team in the NFL.
I hope and pray that Shurmur is most Jim Johnson/Spags philosophically on defense than other 4-3 schemes. That 4-3 scheme is the only one I like. Big, downhill, 3-4esque linebackers with more speed on the defensive line than a 3-4.
At least...this is my hope. I hope it's not a conservative 4-3.
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