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Windhorst just reported that several Heat players were crying in the lockerroom after the game.
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Chris Bosh says he wasn't one of them, but I highly doubt that.
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Windhorst just reported that several Heat players were crying in the lockerroom after the game.
Not surprised considering the players. They thought teaming up would be an easy championship, didn't realize they'd have to work and try hard to achieve something.
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Windhorst just reported that several Heat players were crying in the lockerroom after the game.
Not surprised considering the players. They thought teaming up would be an easy championship, didn't realize they'd have to work and try hard to achieve something.
I was going to reply to you that he wasn't being serious...I then saw the link and it is true,,, I really love it!
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Bosh is such a panzi. He is so overrated. He reminds me a lot of Lamar Odom. You will need a strong center around him to be a championship contender.
If they continue to slide, and if they don't win a championship in 2 years, I would have to think riley breaks this team up, and trades wade. Maybe they could go after howard, paul or williams next summer. This group doesn't seem to have it. Yet Lebron called for 7 championships. Him and Espn has egg wiped all over their face. The cavs' team the past 2 seasons was better than this squad.
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Bosh is such a panzi. He is so overrated. He reminds me a lot of Lamar Odom. You will need a strong center around him to be a championship contender.
If they continue to slide, and if they don't win a championship in 2 years, I would have to think riley breaks this team up, and trades wade. Maybe they could go after howard, paul or williams next summer. This group doesn't seem to have it. Yet Lebron called for 7 championships. Him and Espn has egg wiped all over their face. The cavs' team the past 2 seasons was better than this squad.
If they don't win this year, I don't see them being better next year.
All 3 of them are getting older, and Wade especially has some mileage. They've given their draft picks and trade exceptions to the Cavs and Raptors. They have no tradable assets and no cap room to sign anyone worth a damn. All they can sign are guys like 90 year old Z (who I love watching him suck up the joint down there...he will not be forgiven for joining that piece of crap until his number is retired as a Cavalier)
I also hope LeBrick's knees explode soon. 
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i watched the game while eating wings out today, and caught the last minute at home. I felt a bit dirty rooting for the bulls but this season I'm in "anyone but heat" mode lol
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This is not true.
Teams can use the mid-level exception in the NBA.
But then again, who knows what the NBA CBA will look like.
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Assuming the MLE is still in place next season, I really don't think there are too many guys that would sign with Miami for the MLE that wouldn't for a vet minimum deal. Certainly not any game changers, at least. They'd just be getting paid a little more.
I find it kind of an interesting (and rather humorous) dichotomy with Miami. On the one hand, everybody and their brother knows that they lack a competent point guard and center. On the other, the notion that they're struggling due to lack of talent seems absurd when you consider that they signed two of the top 5 players in the NBA this past offseason. Fortunately for me, I don't think talent is the primary reason for their struggles, so I don't have to attempt to make that reconciliation.
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Part of me is starting to think James just doesn't have it, like many people think he does. He is not a guy taht is going to come through for you in the clutch. He did a few times with the cavs, but more times than not, he's failed at the end making big shots, or free throws.
Even gilbert said he didn't think lebron/wade would work. they're the same player, trying to do the same things.Thta's why I was surprised when he picked miami. To me chicago made more sense, having rose at the point to go with a noah/boozer frontline. Even the clippers made more sense than the heat.
In the end Lebron gets what he deserved. I don't have any sympathy for the guy.
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I have zero sympathy for James or Bosh. They thought that this was going to be the "easy way" to win a championship. They are the "super friends" ....... What could go wrong? Maybe the fact that 1 or 2 superstars can co-exist ..... but then you need a bunch of mid level to slightly above type guys who can fill essential roles around them. The Heat now have 2 guys with very similar games in Wade and James ..... and an iffy talent in Bosh. (I remember getting lambasted when I said that about Bosh prior to this season) They spent so much that all they have room left for are MLE and below types. That's fine for filling in 6th man roles and such .... or maybe even the 5th starter ..... but the Heat had to fill in their 4th and 5th starter with MLE and veteran minimum types. They had to do so without one of their stars being a strong post prescence. They are weak in the middle. Couldn;t have happened to a nicer bunch of guys. I wish them to continue their current level of success against good teams. 
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I still maintain that the best quote from the post-"Decision" interview with Michael Wilbon was the the one about how, with the three of them together, that there wasn't the pressure to play long minutes and score 30 points a night like there was with their old teams. I mean, seriously, is there a more thinly veiled way to say that you want the benefits without putting in the work? He might as well have just said "we teamed up so we wouldn't have to play as hard". The irony is, of course, that they're each playing right at their career averages for minutes and they can't win if the three of them don't combine for 75 points.
Also, I'm sure most people here knew about it, but Chris Bosh made a documentary about getting a tattoo. What a weiner.
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Teaming up Wade and Lebron was brilliant.
However Bosh has proven to be complete trash.
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Just reading some stuff on ESPN along the same lines as what you said...someone suggesting that maybe they should've not gotten Bosh and used that money on other supporting cast instead. It makes me wonder...does LeBron go to Miami just to team up with Wade? Or was it the prospect of having all three of them there that was the impetus? If he doesn't, does he re-up in Cleveland? Does he try to form a different Big 3 with Rose and Noah in Chicago? Amar'e in NY while waiting another year to get the star PG in CP3 or D-Will? What exactly does LeBron do if Miami decided not to pursue Bosh? Some food for thought.
On an unrelated note...I'm quite glad that I haven't seen that stupid-ass "What should I do?" advertisement in months.
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Actually .... I don't remember that many Lebron James commercials lately. Can't say as I miss them either.
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However Bosh has proven to be complete trash.
I don't know about that. One of the biggest problems with that team is that Wade and Lebron are essentially the same player. They both want the ball in their hands, and they both want to drive the lane and either make shots with athletic brilliance, or get a bail-out foul. So they don't complement each other at all. On the fast break they look awesome, because they're two of the top talents in the league ... in the half-court (which most good teams will get you to play), one of them is standing around doing nothing. And in most cases, the other three are standing around doing nothing as well. Both guys want to run the "stanky leg" and be a hero.
Bosh has turned out to be one of those guys that look great on a bad team because he's forced to do all the offense. But then you put him on a team with other players and he doesn't know how to play off the ball. So now you have three guys that really want to create shots off the dribble. Add to that ... Bosh plays more like a SF than a PF, and they have no added size in the middle, they can't defend anyone who has compentant bigs. And they don't really have a point-guard either, which most top teams have now. Just seems like a poorly constructed team, that happens to have 3 all-stars on it.
Lebron and Amare would of been much more lethal, as they have differing skill sets. Lebron and Rose/Nash/Paul, might work better if Lebron could learn to play off of the PG, rather than try to run everything through him.
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If they ran a princeton offense with Lebron being the "PG" it could work. Both would get the same amount of touches. With there high basketball IQs and passing ability it would be killer. The only problem is that they have Bosh.
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I'm officially over the NBA. It started a few years ago. Every year I watch less and less games. Yesterday was the first game I had watched all season.
While watching the game I couldn't help but think two things. One, the Cavs with LeBron were a better team than the Heat. All he needed to do was a little recruiting to put the team over the top. Two, if he really wanted to "win" as he claimed, he would've gone to Chicago. Could you imagine LeBron on that team? Instant favorites, IMO.
But LeBron wanted to play with his friends. That is all his decision was about. Look at his upbringing and his history. It had always been about his buddies.
On a side note, I was impressed with Rose the player and even moreso Rose the person. Loved how he beat himself up in the post game interview for putting his team in a bad position with two bad plays late in the game ...after they had already won. Humble, quiet assassin, team guy. Everything LeBron the person is not. Or maybe he is just spoiling Chicago with his play ...LOL.
LeBron is getting everything he deserves IMO.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Funny going back and watching this video. They were all so happy back then. http://www.youtube.com/v/pT-I8jQDQ7c
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"Once the games start, it's gonna be easy!"
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what an idiot.
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they're just not that good. they're better than what they showed yesterday and over the course of the last few weeks, but even at their best, i don't think they even remotely stand a chance at beating boston in a 7 game series. probably not the lakers and spurs too. all playoff tested teams with rings.
espn thinks you just throw stars together and you win championships. it happened with boston, but those guys are different players. none of them, including pierce. require the ball on every trip down the floor. they all sacrificed parts of their game for the better of the team. and they didn't just talk about it, they actually did it. as much as i hate those guys, at least they didn't throw a stupid party with the pyrotechnics and smoke and talk about winning 7 rings like it was going to be playing a video game on easy. they went out and did it.
some of the stuff that has come out of dwyane wade's mouth has been priceless. a few weeks ago after losing to the celtics again, he brought up how this was a "process" and he mentioned mj waiting for the pistons to get old so he could take over.
c'mon man.
and yesterday? playing the "woe is me" card? you can't play that card after that sideshow you guys put on a day after the decision. can't do it. everything is right in the world because the heat are losing? get over yourself dude. he might as well just come out and say "hey, we didn't ask for this!" so that everyone in the entire world can hate him.
i definitely agree that the cavs of the last few years are better than this current heat team right now. and no, it's not about taking lebron off both rosters and seeing what you have. it's about how the entire team worked. i hate that argument in sports. take x player off. why? at what point during a game does the ref say "alright guys, take your best player away, so we can find out how these other guys stack up" doesn't work that way.
lebron worked better with his "crummy" teammates in cleveland than he does with this paper lion in miami. true story.
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espn thinks you just throw stars together and you win championships. it happened with boston, but those guys are different players. none of them, including pierce. require the ball on every trip down the floor.
That's just it ... they're all complimentary peices. KG is a post-up big guy who rebounds and plays hard-defense. Allen is a spot-up three point assassin. Pierce has a similar game to Lebron, but he also doesn't feel the need to be the pseudo-point guard every time they come down the court. Add to that, Rondo ... who's a pure point guard and (what used to be) Perkins, who's your defensive cog in the middle ... that's a well constructed team.
Cryami has three guys that can only create shots off their own dribble, no point guard and no in-the-paint presence. Like you've mentioned before, it's like having a car with three engines, but bike wheels for tires, and ropes for a steering wheel.
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Exactly ... because despite not having any other "all-star olympians", everyone had a role and complimented each other.
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Also keep in mind that the Celtics won it once.. then haven't been able to repeat and while they are good, I do not think they are the best team this year.. if they don't win it this year they will be 1 for 4 since the big 3 got there..
Also, the year they did win the championship, Rondo was a pup who was nowhere near the player he is now.. a lot of that is on Powe, House, Posey, Perkins, Davis...
Funny thing is that if you ask Allen, Garnett and Pierce, they would probably tell you that the bench was the key to their success... LeBron and Wade probably don't even know their bench players names.
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Funny thing is that if you ask Allen, Garnett and Pierce, they would probably tell you that the bench was the key to their success... LeBron and Wade probably don't even know their bench players names.
They'd probably also be hard pressed to name the other two starters.
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Also keep in mind that the Celtics won it once.. then haven't been able to repeat and while they are good, I do not think they are the best team this year.. if they don't win it this year they will be 1 for 4 since the big 3 got there..
pretty amazing how 1 title can change how people view you huh?
seriously, those guys before they got together? pierce was just another guy on a bad-to-mediocre boston team that nobody in boston could've cared less for...
allen was a great shooter on bad teams in milwaukee and seattle with the exception of maybe one or two years where they won a series.
and garnett was known as a guy who couldn't get out of the first round, despite having a high seed and better teammates than they were given credit for, at times.
they win one championship where i think they were just that motivated, and it all goes away, and they have not won it since.
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It seems like the Lakers have turned on another gear since the All-Star break. Winning seven straight against mostly solid teams (Hawks, Blazers, Clippers, Thunder, T'Wolves, Bobcats (who they always lose to), and Spurs.
They end their current road trip against the Hawks, Heat, and Mavericks. If they can win two out of those three then that would be a very impressive trip.
Those games are followed by seven straight at home.
Phil Jackson probably had them resting/coasting pre-All Star break. Wouldn't surprise me if the finish with the #1 seed. No one can beat them in a seven game series if they continue to play like they are right now.
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Dwight Howard should be MVP but he won't be
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Agree.
Who is the second best player on that team? Jameer Nelson? Jason Richardson? Yikes. It's a LeBron in Cleveland situation.
Howard is out of there after next season.
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Houston is my bet.
Unless Lakers trade for him. They don't have the $$$.
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I'm sure they could trade Bynum. I believe his salary is close to 14 million. People have said they didn't trade for melo because they wanted to keep bynum for next season when howard is available.
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Lakers will do everything they can to unload Bynum's bad knees and worse contract so they can sign Howard. That is, unless he strong-arms Orlando into moving him before the end of next year.
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Jerry Buss' son Jim is the person who "discovered" Bynum. He doesn't want to trade Bynum. Quote:
worse contract so they can sign Howard
What is bad about Bynum's contract? He is only signed through 2012 with a team option for 2012-13.
And even the Lakers did get rid of Bynum they would still be far above the salary cap. They would have to move Bynum, Artest, and Walton (that is a bad conract) to be under the cap.
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What people? They didn't trade Bynum because he is seven feet tall and the owner's son "discovered" him.
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