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And special thanks to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer, who pointed out the biggest irony of all:
Kiper sends Cam Newton to the Bengals in his latest mock draft.
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A league source later told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora that Newton also is scheduled to work out for the Tennessee Titans, Miami Dolphins, Cincinnati Bengals and Cleveland Browns.
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It would be irresponsible to not work him out with where we are drafting.
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I agree. We need the teams behind us to think they need to trade with us. Never know when/who will give us a Rickey Williams type offer.
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We're in an ideal position to trade out of 6 for another team to draft a QB.
San Fran at 7 is a candidate for a QB.
Tennessee at 8 is a candidate as well.
6 is a great spot because the contract money isn't as steep as it would be in the top 5 and the fact that anyone trading up needs to get ahead of these two teams.
I'd love to get a ransom for 6. including a future #1 if possible.
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With a 'new' rookie wage scale. It won't be as costly or risky for a team wanting to trade up. It could be a moot point for us if the Panthers trade out of the top slot to a team looking to draft who they see as the top QB and then the Bengals may draft one too at 4 or maybe they traded up to #1.
The point is that higher rated talent will fall so either way we could come out squeaky clean.
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Way the Panthers are going, they don't have a lot of trust in Moore or Claussen even. Wonder how Newton will work in a system as eight teams looked at him today. Here's hoping he won't be a bust.
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Why would teams try to trade with the Browns if they think they are interested in him? If anything, it would prompt a team to trade ahead of them.
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The truth is that they know that the Browns aren't interested in Newton (or really another other QB in the First Round) but that there are other teams behind us that are both interested in one.
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I think the Browns are bringing him in to help sell him to the Bengals. If Gabbert goes 1, I think the Bengals take Cam, Cards take Mallet and Locker may not make it past the 49ers lol.
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Why would teams try to trade with the Browns if they think they are interested in him? If anything, it would prompt a team to trade ahead of them.
fair enough, but it makes teams think we are at least considering him and that could prompt them to call us to see how much we really want him (if we are willing to move from our spot)
in all reality, if a team really wants Newton and thinks that any of the top teams will take him (Cinci, AZ, us, Titans, 49ers), then they will be calling each team as it becomes their turn to try to move up anyway.
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Either that, or if we KNOW we don't want Newton then we can try to make it seem like we do, which forces another team to trade AHEAD of us to get him. Which means we have +1 top prospect falling to us, be it Peterson, Green, or one of the big boys ...
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Or we want to find out if Newton really is a transcendent player at his position. And if we are 100% sure he is, we should take him.
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Either that, or if we KNOW we don't want Newton then we can try to make it seem like we do
Isn't the cat already out of the bag that we intend to start McCoy? Who's gonna believe we want Cam?
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You might be correct there Mourgrym because I don't think the Bengals would be buying the snake oil that is 'the Browns might look to draft Cam Newton if he's available at #6'. LOL It has to definitely be a 'if Cam Newton is available at #6, we'll be considering serious offers from any prospective suitors for him' type of ploys.
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Cam Newton = JaMarcus Russell all over again
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The guys in the front office have nothing else to do, really.
No free agency.
No trades.
No offseason workouts.
No communication allowed with players.
Might as well go see some college players work out. It's the one thing that's still going on in the NFL: the draft.
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Cam Newton = JaMarcus Russell all over again
I see why you would say that (both are big, tall, strong, black QB's from the SEC). But I don't agree.
Russell's main flaw was that he wasn't willing to work. He didn't study and got fat.
From everything we've heard, Newton is a very hard worker.
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Can't the same argument be made for the Bills having Fitzpatrick and having greater needs than a QB, as well as the Panthers having Clausen and not needing a quarterback, as well as the Cardinals just bringing in both Max Hall and John Skelton?
While every situation is different... all those teams have (some level or another) potential quarterbacks who might not be franchise guys, but all could start for at least a year and get better with talent around them...
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i'll agree on the Bills and possibly the Panthers. But, not the Cardinals. In Max Hall and John Skelton they do not trust (nor should they). I don't know if they take a QB at #5, but they definitely need a QB somewhere (possibly Vince Young)
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I've not heard that. I've heard that Newton is a scam artist and that he's also full of himself. I'd pass on him because he might be marginally better than Russell but he's not going to be a success in this league. If he was there in the 3rd round, I might take a flier on him but not even consider him in the 1st round.
Of course, that's just my own opinion.
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Can't the same argument be made for the Bills having Fitzpatrick and having greater needs than a QB, as well as the Panthers having Clausen and not needing a quarterback, as well as the Cardinals just bringing in both Max Hall and John Skelton?
I suppose it would if the president of those clubs named anyone of those guys as his starter.
Of course, now that the Browns are briinging cam in also, I guess that argument goes right out the window
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Way the Panthers are going, they don't have a lot of trust in Moore or Claussen even. Wonder how Newton will work in a system as eight teams looked at him today. Here's hoping he won't be a bust.
If the Panthers can't settle on a clear cut number 1 they will be looking to try and trade down. They have many needs and are a team in transition. Most likely who ever trades up at the top of the draft is looking to get the top QB (in their mind). All of a sudden your looking at some talent you did not think would be there at 6.
It's always more interesting at the top, but keep in mind that if we have a draft with no new CBA, then players would not be a part of any in draft trades and it's always easier to trade draft picks if you can get a player in return.
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Yeah, I have a real hard time seeing anybody in this draft worth trading up for, however. I'm not reading about anybody who's drooling over the top two QBs in this draft. I'd be surprised if Carolina is able to find anybody to deal with them.
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Yeah, I have a real hard time seeing anybody in this draft worth trading up for, however. I'm not reading about anybody who's drooling over the top two QBs in this draft. I'd be surprised if Carolina is able to find anybody to deal with them.
Someone might see a bigger Vick in him who knows. It's hard to rap your head around it,.....I know, but every year there are picks and trades that where seemingly in left field on a warm summers day with "Summer breeze makes me feel fine" playing in their mind, staring up at a jet streak across a clear blue sky as the ball drops in at their feet. 
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Yeah, I have a real hard time seeing anybody in this draft worth trading up for, however. I'm not reading about anybody who's drooling over the top two QBs in this draft. I'd be surprised if Carolina is able to find anybody to deal with them.
So... shouldn't that increase the likelihood that some GM is doing their job and not giving up secrets? 
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It's possible that they are bringing him in for a workout in the possibility that he drops to the 4th round or so where they could select him to back up Colt.
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It's possible that they are bringing him in for a workout in the possibility that he drops to the 4th round or so where they could select him to back up Colt.
Meh, we already have our Can Newton.
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It's possible that they are bringing him in for a workout in the possibility that he drops to the 4th round or so where they could select him to back up Colt.
I suppose. I get the feeling it's a smoke screen. If Cam is there when we pick, having him come in could give teams the belief that we might snap him up,, which could lead to a trade down and extra picks....,
Yeah, that's a long shot I know.....
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As someone else said previously, why would they trade with us if they think we will take him? Wouldn't it be smarter to trade with the team in front of us?
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Here is a long shot. We are bringing him in because we know he sucks. We are giving signals that we want to draft him. Cincinnati gets nervous and drafts him ahead of us. We are left laughing as Peterson or Green are there at 6 after bluffing Cin into selecting him.
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As someone else said previously, why would they trade with us if they think we will take him? Wouldn't it be smarter to trade with the team in front of us?
what team in front of us might not take him? panthers, broncos, bills, bengals, and cardinals all have significant QB questions. only denver is extremely unlikely to take him. heck, that's why we're all drafting this high, right? 
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Here is a longer shot ... it's called due diligence. Newton is a projected top 10 pick, and we're in the top ten. If all our top picks are off the board and three other top picks got involved in a 3-way motorcycle pileup the night before the draft or something ... and we're sitting there at #6 (or we trade back to #8 or #10 or something) ... we don't want to be sitting there with our pants down, not knowing anything about the guy when guys on ESPN and NFL are screaming, "OMG, they HAVE to take Newton here."
It's also possible to know if he's worth calling a bluff for. Lets say Cinci takes a QB, and San Fran and Tenn are sweating it out hoping Newton lasts till them. They give us a weak offer, hoping to trade up as well as bluffing a bit. If we worked him out ... and KNOW that he's good enough for them to really want, we could draft him and then hold their feet to the fire to get all the draft picks we want.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned in this specific thread or not, but I believe I have read it on this board somewhere recently.
We might want to know as much about him as we possible can for when we play against him (especially if we think he winds up in Cincinatti) ... get into his head and learn what he is good at as well as his flaws.
If we know how to fluster him and what we can force him to do that he doesn't like ... it could really help us twice a year for the forseeable future until he is out of the league ... IF the bengals draft him anyway.
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As someone else said previously, why would they trade with us if they think we will take him? Wouldn't it be smarter to trade with the team in front of us?
well the reason is simple,, look at the post after yours,,, as Buckeye said, if someone moves up above us to take Cam, then that leaves maybe someone we want to drop to us...
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Right.
But you said, "If Cam is there when we pick, having him come in could give teams the belief that we might snap him up,, which could lead to a trade down and extra picks...."
Why would a team that thinks we want Newton trade with us?
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It's possible that they are bringing him in for a workout in the possibility that he drops to the 4th round or so where they could select him to back up Colt.
I suppose. I get the feeling it's a smoke screen. If Cam is there when we pick, having him come in could give teams the belief that we might snap him up,, which could lead to a trade down and extra picks....,
Yeah, that's a long shot I know.....
It's a small risk, great reward move if it's an attempt to get a trade down for additional picks, although, I think that if the Browns' guy that they really want is there at #6, they'll select him and it won't be Newton.
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Right.
But you said, "If Cam is there when we pick, having him come in could give teams the belief that we might snap him up,, which could lead to a trade down and extra picks...."
Why would a team that thinks we want Newton trade with us?
Because they might think that we would be willing to risk him falling to their spot in the draft or that they might fear we would trade down to someone else that would trade up with us to select the person that they want or a combination of both.
I can't believe that it would be the first (since I don't think our FO actually wants Newton) so it could be the second one.
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There’s a reason we’ve sent Auburn quarterback Cam Newton to the Panthers in each of our last two mock drafts. We’re not just making the idea up.
Appearing on NFL Network’s late-night edition of Total Access Thursday, Albert Breer became the latest reporter to predict Newton will be the No. 1 selection in April’s draft.
“If you ask me today, Cam Newton goes to Carolina with (the) first pick,” Breer wrote on Twitter just before the segment. Breer added on air, “This kid has dealt with a lot of things. And he’s been a leader throughout it.
“I spoke to a personnel man recently. He would be ‘shocked’ if Cam Newton wasn’t the No. 1 overall pick. … (Newton) still remains strong there as the top quarterback in the draft.”
So add Breer to the growing list of NFL insiders who believe Newton will be chosen ahead of Blaine Gabbert, Marcell Dareus, Nick Fairley, and everyone else.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter is already on the Newton bandwagon.
And the newspaper that most closely covers the team holding the No. 1 pick, the Charlotte Observer, has been beating the drum for a Panthers-Newton union all along.
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