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No, there isn't an article, no, I've not heard it on TV or read anything about it anywhere.
Not even sure why I did it, but I decided to watch some of Kosars Hightlights.
The thought occurred to me, that if there ever was a time for Kosar to come aboard as a coach, it's now. Maybe not as OC,, what about QB Coach.
Am I just grasping at straws here,,, or is there maybe something good that can come from this?
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Realistically, snowballs have a better chance. That said, I find it interesting to say the least. Can't see him as OC, but maybe an interesting choice. Tough to see a fit that might work. But I still love the guy and hope he might have a place in some capacity. 
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No...decent player doesnt = decent coach
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I was thinking I wouldn't mind him being some kind of coach, not necessarily starting at OC, then I thought of him as a QB coach teaching McCoy his throwing motion, then I thought again about it! 
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He has never coached before and has no ties to the West Coast Offense or Holmgren's/Walsh's Tree.
No chance. And I wouldn't want him. I don't want a first time coach coaching our future starting QB in his second NFL season and his first in the WCO.
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Sorry but no ties to the WCO? Bernie essentially is the man who came up with the name West Coast Offense
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Just because he named it doesn't mean he has ties to the offense.
Wasn't he talking about the Chargers and Raiders when he named it?
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i like Bernie, what Browns fan doesn't, but has he ever done any coaching?
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i like Bernie, what Browns fan doesn't, but has he ever done any coaching?
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Kosar never played in the West Coast offense. Let Holmgren find guys that fit his system.
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West Coast, East Coast, whatever coast doesn't matter. Kosar was one of the smartest QBs to ever play the game. I'm pretty sure he could adapt to whatever offense would be run and do it well. His ability to read defenses was phenomenal, and if he could teach that to McCoy he'd be invaluable. I don't mean as on O.C. (although this would be a good way to get his feet wet, since he wouldn't be calling plays), but with what he would bring to the game, I don't think it's far fetched that he could be good for any team willing to hire him.
All that being said, I don't see Holmgren bringing Kosar aboard. For some reason, I think Holmgren wouldn't want to be overshadowed in the publicity department. Not to mention, if it didn't work out, who would want to be the guy to fire Bernie? (Look how it worked out for Belichick as far as this city is concerned!)
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Goofy idea, though the thread will generate traffic.
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Goofy idea, though the thread will generate traffic.
LOL you win for the dumbest comment!
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lol...i think it was the truest comment
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I agree with the three of you.
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Bring him in as a backup QB! I just want to get the old Bernie Bernie songs out again.
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? Kosar for OC?
My first thought, is Could it be that simple?
" Has he ever done any coaching? "
I'm Sure some of what he did in the old days could have been called on the field coaching.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I think he'd make a hell of a play caller!
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What makes it a goofy idea, that has been discussed many times on this board, is that since his retirement he hasn't shown one ounce of interest in coaching.
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Goofy idea, though the thread will generate traffic.
Just as it was and just as it did the last 3 times it ran as a thread.
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On a serious note ...... Kosar is like the ultimate cheerleader for the Browns.
No matter where they are in any stage of their bi-annual rebuilds, he sees the bright side. The closest he ever came to criticizing the team was to say that he would be hard on the WRs in practice when McCoy took over. (at least I believe that's when it was)
He loved the Crennel regime .... He was happy to help when they got the boot ...... loved Mangini ....... though Daboll was a very good coordinator and a smart guy ....... loves Modell and thinks that he should be in the Hall of Fame .....
He was friends with Policy and Clark, liked Palmer, Liked Davis, thought that Chud did a great job ..... thought that Terry Robiske did a good job ...... and so on .......
I don't think that I can ever remember so much as the slightest squack of criticism from him.
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J / C.....I seem to remember hearing coach Rutigliano mention that Bernie was very impressed with MH when he was in San Fransisco... And I think he mentioned that the two had even made contact with each other....
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I have no doubt that Kosar could master the WCO in a week or two, once given the playbook. Its his recognition of defenses and how to attack them that makes him special, imo. So yes, I think he could be a successful OC. However, the thing that has always kept Kosar from being truly involved with the team on a day to day basis is his unwillingness to relocate from South Florida. His kids are growing up there, his home is there. Looking out my window at single digit temperatures, its hard to criticize him for that.
I do think a special asst to the HC position could be created where Kosar would be here on gameday and Monday to be on the sideline for McCoy (or whomever is QB) during the game and then breaking down film with the QBs the day after the game.
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Just a general question ... wasn't the Browns offense in the 80's a modified WCO? I think it may have been a bit more "vertical", but still with a lot of pre-snap reads and audibles by BK. I think the Browns' OC at the time, Lindy Infante, had worked for Bill Walsh in Cinci ...
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I think Kosar would be a great asset for McCoy. I agree that something could be worked out where he could tutor Colt in the art of reading Defenses and pre snap reads during training camp full time and review the film and give insight to the next weeks opponent early in the week during the season. The guy was masterful at it. I can't see him as Offensive coordinator, but like Holmgren is a mentor to these Coaches, Kosar could be used in the same Capacity for the QB's.
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has Bernie ever expressed interest in being a coach or being on the sidelines?
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No, not that I am aware of. Just commenting on the topic. Money talks though.
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At a minimum,....It would be a great PR move for sure,...
Would it be any worse than what we've had for the past 12 years ?
Apparently he doesn't want to do it, or he would have already had this ticket punched, I would think.
He's definitely as good a Browns fan as anybody I've ever known,..'cept Dieken and that sidekick of his.
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The reason I even brought it up is because I saw how Kosar picked apart defenses.. Nothing fancy really, he just took what they gave him, or so it seems.
I think we all know how smart Kosar is supposed to be. Someone that smart should be able to pick up the pieces and parts of the WCO that he doesn't already understand. The key is, if he could impart that knowledge on a young QB. I'm really thinking more of what he could bring to the table for McCoy.
As far as him being an OC.. Hell, it was just one of those out of the box thoughts.
I know it's been brought up before,, I know it's been shot down before, I know that it doesn't appear any management group the Browns have had ever really had any interest in bringing Kosar in as a coach at all.
And I'm pretty sure that this regime isn't gonna consider it either.
As for Kosar not having coached before,, Look every coach in the league got the first job.. OC probably isn't the place to begin but QB coach wouldn't be horrible or over shooting.
So if you all want to call the idea "Goofy' or "stupid" or a repeat of other posts,, Be my guest,, But there was thought behind it.
Do I expect it to occur.. No I don't.
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The OC does a lot more than call plays.
I believe Bernie would be great at developing a game plan vs the opponents strengths and weaknesses. I also think he would be great at calling plays on game day. Where I suppose his weakness might lie would be in coaching the 11 guys on offense during the week of preparation for the upcoming game.
He's never coached in any capacity and that's a lot of what an OC does. In all other regards I believe he has the skills and certainly the brains. But actual coaching could be another matter. I'm not saying he can't do it, but it would have been a good thing if he coached at least one position like QB or OL or something before jumping straight away into a coordinator's job.
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No, and seeing how the coaches get eaten alive here on a regular basis he probably wants folks to have good memories of him.
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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I could never agree more. kosar needs the money and we need his mind. I think he would LOVE to feel needed again by the team he loves. Kosay forgot more than daboll would ever know. he can still read defenses and as a QB assistant he could give McCoy tips all game. maybe that results in 3 or 4 big plays a game? I LOVE the idea, but The Big Show may not have room on that stage of success. I think Kosar even as a QBs assistant would be great. McCoy has the temperament and Kosar could feed that willing chick full of football knowledge.
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OK,, now I'm officially worried about my thinking,, Akronjoe agrees 
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Maybe since Shurmur will be calling the plays anyway he can do some job shadowing.
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I could never agree more. kosar needs the money and we need his mind. I think he would LOVE to feel needed again by the team he loves. Kosay forgot more than daboll would ever know. he can still read defenses and as a QB assistant he could give McCoy tips all game. maybe that results in 3 or 4 big plays a game? I LOVE the idea, but The Big Show may not have room on that stage of success. I think Kosar even as a QBs assistant would be great. McCoy has the temperament and Kosar could feed that willing chick full of football knowledge.
To those "dreaming"...you can continue, if you want...
BUT, the reality is, Kosar has never been a coach in the NFL and there is 0% chance of him being hired by the Browns OR BY ANY OTHER TEAM, to be a QB coach or OC.
I like Bernie and his commentary but with no experience coaching...it's just not gonna happen.
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I could never agree more. kosar needs the money and we need his mind. I think he would LOVE to feel needed again by the team he loves. Kosay forgot more than daboll would ever know. he can still read defenses and as a QB assistant he could give McCoy tips all game. maybe that results in 3 or 4 big plays a game? I LOVE the idea, but The Big Show may not have room on that stage of success. I think Kosar even as a QBs assistant would be great. McCoy has the temperament and Kosar could feed that willing chick full of football knowledge.
To those "dreaming"...you can continue, if you want...
BUT, the reality is, Kosar has never been a coach in the NFL and there is 0% chance of him being hired by the Browns OR BY ANY OTHER TEAM, to be a QB coach or OC.
I like Bernie and his commentary but with no experience coaching...it's just not gonna happen.
Mac,, you are incredible.. we all know he hadn't coached,, But before Shurmur coached, he didn't, before Holmgren coached, he didn't.
What are you expecting,, As I said, maybe as OC,, thats a reach for sure, but QB coach isn't out of the question... not even close..
And no, I really don't expect the Browns to hire him.. I'm thinking he probably doesn't have much interest in other teams.. I'm not even sure he has any interest in coaching at all..
But unless you've been living under a rock, Kosar is a pretty smart guy. He's well known for being able to read D's. It's funny to hear him during the preseason games, he calls out what the D is going to do by just looking at it.
WE could sure use our QBs to learn to do that.......
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