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So far we have these coaching positions confirmed
Head coach/offensive coordinator
QB coach
WR coach
Defensive coordinator
Defensive line coach
Linebackers coach
Am I missing any?
There was a report out today,, not sure where I read it, but it said we will be retaining some coaches. it wasn't specific as to who they were...
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Wilson sounds like a pretty competent guy. We really need someone to work with what will, no doubt, be a very young WR corps, and he seems like a pretty good choice from the sound of it. Bill Davis is a Yoiungstown guy, so hopefully he works out. 
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Looks like Brian Cox is gone ...... he was one of my favorite coaches here too. Brought in another former Seahawks coach. I don't know a whole lot about him. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...87-7ce9f9e36920The Cleveland Browns today announced the additions of Dwaine Board, Bill Davis, Mark Whipple and Mike Wilson to the club’s coaching staff. Board joins the Browns as defensive line coach, after most recently spending the 2009 season as the defensive line coach of the Oakland Raiders. Before joining the Raiders, he spent six seasons (2003-08) as the defensive line coach of the Seattle Seahawks. Board began his NFL coaching career in 1990 as the defensive line assistant with the San Francisco 49ers, after a successful 10-year playing career. A fifth-round (137th overall) draft choice of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 1979 NFL Draft, Board was released by the Steelers and joined the 49ers as a rookie, where he registered a team-leading seven sacks. He played with San Francisco from 1979-88, and retired in 1988 after joining the New Orleans Saints for the final four games of that season. A native of Rocky Mount, Va., Board and his wife, Lynne, have three daughters, Camille, Allie and Tessa Raine.
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Board did some good work in Seattle under Rhodes. He appeared to get the most out of guys like Rocky Benard. It is an interesting group being assembled on D. Ton of experience on that side of the ball.
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Kay Cabot is saying we retained DB coach Jerome Henderson, RB coach Gary Brown, TE coach Steve Hagen, and OL coach George Warhop.
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I thought that Harrison did a good job with all of our DBs last year. With the exception of Eric Wright, I thought that the rest of our DBs really developed nicely. I thought that he did a really nice job with Haden, Ward, Elam and Adams.
Warhop did a nice job with constant turmoil on the OL. (right side) I think that he's a quality coach.
Brown did a nice job with Hillis .... I think .... but being that we used mainly 1 RB all year long, it's hard to tell if that was him .... or Hillis. Probably both, but it's hard to know who benfitted whom most.
The TE coach did a nice job with Watson, but the rest of the TE corps really didn't do a lot. Again, I'm not sure if that's the coach or players.
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So far we have these coaching positions confirmed
Head coach/offensive coordinator
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WR coach
Defensive coordinator
Defensive line coach
Linebackers coach
Am I missing any?
There was a report out today,, not sure where I read it, but it said we will be retaining some coaches. it wasn't specific as to who they were...
The ST's Coach we hired from the Bears.
The name slips my memory.
So other then an OC, it would seem we have our staff set with the Coach's we retained and new ones that were hired.
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We also hired a WR coach...Mike Wilson.
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Wilson joins the Browns as wide receivers coach. Most recently, Wilson spent the 2009-10 seasons as the wide receivers coach of the Las Vegas Locomotives of the UFL. Prior to his stint with the UFL, Wilson spent three seasons (2004-06) with the Arizona Cardinals, coaching both tight ends (2004) and wide receivers (2005-06). Wilson also spent three seasons as the wide receivers coach at the University of Southern California (1997-99). Prior to his stint at USC, he spent two seasons with the Oakland Raiders (1995-96) as the club’s wide receivers coach. Wilson began his coaching career at Stanford University, where he served as wide receiver and tight ends coach from 1992-94 under head coach Bill Walsh. A ninth-round (250th overall) draft pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 1981 NFL Draft, Wilson spent 10 seasons with the San Francisco 49ers (1981-90) as a wide receiver, where he amassed 159 receptions for 2,199 receiving yards and 15 touchdowns. During his career with San Francisco, Wilson helped the 49ers to four Super Bowl titles, six NFC Championship game appearances and eight division titles. A native of Los Angeles, Wilson has two daughters, Samantha and Emma.
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So he was with the Cardinals when both Fitzgerald and Boldin were in the early stages.
Also, for what it's worth, the Las Vegas UFL team has won back-to-back championships.
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Now we just need to go get him a Larry Fitzgerald to work with. 
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So from what I can gather: Fearless Leader: Pat Shurmur Defense DC: Dick Jauron D-Line: Dwaine Board Linebackers: Bill Davis DB: Jerome Henderson Offense OC: May not have one QB: Mark Whipple WR: Mike Wilson RB: Gary Brown TE: Steve Hagen O-line: George Warhop Special Teams: Chris Tabor At this point I don't care and won't care until there are results one way or another. Sure its fun to discuss but at this point its all speculation. I just want the Browns to win period.
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Fearless Leader: Mike Holmgren
Defense
DC: Dick Jauron
D-Line: Dwaine Board
Linebackers: Bill Davis
DB: Jerome Henderson
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OC: Pat Shurmur
QB: Mark Whipple
WR: Mike Wilson
RB: Gary Brown
TE: Steve Hagen
O-line: George Warhop
Special Teams: Chris Tabor
At this point I don't care and won't care until there are results one way or another. Sure its fun to discuss but at this point its all speculation. I just want the Browns to win period.
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Davis was linebackers coach of the Browns in 1999 under Chris Palmer.
I remember watching some good play from some linebackers like Jamir Miller, (may have been a defensive end) and Rahib Abdullah, who seemed to play above his talent.
I wonder if Davis was responsible for any of this? or ,
It says Davis in 99, so was he replaced in 00, or were some of the blitz's that seemed to work really well , little to none of his doing?
I'd like to see a coach, who calls some of those blitzes that seemed to get to the QB's blind side without even being picked up by the offense, I'd like to see what that coach could or would do with Dqwell, Jackson, if they would re sign him.
If that's impossible, maybe he can get more out of Maiava ? more playing time at least?
Look at that, the whole seaon is a whole lot of questions.
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I remember watching some good play from some linebackers like Jamir Miller, (may have been a defensive end) and Rahib Abdullah, who seemed to play above his talent.
I wonder if Davis was responsible for any of this? or ,
It says Davis in 99, so was he replaced in 00, or were some of the blitz's that seemed to work really well , little to none of his doing?
Bill Davis was in Cleveland in 1999. In the year 2000, he was with the Packers (MH left the Packers in 99) He's bounced around a great deal, having worked for 25% of the teams in the league.
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I'd like to see a coach, who calls some of those blitzes that seemed to get to the QB's blind side without even being picked up by the offense, I'd like to see what that coach could or would do with Dqwell, Jackson, if they would re sign him.
I doubt the LB coach will be calling any plays. He will be helping to set up schemes/packages in which blitzes are utilized, but he won't be dictating them. He has bounced around in both the 3-4 as well as the 4-3.........
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From the team pageDavis coached in Carolina LBs from 95-98, here in 99, then went to GB as Def Asst./DL coach for 2000, then ATL as LB coach 01-03, NYG LB coach in 04, SF as DC from 05-06, Arizona as LB coach 07-08 then DC from 09-10.
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Great position coaches make difference by Ross Tucker (former NFL offensive linemen) Quote:
They are never really talked about by fans on talk radio. In fact, they are rarely even interviewed themselves. Instead, they do their heavy lifting in the background and out of the limelight, even though they often are a critical component of a team's success or failure on game day.
"They" are the position coaches of the National Football League. They can make a huge difference in the performance of their unit and thus the team as a whole. Trust me, I've been there and seen it daily.
I've seen running backs coaches who helped get our quarterback killed because they weren't able to properly convey the blitz-pickup assignments to our backs. I've played against defensive line coaches such as the Philadelphia Eagles' Jim Washburn and the Indianapolis Colts' John Teerlinck, who each have a unique ability to pick the right guys to stay on the roster or somehow push all the players they are handed to play incredibly hard every snap.
I had nine offensive line coaches during my playing career. It was very obvious that some were better than others. In fact, it often jumped off the tape when I watched film of other lines as well. The well-coached units worked very well in concert, whether it was on a double team for a linebacker in the run game or picking up a three-man stunt in pass protection. The poorly coached teams struggled in those areas and more.
Nowhere is the importance of position coaches more evident than in Super Bowl XLV. The Green Bay Packers' linebackers coaches -- Winston Moss and Kevin Greene -- have continually gotten outstanding production from their group. The unit has excelled despite being decimated by injury. Nick Barnett, Brady Poppinga, Brandon Chillar and even Brad Jones have all been placed on the injured reserve list during the season. Yet despite losing what amounts to an entire linebacking corps, the Packers have found a way to help turn Desmond Bishop into an emerging star while getting solid production from previous unknowns Frank Zombo, Erik Walden and Robert Francois.
Yet despite the masterful job that Moss and Greene have done in Green Bay, they may have been outdone by Pittsburgh Steelers first-year offensive line coach Sean Kugler. He came to Pittsburgh this past offseason from the Buffalo Bills without a lot of fanfare or experience at the NFL level. All he's had to deal with since then is the loss of his two starting offensive tackles from a unit that was considered the team's weak link even before those injuries.
Instead, Kugler has found a way to make a unit consisting of a journeyman left tackle, an over-the-hill right tackle, an undrafted free-agent right guard and -- with the injury to star center Maurkice Pouncey in the AFC Championship Game -- an undrafted free agent who has started four career games (all at guard) as Pouncey's replacement. And all that not-so-fearsome foursome did -- with the help of left guard Chris Kemoeatu -- was help the Steelers rush for more than 160 yards against the New York Jets to clinch the AFC title. That's not too shabby.
It is all the more impressive when you consider that on that cobbled-together unit, only Kemoeatu would be ranked among the top 20 offensive linemen in the league at their respective positions. No matter. As a unit, under Kugler's leadership, the Steelers' offensive line is good enough to march to the Super Bowl.
Now the Steelers have to get it done once more against Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji and the gang -- without Pouncey. It will take their very best effort, and that includes my position coach of the year, Kugler.
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Pretty crazy. The Eagles promoted their offensive line coach of 13 years to be their defensive coordinator.
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Andy Reid is done for. It looks like he was forced to can his DC so he went with the old "I'll show them" method.
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He did replace the O-Line coach with Howard Mudd, one of the best in the game.
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The Eagles promoted their offensive line coach of 13 years to be their defensive coordinator.
Umm ..... OK. Suddenly our moves make perfect sense. Someome drugged the NFL bottled water supply .......
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Well at this point, it doesn't look like we'll be interviewing Clements or anyone else from Green Bay or Pittsburgh' staffs. I know some (including me) were hoping to interview and possibly hire Clements as the O.C., but apparently it won't happen.
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Well at this point, it doesn't look like we'll be interviewing Clements or anyone else from Green Bay or Pittsburgh' staffs. I know some (including me) were hoping to interview and possibly hire Clements as the O.C., but apparently it won't happen.
I know, I've been checking espntwitter and cleveland.com hoping to read some article about us interviewing Clements to be O-Coordinator.
Or at least somebody..............
If Holmgren is having it, then that's fine. But he's accountable for this decision. It is just very unorthodox not to have an O-Coordinator if you're a first year coach (IMO).
Garrett makes sense because he's not changing the system (but he hasn't even proven himself yet), but our guy is putting in a new system, and he didn't hire one.
But yeah, I'm quite skeptical about this plan. Although I will definitely give it a chance. If Heckert and Holmgren agree that it will work, then fine. Allow it to happen. I just never envisioned this
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Well at this point, it doesn't look like we'll be interviewing Clements or anyone else from Green Bay or Pittsburgh' staffs. I know some (including me) were hoping to interview and possibly hire Clements as the O.C., but apparently it won't happen.
Well, the signs have been pointing to the staff being complete at this point, so that's really no surprise.
We'll see how it works out.
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Well at this point, it doesn't look like we'll be interviewing Clements or anyone else from Green Bay or Pittsburgh' staffs. I know some (including me) were hoping to interview and possibly hire Clements as the O.C., but apparently it won't happen.
I think it might be a bit early to worry about it. Give it another week and then if they haven't moved on anyone, then I think it's official.. But 3 days after the superbowl,,, eh.. no biggie.
Besides, Holmgren said that he would let the press know AFTER they interviewed people.. Not before.
What I found funny, and I'm guilty as well of being a bit negative on how things are being set up. Mike McCarthy calls the offensive plays for GB.. He's the head coach and he calls the plays.
I was critical of Shumur calling plays, then I come to find out McCarthy does it.
What's that mean? really, nothing. Just a funny thing.
Green Bay runs an offense similar to what we are reported to be going towards.
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Our coach only has 2 years of play calling but you get the drift there I think.
Green Bay has a OC that doesn't call plays
Green Bay has a old time DC in Capers (but he runs the 3-4 instead of the 4-3 we are reportedly moving towards with Jauron)
And they just beat our Arch Rivals to win the Superbowl....
Just some funny stuff there to mull over.
back on topic, for all we know, at this very moment, Clements is in Berea talking to Shumur, Heckert and Holmgren....
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Proof is in the pudding. SB showed us the blueprint for at least one way to beat the division leader. Compared to what we have not been gutsy enough to throw at them thus far. I haven't given up hope of an OC yet, because playcalling is a large part of the game day, but it is not the total sum of what that coach does, especially with a young QB. So I think Damanshot has some quality points. Liked the end section for some things to compare and consider when we play them. 
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That would be sweet!
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for all we know, at this very moment, Clements is in Berea talking to Shumur, Heckert and Holmgren....
That would be sweet!
I think so.. that he comes from an organization where the OC doesn't call plays is maybe something positive.. we'll see I guess.
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Garrett makes sense because he's not changing the system (but he hasn't even proven himself yet), but our guy is putting in a new system, and he didn't hire one.
I saw the first run of super bowl odds for next season and the Cowboys are 3rd at 8:1.. ahead of the Steelers and the Patriots.. don't remember who was second, Packers were #1, don't remember #2.. Falcons perhaps? When are they going to actually make the Cowboys win something before people get all up about how good they are?
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Garrett makes sense because he's not changing the system (but he hasn't even proven himself yet), but our guy is putting in a new system, and he didn't hire one.
I saw the first run of super bowl odds for next season and the Cowboys are 3rd at 8:1.. ahead of the Steelers and the Patriots.. don't remember who was second, Packers were #1, don't remember #2.. Falcons perhaps? When are they going to actually make the Cowboys win something before people get all up about how good they are?
The Cowboys don't need to win,, They are Americas Team... Didn't you know that
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well, they have won 1 playoff game in the last 15 years, have a QB coming back from a season ending injury, a new, inexperienced HC, and a DC bringing a completely different system to their defense, which might expose their dreadful secondary (though they should get a bunch more sacks too, so it could work out) what's not to like to make that the SB favorite? on the plus side, their OL did play better than I thought they would, Felix Jones and Dez Bryant proved they are legit (and Roy and Miles did very well in their roles too). and they have a decent DL and a very good LB corps. still, they should be maybe the 13th-15th SB pick, not the 3rd, but Vegas is just trying to even out the bets and lots of people must throw $$$ down on the Cowboys every year (maybe it's all Jerry  )
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what's not to like to make that the SB favorite?
The Browns are the superbowl favorite??
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The Packers certainly did show 1 way to beat the Steelers, but let's not forget that if it weren't for a Roethlisberger INT returned for a TD (as Delhomme did for/to us in several games this season) we could have been looking at a different outcome. The Packers played a great game, and they are a great team .... but so are the Steelers. If you played that game 10 times, I doubt that the Packers would be looking at much more than a split. In other words, the Packers have great players everywhere, have players that fit their scheme perfectly, and have 5 years in their current offensive system under their current head coach, and what they did wasn't a massive blowout. We're not going to do what they did to the Steelers anytime soon ..... unless the Steelers have a complete and total breakdown somewhere along the line. However, I would expect the Steelers to draft a pair of outstanding OL this coming year, and be right back as one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl next year.
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The Packers certainly did show 1 way to beat the Steelers, but let's not forget that if it weren't for a Roethlisberger INT returned for a TD (as Delhomme did for/to us in several games this season) we could have been looking at a different outcome.
And if it werent for dropped passes the Pack could have hung another 14 on the Steelers...
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well, they have won 1 playoff game in the last 15 years, have a QB coming back from a season ending injury, a new, inexperienced HC, and a DC bringing a completely different system to their defense, which might expose their dreadful secondary (though they should get a bunch more sacks too, so it could work out)
what's not to like to make that the SB favorite?
The Browns are the superbowl favorite??
pretty darn close in the overview huh 
(i'd take our secondary 100x over theirs though)
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The Packers certainly did show 1 way to beat the Steelers, but let's not forget that if it weren't for a Roethlisberger INT returned for a TD (as Delhomme did for/to us in several games this season) we could have been looking at a different outcome.
And if it werent for dropped passes the Pack could have hung another 14 on the Steelers...
Also equally true.
If the Steelers hadn't lost their Center and WR, they might have won.
If the Packers hadn't lost their DB and WR they still might have won.
Bottom line is that is they played 10 against each other, no one would feel great predicting more than an even split.
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Bottom line is that is they played 10 against each other, no one would feel great predicting more than an even split.
I would pick Packers to win 6 to 4.. since I know they are already up 1. 
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Daryl Ruiter and Mary Kay Cabot are both reporting that at the Cleveland Sports Awards tonight Pat Shurmur announced that he will not hire an OC this season.
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Daryl Ruiter and Mary Kay Cabot are both reporting that at the Cleveland Sports Awards tonight Pat Shurmur announced that he will not hire an OC this season.
So he's the OC everyday and the HC on game day. Should be fine.
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