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Hello fellow dawgs and dawgetts. It's me kazbone again. I had a post on here about two months ago regarding a lady friend i was head over heels for..The girl problem post that some of you probably remember and also helped me out so much with. Kept me sane too, now that i think about it. lol.
Anways wanted to give you fellow dawgs an update on the current situation, If anyone cared. And i do thank you all dearly for your advice and support.. Well i took your guys and gals majority advice on just letting it be and backing off because she was currently seeing another man at the time and it deeply broke my heart. But it also has paid off in the end.
We had a talk not to long after i got your advice and no not txting i told her i needed to say it to her not type it. Anyhow, i told her that it would be best that we quit talking because i really liked her but didnt want to intervene with her current boyfriend. She agreed and said it was best.She would see me around probably in the future, she doesnt want to break my heart yada, yada yada.. Anyways about a month or so after the conversation i see her out with her friends and her boyfriend, which is a nice guy i might add i went to school with him so i know him. I give her alittle eye contact, show her im still in play if you would and go about my regular business talking with my friends. Playing it off like she doesnt exist.. She sees im having fun and starts making out with him like you wouldnt believe. I pay no attention showing her it doesnt bother me, tell my buddy the Browns are going to the playoffs next year yada, yada, yada..
A week later im at my favorite watering hole slamming a couple brews, having a good time. And what do you no she walks in again with her friend but this time no boyfriend. Probably working he drives truck. So i do the same thing, give her alittle look and pay no attention to her. I then get a text on my phone and see its from her. We havent talked in a month up till now. The text says and i quote "Ooh u can buy me a cribbs jersey, but you cant even say hi. Whats up with that." I debate if i should respond, which i end up doing after sometime. and i text her back and say well i see your busy with your friends and dint want to bother you. So hi.
She then sits by me after awhile and what do you no. She slips me a kiss right at the bar. Which i pull away and say. I no u didnt mean that. She says sorry. I say no big deal. Well about two weeks after that. Which we were texting each other that whole time. She then text me and says she broke up with her boyfriend. she just didnt see it working out and she says that i have been on her mind more then i think and she really likes me and would like to get to no me better. She also told me she didnt want me to be the rebound guy because she thinks im a very nice guy and she didnt want to hurt me. i tell her i would like to get to know her better too.
So for the last two weeks now we've been talking and hanging out with eachother alot and getting to know each other better. She said she dont want to rush into another relationship right now and i totally agreed and told her she has to clear her mind and take time for herself. I even said that its prolly best that she stay single and we take it slow and see how where it goes from there.. So dawgs, it looks like i might just get my dream gal. But i just have to take it slow and go from there. I tried to rush it last time and i think i made her nervous and pushed her away. If its meant to be then it will be. We get along so good and im lovin it.. Hopefully everything will workout between us. Again thanks fellow dawgs for your advice i cant thank you enough and tell you how much it helped me. They say patience is a virtue, so true.
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Good for you.. Hope it all works out man..
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Keep your guard up. You don't want to be the old "standby" until something better comes along. I'd be keeping my options open until there's a commitment. Good luck!
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Keep your guard up. You don't want to be the old "standby" until something better comes along. I'd be keeping my options open until there's a commitment. Good luck!
Kind of what I was thinking to be honest.
The chick is a player.
I'd dump her, but that's just me, and my opinion doesn't count.
It's just the whole thing about seeing Kaz, then kissing on that guy,...that's a player move.
If you are a user, then use it as far as it goes. Me, i never did that. I just said Thank-you very much. I'll call ya.
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Hah, add me to the list of people thinking that also. Just the feeling I got after reading it.
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Hah, add me to the list of people thinking that also. Just the feeling I got after reading it.
Put me down for a 3rd on this thought.
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Im not a user peen. But i definetly understand yall's point. Im kinda thinking she might be a player also.. Dont really no what to think of her at times. I mean sometimes shes all cool with me and then sometimes it seems she doesnt even care. She's hard to read.
I might re think this whole thing with her.. Im kinda blank right now. Im having mixed emotions.. My heart says go with it one day and the next day its says the opposite.. I guess this is just a part of life and the stuff that is thrown at you at times. I just have to make the right descions. Thanks again guys and gals im really gonna think this over and see whats best for me. Im gonna keep my options open for sure..
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Keep your guard up. You don't want to be the old "standby" until something better comes along. I'd be keeping my options open until there's a commitment. Good luck!
Kind of what I was thinking to be honest.
The chick is a player.
I'd dump her, but that's just me, and my opinion doesn't count.
It's just the whole thing about seeing Kaz, then kissing on that guy,...that's a player move.
If you are a user, then use it as far as it goes. Me, i never did that. I just said Thank-you very much. I'll call ya.
I agree.
Run.
I married a "player". She looked great. Problem was, she knew it.....well, that and she wasn't afraid to use it.
About a year after we were married she went out with her friends. At 3 in the morning she wasn't home yet. I made a few calls, found out where she was, and went at got her at an ex boyfriends house. Of course, they were "just talking, and, she really liked the guys mom, and hadn't seen her in a long time, so she was visiting with her". Although the mom wasn't awake when I was there.
About a year, little over a year later.......she went out with her friends again. At 1 a.m. I called her friends house - where she was supposed to be. Why did I call? She had my son with her.
I was told she wasn't there, and hadn't been all night. So, I waited up. At roughly 2:30 a.m. she came home, with my son. A discussion took place and I found out she'd been boinking a 52 yr. old guy on the side. (and every other way also).
We got divorced as soon as possible.
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From your story - and keep in mind this is just my opinion - I'd say goodbye to the girl. She only seems interested in you when you don't seem interested in her and sooner or later that appeal wears off..and in most cases it's sooner rather than later. If she makes you happy, great, go for it, best of luck to you. But my advice is if you do decide to pursue this is to do so with extreme caution because your dream girl might not live up to those expectations and after all this back and forth that could be a tough pill to swallow, especially if you get attached.
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Damn arch very sorry to hear that. Thats messed up.. I really dont want to go through that. Im starting to think i might, if i try to take this any further. I mean the stuff she texted me when she was dating the other guy was not what i would want her to text anyone if she was with me.
She knows i have a big heart and fall to easy already. So maybe im just her boy toy until something else better pops up. Im really starting to think that. I mean i do think she is amazing and worship the ground she walks, but i dont want a cheater. I dont want to go through that. Maybe it was too good to be true and i should walk..Just confused.
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I mean the stuff she texted me when she was dating the other guy was not what i would want her to text anyone if she was with me.
I think this is the key here. The way a person acts in a relationship tells a lot about them. It might suck, but you'll bounce back and find the right girl. 
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No need to walk away, play it yourself and have fun. Just be prepared for it to end at any time. Don't get too heavily invested. You already know you can't trust her.
You don't need to plan the rest of your life to have a fun weekend or two.
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Don't feel sorry for me. I was there, did that, and got out of it - 21 years ago.
For the most part, players are players.
Reminds me of a joke.
A married guy went out with his friends. He got hammered drunk, came home hours after he said he'd be home....passed out on the floor once he got home.
When he woke up, there was a note from his wife. It said "honey, I cleaned up your mess from last night. I'm taking the kids shopping - we're going to get you an early anniversary present - that special thing you've been wanting for years. When we get home, I'm going to give you a massage, and then I'll make your favorite meal for supper. After supper I have lined up a babysitter so you and I can watch your favorite movie."
When the kids got home the dad said "what the heck is going on?"
The kids said "well, mom was pretty pissed off at how late you got home last night, and she was even more upset at how drunk you were. But when you puked and passed out, she'd had it. She tried to pick you up to get you in bed and you yelled "get your hands off of me, I'm married".
She forgave everything you did right then.
Players are players. Partners are partners. You can tell a lot about a person by just watching them.
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My advice: Have some fun with her but don't let yourself get too emotionally attached unless it becomes clear that the feelings are mutual.
And stop trying to go out of your way to be the 'nice guy'. Honorable as it may be, it's not helping you any.
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I understand completely nelson. But im the type of person that gets attached to damn easy. I mean i like having fun with her dont get me wrong, but i have a soft spot in my heart for her also. I was never really good at the friends with benefits thingy.. I think if i dont move on , i will be in for a big heartbreak.. Because i know she doesnt want a relationship right now and im starting to get attached.
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Hah, add me to the list of people thinking that also. Just the feeling I got after reading it.
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That's the impression I got as well.
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Just invite her to read your threads here and guage her reaction... That will tell you A LOT! lol.
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i along with most of the other posters think its in your best interests to move on. i personally would just go with it, get a little nookie till one of ya move on. BUT from the way you have described your feelings, she will break your heart.
there is nothing wrong with being a sensitive guy, wanting to find THE ONE, get married and have some morals. those are good qualities to have. but not for that girl. she sounds like the kind that chews up and spits out the good guys. they know you will always be there for them.
let her go, she will probably date the bad boys and have fun, then, end up w a guy that treats her like crap.
dont let her be Jenny and you be Forrest, you saw how that ended.
but thats just the opinion from the kind of guy she might date between nice guys. good luck
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I understand completely nelson. But im the type of person that gets attached to damn easy. I mean i like having fun with her dont get me wrong, but i have a soft spot in my heart for her also. I was never really good at the friends with benefits thingy.. I think if i dont move on , i will be in for a big heartbreak.. Because i know she doesnt want a relationship right now and im starting to get attached.
Just wondering why you think you'll be in for a big heartbreak? Is there some sort of history there or are you just obsessed? Honest question 
While I'm at it.. what's the aversion to FWB? Most relationships don't start without some type of setup like that, although often times it's more the undefined period between meeting someone and being exclusive with them. It's a similar idea though.
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Just invite her to read your threads here and guage her reaction... That will tell you A LOT! lol.
Really thought about that.. Wanted to give her this site and tell her to read this post and see if she wld talk to me again.(she is a big browns fan also). She just got out of a 9 year marriage also. So i think shes just looking for fun and nothing serious. To be quite honest im looking to settle down and slow down in life, been going 100 miles per hr for 31 years.
Im gonna quit contacting her and see if she will chase after me, like i use to chase after her. If she truly wants to be with me she will do everything she can to see or contact me. Im not gonna stress about it no more.. If her feelings become like mine and were on the same page. Then maybe we can get into a serious relationship. Thats all i can do i guess.. Thanks a million fellow dawgs this has really helped me.
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Just wondering why you think you'll be in for a big heartbreak? Is there some sort of history there or are you just obsessed? Honest question
Theres no history with her. Ive known her alittle from school and seen her around once in awhile. But just started talking with her in November. Ive had a history of heartbreak with other girls though, it seems to be my norm. I guess i get too attached and hooked when a girl shows me attention. I dont no why i do that. Have to work on that. And being obsessed with her, i wouldnt neccesarily say that. But i will admit theres something about her that just makes me head over heals for her. Its weird and ive never really felt like that about a girl in the first three months of knowing them.
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It's pretty apparent, in fact, glaringly apparent, that he's not that type of guy. So, why give advice like that? He's not looking to have some fun with the girl and move on, he thinks he found his "dream girl". That's a recipe for disaster if she is indeed a "player".
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Dude, follow what your heart is telling you. It is easy for people to say to dump. Her because they don't have feelings for her. You do, and if you just let that go who knows what you are missing out on. I am not saying to dive in head over heels but date the girl and see where it goes. You might find out she is not right for you, but how can you know that if you don't try?
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no : a negative know : to have knowledge of something
didn't : contraction of "did not" dint : not a word in the English language
Aside from that I have no advice for you.
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First of all Arch,, I've been where you were 21 years ago.. of course mine happened in the late 70's. Came home from work early to find my wife in bed with her college professor from Kent State... I kicked his ass out of the house. He sure as hell looked funny standing in my front yard, naked as the day he was born.....  As for the joke,,, good one..  Kaz,., follow your heart, but if possible, protect it. some of the "player" comments could very well be true in this situation.. again, good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for.
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Probably too late to join the discussion but I'll chime in....
It's not fair for me to call the girl "loose" or a "player" without knowing her. But, if she's young and seems to bounce around a bit...I'd classify it as her being "young and free". And you know what, that's perfectly fine (as long as you're safe with STD's). Young people are SUPPOSED to not get tied down too young. Meet lots of people, date a lot, nothing serious, and take your time.
Kaz, you maybe sound like you're looking for something more than just "having fun" right now. Like you see a longterm future with her.
You two might be the perfect fit, unless she's not ready to think like that. And if so, move on. If you're both looking for something else right now, it will only come back to burn one of you.
I know it's a cliche but there are indeed other fish in the sea.
It's too bad I could give this same advice to myself 20 years ago. I spent too much energy looking, searching, or trying to hold on to a specific young woman even though I wasn't ready to for anything longterm. If you're young, have fun, you'll find that someone when the time comes (and they'll be ready for you too).
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didn't : contraction of "did not" dint : not a word in the English language
Aside from that I have no advice for you.
That was a good one.. I needed that laugh.. Thanks.
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the more i hear about this girl, the more she sounds like trouble.
but hey, if you like her, go after her.
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Doesn't she have a kid too?
What about her cries out "dream girl"? She has baggage, she sends provacative text to others while dating someone else, she strings you out until someone better comes along ...
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Doesn't she have a kid too?
What about her cries out "dream girl"? She has baggage, she sends provacative text to others while dating someone else, she strings you out until someone better comes along ...
Yeah she has 2 kids but there older. Highschool. Good ball players too. She reminds me of myself i guess. I mean she wears browns stuff all the time. Gets into the game like no girl i have ever met. Loves all sports and would rather watch that then anything else. Hates pittsburgh with a passion. Has a great personality like me. We can joke with each other and not take it to heart. All in all she just amazing to me, but sometimes the old saying "If its to good to be true, it usually is.." Might be true in this situation.
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It's pretty apparent, in fact, glaringly apparent, that he's not that type of guy. So, why give advice like that? He's not looking to have some fun with the girl and move on, he thinks he found his "dream girl". That's a recipe for disaster if she is indeed a "player".
I've accepted that what girls say they want and what they actually want are usually two separate things. Similarly, I've also accepted that putting into words good dating strategy tends to make guys look like ***holes, even if it is exactly what the girl actually wants. It is what it is.
I could have just as easily posted something that sounds a lot nicer but would be much worse advice. That's not my style.
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She has kids in high school? Sorry, I thought you two were younger. I'm not sure what to say at this point.
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She has kids in high school? Sorry, I thought you two were younger. I'm not sure what to say at this point.
I agree...now my attitude changes...she knows what's going on...bang it until until something is worn out......I was under the impression you and her were young. She has been around the block, so take the stroll...it's just sex......
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I'm stunned. The way he described the interactions, we could only assume it was a late teens/early 20s type of thing. Let's see..... she's got teenagers, resorts to openly making out in a bar to get a reaction out of him, goes out of her way to keep him interested while in a relationship with another man.....yeah, that's everything I would look for in a woman. I think both have some growing up to do.
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What you just wrote made me think of Doctor Phil.  The rest of the thread reminds me of a 20-something soap opera.
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I'm stunned. The way he described the interactions, we could only assume it was a late teens/early 20s type of thing. Let's see..... she's got teenagers, resorts to openly making out in a bar to get a reaction out of him, goes out of her way to keep him interested while in a relationship with another man.....yeah, that's everything I would look for in a woman. I think both have some growing up to do.
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I'm just saying here - I was married to someone like this - the grass is always greener when there's new excitement to be had. And it will continue.
If he plays hard to get - she'll play harder, until she's in control. Then she'll play him like a fine tuned piano.
Knowing, roughly, her age......knowing she's been recently divorced.......this is someone you sprint from - not run to. And, again, knowing roughly the ages of the 2 involved..........texting your feelings........eh, that ain't the way to go. Seeing each other in bars.......not the way to go.
My guess is, being recently divorced, being 34 years old or older.......well, she's been around the block. She's a player in a big way. Great for a one nighter, or a monther or so......but nothing to take home. Not if you want any sanity and sanctity in a relationship.
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I think you guys are making a lot of assumptions without knowing this chick.
Making out at a bar with her boyfriend does not make her a player. You assume she did it to make Kaz jealous. For all anyone knows, her (ex)boyfriend could have asked her why Kaz was giving her the eye and she was honest and said he liked her and then the (ex)boyfriend shoved his tongue down her throat to mark his territory. Men do that, you know.
It could be anything.
Stop making assumptions. Jeez.
Kaz if you like her be good to her. Don't be manipulative and let the chips fall where they may. Stop thinking so hard and just enjoy it for whatever it is for however long it is.
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I think you guys are making a lot of assumptions without knowing this chick.
Making out at a bar with her boyfriend does not make her a player. You assume she did it to make Kaz jealous. For all anyone knows, her (ex)boyfriend could have asked her why Kaz was giving her the eye and she was honest and said he liked her and then the (ex)boyfriend shoved his tongue down her throat to mark his territory. Men do that, you know.
It could be anything.
Stop making assumptions. Jeez.
Kaz if you like her be good to her. Don't be manipulative and let the chips fall where they may. Stop thinking so hard and just enjoy it for whatever it is for however long it is.
Fair enough.
the way he described it, she is a player.
Note....in the first post on this I said tell her what you feel, to the objection of many.
Sometime love is a complicated thing.
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Legend
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I don't trust the chick.
Seems to me you let her know that you could live without her, and now she's trying to prove you wrong...
Find another woman.
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Legend
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Legend
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Quote:
You assume she did it to make Kaz jealous.
Heck, even Kaz assumed she did it to make Kaz jealous. 
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
#GMSTRONG
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