Another receiver I like the look of if we can't pull Hankerson in Round 2, would be this guy in round 3 or 4.... Niles Paul.
Highlight real isn't the most impressive but there's something about the guy that makes me think draft sleeper.
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Release: Effective getting past college corners jamming him on the line using speed, above-average upper-body strength and violent hands. Faces a lot of off coverage because of his deep threat ability and can eat up the cushion quickly. Has a second gear to separate once in the open field.
Hands: Looks the part of a No. 1 receiver, but needs to tighten up the occasional drop to earn the confidence of his quarterback at the next level. Capable of putting his hands in front of his body to make the catch but will trap balls in his chest when facing the quarterback. A threat down the sideline because he can track the ball over either shoulder. Overcomes his average height with the strength to fight for the ball in the air and makes great catches in tight quarters. Seems to fight the ball at times, even those thrown on the money, when he's on the run. Loses concentration when trying to make a play before securing the ball, or if he knows a corner is closing fast. Gets down after a drop, but usually bounces back to make the next play.
Route running: Versatile receiver who can run every route in the tree and is lined up in the slot, outside and in motion. Uses his speed and a nice head fake to get the seam against zones. Has quick feet and drops his hips to cut effectively on out routes and comebacks; uses that ability to force corners to bite on hitch-and-go routes. Rounds off crossing routes at times, but won't have the cushion at the next level that college corners give him. Could work his way back to a scrambling quarterback more often.
After the catch: Capable of turning short passes into long gains with good speed, elusiveness and tough running. Willing to go over the middle; eludes defenders on crossing routes to cut across the grain. Used on reverses despite his thick build, and has a burst to get to the sideline. Strong arms and hands to prevent fumbles while running through tackles in space. Loses his balance after the catch too often. Will lower his head to deliver a blow instead of taking one on some plays, but on others he will duck out of bounds instead of cutting inside to churn out more yards. Solid kick and punt returner; not overly elusive but can make a man miss with a quick cut, take advantage of running lanes with good acceleration and run through arm tackles. Hears footsteps at times when fielding punts, leading to fumbles, and needs to come up and field short punts to prevent turnovers and big bounces.
Blocking: Generally effective blocker who can neutralize defensive backs on the edge by latching on and moving his feet to sustain. Will give a strong punch that knocks corners off-balance. Comes back to help scrambling quarterbacks, or running backs and receivers working behind him. Not strong enough to take on linebackers, however. Must learn better angles to allow runner to cut inside or get to the sideline. Inconsistent making the block if his corner is playing off the line; sits back and waits for the player to come to him. Also misses targets when he comes down inside to take out linebackers and safeties; could give more effort in these situations.
Intangibles: Arrested twice on alcohol-related incidents: suspicion of DUI in April 2009 (pled guilty to lesser charge of reckless driving and was fined, coaches suspended him for the remainder of spring practice/spring game) and underage consumption/urinating in public in May 2010 (pled guilty to underage consumption and was fined). Earned respect of coaches and teammates for his work ethic in spring 2009 practices; admitted openly that he did not work hard enough coming out of high school. Broke his foot in 2010 and missed final two regular-season games, but returned for the bowl game.
You probably want to delete the video .... the song's lyrics aren't exactly PG .... or even R for that matter.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I'm just saying ..... I mean, I'd hate to see you get into trouble here over something stupid like that.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I wish these were all in one video, but they're not. This is a 6'1"-6'2" who can run and can play the ball. He's a really physical guy who can bump and who can get into the backfield and make a solid tackle. Right now, for some reason, he's rated as a fringe draft guy. We can probably get him in the 5th or 6th.
Quote: I am an OSU homer but I usually don't pimp my guys except this one:
Dane Sanzenbacher. Gamer that I see as a Wes Welker type of guy. Makes plays all the time. Very tough. Projected as a 7th rounder. He's a guy that would do anything you asked of him and more (go over the middle and play special teams). Fans would love him.
5'11" 182 lbs 4.58
Get him!!
I don't care what size he is. he is going to be very successful. He can find away to get open and he can catch the ball. The thing I like most about him is that he never gives up.
Quote: He doesn't drop balls and finds ways to get open. I never did like the Robiskie pick. I would take Sanzenbacher in the 5th to make sure we got him.
I'm not defending Robiskie's body of "work" as a Brown here, but I don't recall anybody, from the people on this board to the so-called experts (or both ) saying they thought Robiskie would be anything but a fine pick in the 2nd round. There were so many friggin' people labelling him the "most NFL ready WR" in that draft.
And I don't see anythign from Sanzenbacher that makes him look any better than Robo did w/ OSU.
All that said, I think he'd be a fine pickup in the mid to later rounds. . .
I am no expert but I did say it was a bad pick. I didn't think he was very good during his senior year at OSU and he hasn't changed my opinion since.
Peterson at corner. Put Wright into a different place so he can stop killing us. I like the D backfield I see with this. I also think it addresses more NFL throwing. If we have shortened coaching, this is a simple way to help minimize damage of changing defense. Still want major line upgrades, but this is a few in a lifetime guy perhaps. JMO (nuthin' humble about it!).
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Quote: My period to edit has run out.... Refs, can you remove video?
They don't read the board!!!
Anyway.....
Quote: NFL.com's Bucky Brooks says Colorado OT Nate Solder "ran phenomenally well" in field drills at the NFL Combine on Saturday, and believes he has "all the athleticism" needed to be a left tackle in the NFL. Add Brooks to the list of draft evaluators that believe Solder is this year's top offensive tackle, even if he underwhelmed on the bench press Friday. It remains a distinct possibility that the Lions will take him at No. 13 overall. Feb. 26 - 7:19 pm et Source: NFL.com
I watched these drills and this kid was REALLY impressive, has the capability to move his feet and his ass at the same time in the same direction.
Not looking to supplant JT at LT of course, but if we could trade down and get this kid and hit on another pick in the 1st with a DE it would be very fruitful. We would have a solid RT and a backup at LT if JT ever goes down......
Quote: My period to edit has run out.... Refs, can you remove video?
They don't read the board!!!
Anyway.....
Quote: NFL.com's Bucky Brooks says Colorado OT Nate Solder "ran phenomenally well" in field drills at the NFL Combine on Saturday, and believes he has "all the athleticism" needed to be a left tackle in the NFL. Add Brooks to the list of draft evaluators that believe Solder is this year's top offensive tackle, even if he underwhelmed on the bench press Friday. It remains a distinct possibility that the Lions will take him at No. 13 overall. Feb. 26 - 7:19 pm et Source: NFL.com
I watched these drills and this kid was REALLY impressive, has the capability to move his feet and his ass at the same time in the same direction.
Not looking to supplant JT at LT of course, but if we could trade down and get this kid and hit on another pick in the 1st with a DE it would be very fruitful. We would have a solid RT and a backup at LT if JT ever goes down......
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I watched all of Solder as well and I really like him too.
For me, the senior bowl is more telling for linemen than is the combine. I was not impressed with solder at the senior bowl. Actually I'm not overly impressed with any of the senior LTs. I haven't seen Tyron smith in a game just to watch him but i'm tempted to rank him highly just because I don't like the other guys that much. If I had to rank them today (specifically as LTs), it would be:
castonzo smith carimi sherrod solder carpenter Franklin brewer
and that would be it. Haven't seen anything on ijalana and the other guys to me are RTs only or guards.
Panthers would be wise to address biggest hole with Gabbert
With labor talks continuing, the draft is center stage when it comes to personnel matters. This year's crop is filled with talent, but there is not a unanimous No. 1 pick at this point. With the Panthers holding the top slot, there has been much talk around the league that they will take a defensive lineman -- in large part because their new coach, Ron Rivera, was formerly a defensive coordinator.
That philosophy never made sense to me. Any new head coach must do what is best for the team, not for one side of the ball. And for Rivera, he must fix his quarterback position -- right now. It has been reliably told to me that Jimmy Clausen is not the short- or long-term answer for the Panthers. His play during games was bad, but it was even worse in practice, according to my source, which makes the Panthers feel like they blew a second-round pick last year.
The Panthers are a team without many areas of strength, with the largest void coming at quarterback. They cannot continue to think they can beat the Saints, Buccaneers or Falcons unless they add a talented signal-caller. So does lack of talent mean quarterback Blaine Gabbert should be the first overall pick? I am beginning to think so.
Gabbert is talented and has been productive on every level. He has an above average arm and can make every throw with accuracy. While he can move around the pocket, he always has his eye level down the field to make throws. Gabbert is accurate, appears to show the toughness needed to play the position and appears to be a leader. His off-the-field behavior is flawless and he has demonstrated the willingness to work hard to improve. So what is wrong with Gabbert? From my viewpoint, not much.
Where can the Panthers get a quarterback who can make all the throws with accuracy, move around the pocket and lead the team if they don't take Gabbert? This has nothing to do with them not having a second round pick, figuring they might be able to get a cheaper option at that point. This has everything to do with rebuilding the franchise with a franchise quarterback. As my old friend and former Houston Oilers assistant coach Frank Novak would say, "If not now, when?" And if the Panthers don't take Gabbert now, when do they solve their quarterback issue?
The "if not now, when" theory is one that many teams avoid. When I was with the Raiders, we avoided it, thinking Rich Gannon could play one more year and passing on Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers in 2004. The Dolphins also decided to wait when they passed on Matt Ryan in 2008 to take Pro Bowler Jake Long as their left tackle, figuring they would get a quarterback later. But second-round pick Chad Henne has not proved to be the player they hoped and now the Dolphins are desperately seeking a quarterback.
Had the Raiders taken Big Ben or Rivers, there would have never been the JaMarcus Russell debacle. Had the Dolphins went with Ryan, they might have a hole at left tackle but the most important position would be filled. A team with many needs cannot solve them all in one draft, so they must look to solve the most important one first -- assuming there is a player worthy of the pick.
From my perspective, Gabbert is the real deal. If the Panthers' evaluations of Gabbert are the same as mine, they might have found a clear-cut top pick.
Isn't Gabbert a "system" QB, b/c most QB's from Mizzou do pretty well there.. what was the last ones name.. Chase Daniels? He had great numbers, but no one pimped him hard.. I'm a little confused as to why Gabbert is getting this hype.
Quote: Isn't Gabbert a "system" QB, b/c most QB's from Mizzou do pretty well there.. what was the last ones name.. Chase Daniels? He had great numbers, but no one pimped him hard.. I'm a little confused as to why Gabbert is getting this hype.
It is of coarse the highest position of value, but it is all relative to those in this draft class. If we had a Luck, Ryan or Flacco in this draft class, I don't think He even goes in the first round, but the above mentioned players of coarse are not. I don't think that there is one clear cut can't miss QB in this class, but Gabbert I think tops what class there is.
All the more of a reason for being thankful we drafted McCoy last year
Dion Lewis, Pitt No one looked good last year at Pitt, for some reason the team just fell apart. But the year before Lewis and Baldwin looked fantastic. Most people have Lewis going in the fourth but with this weak RB class I see him going in the third. Probably not a good choice for the Brownies, but I think he'll succeed somewhere.
Chase Daniels is currently backing up Drew Brees ... I liked the guy, but didn't think we needed a QB at the time. He's listed at 6'0 around 225 to 230 also ...
Hasn't done much ... but then again neither has almost any QB who backs up an elite (or at least solid) QB ...
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
Overview: Gabbert has all the physical tools you look for when drafting a quarterback high. He has good size. Is a great athlete and can make every throw from any situation. He comes with the typical spread questions, but his athletic ability and work ethic should make it an easy transition. I had a hard time coming up with a pro comparison for Gabbert. I came to the conclusion that he's a mixture of Brett Favre, Ben Roethlisberger, and Jay Cutler. If you have watched those guys during their careers, then you know what I mean. You're going to get the good and the bad with Blaine Gabbert. With his gunslinger mentality, he will make you jump out of your seat with excitement or want to kick the dog after a bonehead play. Hopefully whoever drafts him will have a good team around him to help bail him out when he needs it. He has a very good chance to be a special player and could be an option for the Bengals with the fourth overall pick.
Exactly who I was coming to pimp. I don't want to miss on another Matthews!
You won't get no arguments from me. With the only exception being where (round) he is selected.
Casey matthews was hurt i think at the time of the combine so his draft rating has dropped a ton.. so yea i would love to pick this guy up around the 4 or 5th rounds be nice but probably not going to happen.
He should be available from round 4 and above. Casey is not his brother, but I think he will find a home in the League.
I think he will have to earn his spot on a roster on the special teams at first, but I like that he reads plays fast and won't take many false steeps (something that really will help a LBer without great speed) and I like him in coverage. He doesn't have a great burst as a pass rusher, but he has the ability to flatten out and move laterally to the QB or RB of the outside.
Edit: WILB in a 34 and a WLB in a 43 is where I see him playing.
Curios ... your description on Matthews brought the image of Maiva to mind... you see any comparison between the two? Because if we are going to draft a mid round linebacker, I'd much rather spend that pick on a rotational D-Lineman than get a rotational linebacker
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
Quote: Curios ... your description on Matthews brought the image of Maiva to mind... you see any comparison between the two? Because if we are going to draft a mid round linebacker, I'd much rather spend that pick on a rotational D-Lineman than get a rotational linebacker
Yes I think that they have similar attributes. I agree on adding a rotational DL in the later rounds and mentioned the ones I would target in my top 100 thread. Some could eventually develop into starters too.
Given their size and abilities I think that Maiava and Matthews is a very good comparison. Both are on the small side for linebackers (Maiava was 6'0" 229 coming out of college, Matthews is 6'1" 232). Both have great instincts getting to the ball and can cover. Also, both have great bloodlines (Matthews everyone knows about, Maiava's uncle is Dwyane Johnson ).
I am excited to see Maiava play in the 4-3. He should thrive.
I would also be excited to see us draft Matthews, but only if we get him from round four on.
Quote: Given their size and abilities I think that Maiava and Matthews is a very good comparison. Both are on the small side for linebackers (Maiava was 6'0" 229 coming out of college, Matthews is 6'1" 232). Both have great instincts getting to the ball and can cover. Also, both have great bloodlines (Matthews everyone knows about, Maiava's uncle is Dwyane Johnson ).
I am excited to see Maiava play in the 4-3. He should thrive.
I would also be excited to see us draft Matthews, but only if we get him from round four on.
I have to chuckle a little every time I see a height listed for Matthews.
Ah I guess will give'em 6'1"
He is a shade under.
Maiava we are pretty sure we still have, but then its hard to be sure of anything without a new CBA.
The last player I "pimped" was the Georgia rb Moreno who has been very ordinary for Denver. I was upset we had to settle for Haden and the kid looks really top notch. I like Carimi at OT and the Georgia WR yet the browns have so many pressing needs i would rather juke some team into thinking we are taking a QB and have them "deal" with us. I like the Mathews kid too. I remember wanting Maluaga who has been very ordinary for the Bengals yet the Lber we took from Hawaii is long gone for us. we have so many directions and talented players to choose from.
Ok I went on youtube and carimi pushed heyward all over the field and the miami defender. was equally as nimble pass blocking as he was as punishing run blocker. At Rt we cut Turnstiles St. Clair and the front office "declared" the oft injured slow of foot Pashos as Rt. run out and injured in Jacksonville, San Fran and now was in the tub in Cleveland. neither a good pass blocker he combines that with not much power as a runner. with Carimi and Thomas we can start road grading some teams and buy Colt another 2 seconds to pass. I would "bait" some team that we were taking newton and get carimi and a dlineman in Rd 2.
Exactly who I was coming to pimp. I don't want to miss on another Matthews!
You won't get no arguments from me. With the only exception being where (round) he is selected.
Casey matthews was hurt i think at the time of the combine so his draft rating has dropped a ton.. so yea i would love to pick this guy up around the 4 or 5th rounds be nice but probably not going to happen.
San Diego State wide receiver Vincent Brown had a terrific Senior Bowl week, but his postseason momentum hit a speedbump at the combine when he ran the forty-yard dash around 4.7.
Brown improved that time drastically at his pro day on Thursday according to Adam Caplan of FoxSports.com, running between a 4.52 and 4.57. Brown isn’t known as a burner, but he has good hands and excellent route running skills.
“Well, I play much faster than my 40-time says. I can be a deep threat and I have a pretty good feel for the game,” Brown said.
Brown fits the profile of what the Chargers usually look for in a receiver, and they seemed to show special interest in him throughout the draft process. He’s likely a mid-round prospect.
posting just because I feel all alone in my "hate" for Von Miller. I still feel he's a make a great play or no play type of player and top10 is way too high for him. but, I am in a definitive minority in that opinion.
at least KC Joyner has my back
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Zach (Bronx, NY)
Did you look at any of the pass rusher's in the draft. I was a little underwhelmed by Von Miller highlights I saw - what say you?
KC Joyner (4:39 PM)
Definitely want to look at more tape on Miller. The tape I've seen thus far has him looking a lot like the Alabama LB who is now playing with the Raiders (memory is not serving me well here). He played very well at times for Bama but also had games where he didn't show up. Miller looks to have some of those same habits. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/37566/football-scientist-kc-joyner
) saying they thought Robiskie would be anything but a fine pick in the 2nd round. There were so many friggin' people labelling him the "most NFL ready WR" in that draft.
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