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A request by the Cleveland Browns to interview Washington Redskins special teams coach Danny Smith was denied last week, according to a league source.
Smith's contract is set to expire, but the Redskins intend to retain him. Four teams were denied permission to speak to Smith after last season and the Browns were denied on Friday.
Smith has been with the Redskins since 2004.
The respected special teams assistant was contacted by Denver earlier this month, but Smith declined the offer from Broncos coach John Fox, according to sources.
The Browns are still in the process of rounding out their staff. They are in the hunt for an offensive coordinator to replace Brian Daboll, who left for the same post with the Miami Dolphins. Along with additional openings, Cleveland needs to hire a special teams coordinator to replace Brad Seely, now with the Niners.
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Let's be clear with this. We got denied permission. He didn't diss us by declining an interview.
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If his contract is set to expire, can't we just interview him without the 'Skins permission when it does?
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Right, usually the contracts don't expire till after the Super Bowl though.
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Assuming the Skins don't get a deal done beforehand, absolutely. Obviously, they are holding off potential suitors as long as possible so they can try to do just that.
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We let one of the best in the biz go to SF. God, we're stupid.   
I'm not sure you are characterizing it exactly correct.
Seely had written in his contract that if Mangini got fired, he was free from his remaining contract.
All the browns could do was make and offer.. But I think Seely wanted out.
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yea.. didn't make much since.. bad move by the Front Office, but hopefully our key guys that we retain will remember, and have actually learned something from Seely where it won't hinder us.
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The papers are being really slow to report it, but Tony Grossi tweeted that Billy Davis has been hired as a defensive coach.
My guess is he'll coach the linebackers because that's what his previous positions entailed when he wasn't a coordinator.
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Seems like a good choice if true. Getting guys with a lot of experience on the defensive side of the ball is important with an offensive minded rookie head coach.
So if the Billy Davis hiring is true we have a defensive coordinator who used to be a head coach and a linebackers coach who used to be a defensive coordinator.
Pretty good.
(FYI - Schefter has said that our front office is waiting to introduce the whole staff together)
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Thanks! Didn't know where we were at with assistants. Figured it would be like cascading dominoes, with various holes being left up and down the line. Has there been any official word beyond coordinators and Seely as to who has been let go or left? 
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If his contract is set to expire, can't we just interview him without the 'Skins permission when it does?
Yes we can. It sounds like the Skins want exclusive bargaining rights until then.
The only way they can't deny permission is if we are looking to promote him up the ladder.
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I don't see Danny Smith leaving the Redskins.
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The papers are being really slow to report it, but Tony Grossi tweeted that Billy Davis has been hired as a defensive coach.
My guess is he'll coach the linebackers because that's what his previous positions entailed when he wasn't a coordinator.
Yeah but Bill Davis tweeted that he may not.
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Remind me to thank Grossi for his help. I would like to know something. Save us Mary Kay Cabot! Gimme some news. 
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j/c http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/01/cleveland_browns_center_alex_m_2.htmlThis article on Alex Mack going to the probowl notes that Eagles O-Line coach, Juan Castillo, is NOT a candidate for our OC job. Hey, it pertains to the thread . . . Other than Mr.Whipple, I'm wondering if there's a candidate on a SuperBowl team or one recently eliminated from the playoffs.
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Maybe. Doubtful it would have been a comfortable situation for Seely, and even more doubtful he would have been able to retain his sphere of influence, but "I think" if we had wanted to keep him, something could have and would have been worked out. Most likely, the FO and new coach are leaning toward a "clean slate". When it comes to a talent like Seely, this may not have been the best move. But we can always 
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I remember asking that on earlier thread elsewhere as to maybe we wanted something on a playoff team. At this point we should know sooner rather than later. All but two have gone home.
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But the staff that shares our philosophies is still in it (Packers).
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Chris Tabor was named the Browns' new special teams coordinator, the team announced today. Tabor spent the past three seasons as an assistant special teams coach for the Chicago Bears.
The Browns needed to replace special teams coordinator Brad Seely. After coaching the Browns for the past two seasons, Seely recently left the organization to join the San Francisco 49ers' coaching staff.
Tabor, 39, was reportedly the favorite to become the Carolina Panthers' new special teams coach, but the Bears' run to the NFC Championship Game might have caused the Panthers to look elsewhere instead of waiting for Tabor to become available. The Panthers hired Brian Murphy earlier this week.
During his tenure with the Bears, Tabor worked under special teams coordinator Dave Toub. The two coaches guided the Bears a top-five ranking in kickoff return average in each of the past three seasons. In 2010, the Bears led the NFL in punt return average (17.1 yards) and were second in kickoff return average (25.4 yards).
Tabor, a native of St. Joseph, Mo., coached at four colleges before beginning his NFL career in 2008. His resume includes stops at Western Michigan University, Utah State University, Culver-Stockton College and the University of Missouri.
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Chris Tabor is in his third season as Chicago's assistant special teams coach after being hired on February 22, 2008. Tabor came to the Bears after spending two seasons at Western Michigan University as the Broncos running backs and special teams coach.
In two seasons as an assistant to special teams coordinator Dave Toub, Tabor has helped his unit finish eighth and sixth in the NFL (according to the Dallas Morning News ranking system) in 2008 and 2009, respectively. During that time, the Bears rank second in the NFL in kickoff return average (25.0 ypr). In 2008, Danieal Manning led the NFL in kickoff return average (29.7) and in 2009, Johnny Knox finished second in the league earning a 2010 Pro Bowl nod as a returner.
Chicago is also second in the league, during that span, landing 66 punts inside-the-20 while tying for the NFL lead in fewest touchbacks with just seven. During Tabor's time as assistant special teams coach, Chicago ranks third in the league in punt coverage (6.8 ypr) and blocked kicks (six).
Since 2008, Chicago is one of only three teams in the NFL to not allow a special teams return touchdown, joining Buffalo and Tampa Bay. The Bears three kick return touchdowns during that span are tied for sixth in the league.
The Bears are sixth in the NFL in field goal percentage since 2008 connecting on 50 of 57 attempts (87.7 percent).
Prior to his time in Kalamazoo, he spent four seasons at Utah State where he was the running backs and special teams coach (2005) after being the Aggies' assistant head coach in charge of wide receivers from 2002-04.
Tabor spent four seasons with the current Bears special teams coordinator Dave Toub at the University of Missouri, beginning as an offensive graduate assistant (1997-99) and moving into the role of the running backs and special teams coach in 2000. In between his time at Missouri and Utah State, Tabor was the head coach at Culver-Stockton College in Canton, Mo. in 2001.
From 1993 to 1996, Tabor built experience at the community college and high school levels, coaching at Central Methodist College (1995-96) in Fayette, Mo., Hutchinson Community College (1994) in Hutchinson, Kansas, and Benton High School (1993) in St. Joseph, Mo.
Tabor graduated from Benedictine College in Atchison, Kansas, where he spent four seasons as a quarterback for the Ravens football team. He earned his master's in education from Columbia College in Columbia, Mo.
Tabor and wife, Nikki, have two daughters, Paityn and Lainey.
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Seems like the Bears special team have been pretty good with Robbie Gould being one of the best kickers in the league and Devin Hester/Danieal Manning returning kicks and punt.
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Well .... we'll see how he does here.
I'm not terribly impressed, but a young coach can sometimes have a real impact on special teams, so we'll have to see how the team reacts to his leadership.
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Well he helped Hester so maybe he can help cribbs more too.
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The Cleveland Browns today named Chris Tabor as special teams coordinator, the team announced. Tabor brings 18 years of coaching experience between the high school, college and professional levels, including the last three as the Chicago Bears’ assistant special teams coach.
“I believe that Chris is one of the up and coming special teams coaches in this league,” said Browns head coach Pat Shurmur. “He is smart, enthusiastic and has a true passion for this area of the game. In Chris’ three years with the Bears, they consistently boasted one of the best special teams groups in the league, in just about every facet. Having faced them in 2008 and 2009, I know what a challenge it was to go up against their unit. He will be a valuable addition to our coaching staff.”
During Tabor’s three years working with the Bears’ special teams units, Chicago consistently ranked among the league leaders in numerous departments. The Bears ranked in the top-five in no less than nine different special teams categories combined over that three-year period. Chicago led the NFL in total return yards (6,570) and kickoff return yards (5,415) and posted the second-best kickoff return average (25.1), ranked third in punt return defense (7.1) and produced the fifth-best punt return average (10.4). The Bears registered six total kick returns for touchdowns in that time, tied for the second-most in the league.
Also during Tabor’s tenure, the Bears tied for fifth in the league in punts inside the 20-yard line (90) and tied for seventh in field goal percentage (86.2). Since 2008, Chicago is one of only six teams in the NFL to allow one or fewer kick return touchdowns as that total is tied for second in the league over this span.
Tabor also has helped shape some of the NFL’s top return specialists. In 2008, Danieal Manning led the NFL in kickoff return average (29.7). In 2009, Johnny Knox finished second in the league in kickoff return average (29.0) and earned a Pro Bowl selection as a kick returner. In 2010, Devin Hester led the NFL in punt return average (17.1) and punt return touchdowns (3) en route to earning a Pro Bowl nod as a kick returner.
In 2010, the Bears ranked first in the league in punt return average (17.1), second in kickoff return average (25.4), second in average drive start after kickoffs (31.5) and ninth in punt return defense (7.8).
Prior to Chicago, Tabor spent two seasons at Western Michigan University (2006-07) as the running backs and special teams coach. He spent four seasons at Utah State University, where he was the running backs and special teams coach in 2005 after being the Aggies’ assistant head coach in charge of wide receivers from 2002-04.
Tabor spent four seasons at the University of Missouri, first as an offensive graduate assistant (1997-99) before moving into the role of running backs and special teams coach in 2000. Tabor was also the head coach at Culver-Stockton College in Canton, Mo. in 2001.
From 1993-1996, Tabor built experience at the community college and high school levels, coaching at Central Methodist College (1995-96) in Fayette, Mo., Hutchinson (Kansas) Community College (1994) and Benton High School (1993) in St. Joseph, Mo.
Tabor graduated from Benedictine College in Atchison, Kansas, where he played four seasons as quarterback. He earned a master’s degree in education from Columbia (Mo.) College.
Chris and wife, Nikki, have two daughters, Paityn and Lainey.
Chris Tabor’s Coaching Background:
1997-99 University of Missouri, offensive graduate assistant coach
2000 University of Missouri, running backs and special teams coach
2001 Culver-Stockton College, head coach
2002-04 Utah State University, assistant head coach in charge of wide receivers
2005 Utah State University, running backs and special teams coach
2006-07 Western Michigan University, running backs and special teams coach
2008-2010 Chicago Bears, assistant special teams coach
2011 Cleveland Browns, special teams coordinator
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Well, Hester got pulled from full time offensive duty, and I think that helped more than anything. Now he plays about 1/3 to 1/4 of the snaps he played when he signed that obscene contract of his.
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Now we just need an OC... How about: Tom Clements • Joined Packers Jan. 29, 2006. • Possesses 18 years of coaching experience, including two seasons as an NFL offensive coordinator. • Prior to Green Bay, spent 10 seasons coaching quarterbacks under some of the game’s most successful coaches, including Bill Cowher, Mike Ditka and Lou Holtz. • Played 12 years in the Canadian Football League at quarterback and was a seven-time divisional all-star and two-time Grey Cup champion; was inducted into the CFL Hall of Fame in 1994. • An All-American at Notre Dame in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting that year. • Practiced law for five years before beginning coaching career. Tom Clements, entering his 18th season in the coaching profession, is in his fifth year as Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach. Now in his 14th overall NFL season, Clements was named to his position Jan. 29, 2006, by Head Coach Mike McCarthy. Familiar with the role, Clements also served as quarterbacks coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers (2001-03), Kansas City Chiefs (2000) and New Orleans Saints (1997-99). In Green Bay, Clements’ extensive tutelage of Aaron Rodgers has paid dividends, as Rodgers has become the first QB in league history to throw for at least 4,000 yards in each of his first two seasons as a starter. Rodgers’ 4,434 passing yards in 2009 fell just 25 yards short of topping Lynn Dickey’s 1983 franchise record and ranked fourth in the league. He also ranked fourth in the NFL in TD passes (30) and passer rating (103.2), and first in interception percentage (1.29) in earning his first Pro Bowl bid. The passer rating also sits second in franchise history to Bart Starr’s 105.0 mark in 1966. Meanwhile, Rodgers’ first 4,000-yard season in 2008 gave the Packers 4,000-yard passers in consecutive seasons for just the second time in team history, and for the first time in league history those back-to-back 4,000-yard passers were different QBs. The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when Favre surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best in leading the Packers back to the playoffs. Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent. Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, his second season with the Steelers, he helped Tommy Maddox earn The Associated Press Comeback Player of the Year award, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center. Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), which included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins. Prior to his post with the Saints, Clements served under Lou Holtz as quarterbacks coach (1992-94) and wide receivers/assistant head coach (1995) at his alma mater, Notre Dame. While with the Fighting Irish, Clements coached eventual 1993 NFL Rookie of the Year QB Rick Mirer, and WR Derrick Mayes, the Packers’ second-round draft pick in 1996. In addition, he tutored QB Ron Powlus, Notre Dame’s career passing leader in attempts, completions, yardage and touchdowns at the time of his graduation. Inducted into the Canadian Football League’s Hall of Fame in 1994, Clements played quarterback for Ottawa (1975-78), Saskatchewan/Hamilton (1979), Hamilton (1981-82) and Winnipeg (1983-87) during a 12-year career in the CFL. Selected seven times as a divisional All-Star, Clements guided two teams, Ottawa (1976) and Winnipeg (1984), to Grey Cup Championships, earning the Outstanding Offensive Player award in each game. The league’s Rookie of the Year in 1975 and Most Valuable Player in 1987, Clements completed 2,807 of 4,657 passes (60.3 percent) for 39,041 yards and 252 touchdowns during his CFL career. Clements also spent one season, 1980, as a quarterback for Marv Levy’s Kansas City Chiefs. A three-year starter at Notre Dame (1972-74) under Ara Parseghian, Clements led the Irish to a 29-5 record, including an unblemished national championship season in 1973. An All-American in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting when Archie Griffin earned the award. Clements received his degree in economics from Notre Dame in 1975. A licensed attorney, Clements worked from 1988-92 for Bell, Boyd & Lloyd, a Chicago-based law firm. He pursued his law degree during his CFL playing career, graduating magna ... laude from Notre Dame’s School of Law in 1986. In 1994, while on the Notre Dame coaching staff, Clements was an Adjunct Associate Professor of Law at the university’s law school, where he taught “Sports and the Law.” Born in McKees Rocks, Pa., Clements and his wife, Kathe, live in Green Bay. The couple has two grown children: daughter, Stevie, and son, Tom. Link
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with our FO being so quiet on this topic, I would be sorta shocked if it wasn't Clements
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Speed the day. My breath has been held waiting. How much credit goes to assistant ST coach. Tabor sounds like he was REALLY involved. Is it accurate to speak this highly. And having some of those returners, Hester especially, doesn't hurt. Hope he produces with us as well.
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Speed the day. My breath has been held waiting. How much credit goes to assistant ST coach. Tabor sounds like he was REALLY involved. Is it accurate to speak this highly. And having some of those returners, Hester especially, doesn't hurt. Hope he produces with us as well.
I am sure he will. We have a pretty good core of ST players, so it is a good situation to inherit.
Coaches are pretty sharing individuals, and what isn't shared is easily scouted on tape.
I am sure he knows all the stunts and blocking angles to keep us producing sound results.
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1 why am I now just hearing that rob Ryan is no longer our d coordinator?
2 why is there no thread for this?
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2 why is there no thread for this?
You don't read the board??
Ryan has been a Cowboy for a week or so.
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Where is the rob Ryan no longer our coordinator thread? I usually just skim for headlines. Me so confused, did we fire him? Figured he would leave for a hc position before another d coord.
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Stupid Time Warner in Columbus, they took away our only Cleveland news station and I'm shocked I'm just now hearing about this.
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Tabor is a good hire for sure.
I'm curious ...... what makes you feel that he is a particularly good hire .... "for sure"?
I mean, I'm willing to take a wait and see attitude ...... but he's had the very best returner in the league on the special teams that he was the assistant coach for. He might be good ...... but "for sure"? Please fill me in on what makes you see him as a surefire success.
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Speed the day. My breath has been held waiting. How much credit goes to assistant ST coach. Tabor sounds like he was REALLY involved. Is it accurate to speak this highly. And having some of those returners, Hester especially, doesn't hurt. Hope he produces with us as well.
I am sure he will. We have a pretty good core of ST players, so it is a good situation to inherit.
Coaches are pretty sharing individuals, and what isn't shared is easily scouted on tape.
I am sure he knows all the stunts and blocking angles to keep us producing sound results.
We have a good core of special teamers ..... who may or may not be here next year. With the defense in such a state of flux it's hard to say.
The DL/LB portion of the special teams are almost certainly gone. How the FO feels about guys like Sorenson and Ventrone remains to be seen.
We "could" see a complete gut of our special teams corps as soon as next season.
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I think that it will be Clements.
It's about the only name that makes sense at this point, and he is probably the best candidate left for this team.
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I doubt it will be a complete gutting.
The big guys don't matter that much, meaning whoever we get will be able to block. No matter the team, teams don't get many kicks blocked in a season.
I think there is always room on a team for guys like Ventrone and Costanza. If it isn't them, I am pretty confident we will be able to find similar players.
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I think that it will be Clements.
It's about the only name that makes sense at this point, and he is probably the best candidate left for this team.
I sure hope so, I figured the two best guys I could think of for the job that we haven't looked into yet ( I wanted to look at Jim Zorn and Brad Childress), were Bill Callahan of the Jets and this guy Clemments.
I'm surprised that no one hired him this offseason (Callahan). He's been OCoordinator before and the Jets love him. He's their assistant coach and he coaches the O-Line. All the radio stations talk about what a good coach he is and he's def one of Ryan's favorite guys. I know he coached the Raiders for two seasons and brought them to the Super Bowl (Gruden's Raider Squad, Gruden went to T-Bay and coached Dungy's squad). He was O-Coordinator under John Gruden for the Raiders before that (which makes me think......ding ding ding, Holmgren tree. Might know the offense). I know that Rich Gannon ran an ultra efficient passing attack under him, for at least one year.
He also was head coach of Nebraska from 2004-2007. He then went to the Jets as O-Line Coach.
I guess if Callahan knows the offense, he's the guy I would want us to go for, just because of the praise he gets in the NY Area and his past history.
This guy Clemments could also be our pick, but I really don't know anything about him, and I don't live near the GB area so I don't get their local news and opinions on him.
Does anyone hear know anything about Callahan and have an informed opinion on whether or not he'd be a good option? I don't care for a wikipedia article, I just am wondering what people thought of the Raiders under him: If their offense fits a WCO and was he thought highly of as a coordinator or offensive mind
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Well, the Browns want a coordinator who will double as QB coach IIRC. (I recall reading that in a Shurmur interview) That would seem to favor Clements.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Well, the Browns want a coordinator who will double as QB coach IIRC. (I recall reading that in a Shurmur interview) That would seem to favor Clements.
If so, Colt will certainly be set up to succeed. We'll have what, at least three former QB coaches in significant positions of power? I'm thinking of Holmgren and Shurmer. He won't be wanting for hands-on direction, methinks.
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