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TB is in the AL East, how does that factor in interleague play?
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... or get a half naked cardboard cut-out of your boss and tear off a peice of clothing with every win. 
genius haha
man i used the joke "juuuuuuuuust a bit outside" in my best bob uecker voice with the baseball team i coach and they looked at me and the one kid said "yes, it was outside"
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What if your boss is ......... GM? 
Then start off with a nekkid cut-out ... and put on a piece with each win. 
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One of the reasons I don't care for interleague play.
If we take away interleague play, we should probably take away divisional play too. Ultimately, playing the teams in your division is more important that wild card positioning.
I say, open the whole thing up already. Move an NL team to the AL West and have at least one interleague series going on all year. It's fun having the Cards come to the Jake, the Red Sox at Wrigley, and the Dodgers play the Sox at the Cell, not just the proximity rivalries (NY vs NY, Chi vs. Chi, etc.).
We have interleague play already....let's embrace it. And come on, it's 162 freaking games. I don't need to see the Indians play the White Sox 19 times in a year. Mix it up more. Keep it fresh. The NFL, NBA, and NHL play out of their conference all throughout the season....why can't MLB do it too?
That would be #3 on the list I'd change if I were commish of MLB.
#1 - Bye bye DH
#2 - Expand the playoffs (but lower the games per series to make it about the same length)
#3 - Allign the leagues and have more interleague play
#4 - Institute a rule that mandates all international players must go through the draft
#5 - Expand instant replay. Get the calls right. Never let balls and strikes be part of the plan, ever. 1-2 challenges per game. Oh ya, and make it illegal for the manager to argue a call on the field.....that would make it a wash to have 2-3 replay per game.
I could go on....but that's about right.
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What if your boss is ......... GM?
Then start off with a nekkid cut-out ... and put on a piece with each win.
How are we gonna win with everyone throwing up ....?  
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TB is in the AL East, how does that factor in interleague play?
I think he means that one year, you can be stuck playing Philly, Florida and Atlanta in your interleague ... while the team you are battling in the wildcard might be playing the Cubs, Astros, Brewers and Pirates.
Look at us for example ... we get two series against the Reds, while the White Sox get a few freebies against the Cubs. 
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TB is in the AL East, how does that factor in interleague play?
I think he means that one year, you can be stuck playing Philly, Florida and Atlanta in your interleague ... while the team you are battling in the wildcard might be playing the Cubs, Astros, Brewers and Pirates.
Look at us for example ... we get two series against the Reds, while the White Sox get a few freebies against the Cubs.
honestly though, and punch probably knows, that series is almost always a split. i don't believe in that whole "throw the records out when these 2 teams play each other" thing that people always say about a matchup, but in that particular one, it's very true.
and punch i totally agree with your post and the changes you'd offer. except for not letting the manager argue on the field. i get a good chuckle out of an old fat guy in head-to-toe baseball gear going out and getting all mad about some call that didn't go his way. honestly where else do you see that?
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got it, I agree with Punch though that divisional games end up slanting it much more than the interleague matchups.
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i don't mind the interleague that much, i don't see a big difference in the tribe playing a series with the mariners or a series with the nats. both are kinda meh. every once in a while u get a fun matchup with a good team.
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#1 - Bye bye DH
never understood the animosity towards the DH. I don't like seeing most pitchers pretend to hit and I don't mind seeing professional hitters hit.
I do not want to see Travis Hafner in the field nor do I want to see Masterson at the plate.
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#2 - Expand the playoffs (but lower the games per series to make it about the same length)
I agree. I hate that winning the division means very little. I love the idea of the wild card teams playing a 1 game playoff the day after the regular season (and would like to see the 1st full round go back to 5 games).
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#3 - Allign the leagues and have more interleague play
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#4 - Institute a rule that mandates all international players must go through the draft
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#5 - Expand instant replay. Get the calls right. Never let balls and strikes be part of the plan, ever. 1-2 challenges per game.
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Oh ya, and make it illegal for the manager to argue a call on the field.....that would make it a wash to have 2-3 replay per game.
coaches/managers in all sports should have the right to call into question a call that they do not believe is fair. they should be able to get an explanation.
to make up the time though, I wouldn't mind a 'pitchers' clock at 15 seconds once the batter steps into the box. I loathe watching those pitchers who spend nearly a minute a pitch (or does it just seem that long)
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Well, it's a cookie to give the "baseball games are already too long, replay would extend it too far" crowd. Eliminate the arguing between two fat, old dudes that never goes anywhere and you have just shaved off 5-7 minutes per game.
I get that it's thearter....it's historic, part of the game. But really think about it, the ump NEVER reverses the call after a manager comes out for a talk. So it's pure wasted time. Give the managers a red challenge ball, you know they wouldn't want to throw a flag, and ban on-field arguments. If you want to be practical about it, if instant replay was an option, there would be no need to arguing anyway.
The only thing that is shared amoung all the sports we watch is my dislike of how managers/coaches are CONSTANTLY arguing with the umps. I was watching the Bulls/Hawks game last night....and both coaches are flipping out on every possession. One is freaking out that he just saw a defensive 3-second violation, while the other is yelling about a hand-check, and then you have the assistant coaches yelling about shooting fouls and illegal screens....and the whole while, the game is just being played while the refs let them play. Same thing in the NFL, NCAA, MLB, and NHL. These guys are so invested in their team they see everything, even the crap that isn't actually happening. I always respected the coaches that could just call their game and only react when it's completely obvious (Phil Jackson, Lovie Smith come to mind).
And yes, if the Cubs are good, the Sox will sweep them. If the Sox are good, the Cubs will sweep them. Their record is probably even right now over the past 10 years.
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Same with a batter too ... they shouldn't be allowed to call for time more than once or twice an at bat.
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Same with a batter too ... they shouldn't be allowed to call for time more than once or twice an at bat.
and that one is easily rectified. the umpire has to give them that 'time'. if they have a 2time limit then the ump can just ignore them after that.
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#1 - Bye bye DH
never understood the animosity towards the DH. I don't like seeing most pitchers pretend to hit and I don't mind seeing professional hitters hit.
I do not want to see Travis Hafner in the field nor do I want to see Masterson at the plate.
#1 - Well in the NL, the pitchers don't really hit all that much. Sure, the starters hit if they go deep in the game, but most are pulled after 5-6 innings and we see pinch hitters the rest of the way. So, we're really only seeing a few AB's a game by a pitcher.
#2 - If you outlaw the DH, we may see more pitchers care about learning to hit (help their own cause).
#3 - There aren't that many great DH's around the AL that would make me care less about replacing them with pitchers. Heck, Hafner is a good example the previous 3 years. I would have rather had a pitcher hitting instead of seeing him struggle at the plate due to his injuries.
#4 - I enjoy small-ball. Give me a walk, stolen base, bunt, sac fly over a solo homer any day. And a pitcher is usually a key piece in that bunt play.
#5 - The DH was added to baseball back when pitching was uber dominate. They lowered the mound and added the DH. We've been through a decade of steroided hitters bombing 50+ homers a year like it was nothing. I wouldn't mind baseball let the correction come full circle.
#6 - The leagues need to be operating with the same rules. It's a disgrace in my opinion.
As far as your comment about the managers/coaches have a right for an explanation....sure, during a timeout, commercial, or quick response from across the court. But a 5-minute tirade of tossing dirt, throwing bases, and flipping bats onto the field is like watching a 5-year old throw a temper tantrum because he can't play video games during dinner. It's embarrassing. There might not need to be a rule outlawing arguments if they can challenge the call on the field. Something tells me it's still needed, once that last challenge is used.
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not that we'll change each other's minds, but my counterpoints Quote:
#1 - Well in the NL, the pitchers don't really hit all that much. Sure, the starters hit if they go deep in the game, but most are pulled after 5-6 innings and we see pinch hitters the rest of the way. So, we're really only seeing a few AB's a game by a pitcher.
so, not only do we get the 'benefit' of seeing pitchers hit, but we get to see the better pitchers (starters > relievers) pitch less because their managers have more incentive to pull them early.
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#2 - If you outlaw the DH, we may see more pitchers care about learning to hit (help their own cause).
and most will still be far below the average hitter. not only that, but I want my pitcher purely focusing on the health of his arm and how to continue to become a better pitcher. more time in the batting cages means less time studying batters/pitchers film, etc.
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#3 - There aren't that many great DH's around the AL that would make me care less about replacing them with pitchers. Heck, Hafner is a good example the previous 3 years. I would have rather had a pitcher hitting instead of seeing him struggle at the plate due to his injuries.
Hafner has been injured and his bloated contract on a mid-market team has sort of forced our hand. How about this year's Hafner?
Also, don't forget that having a DH is a good way to give a guy a day off from the wears of fielding without losing his bat (for instance a guy coming off a knee injury like Sizemore or someone playing a taxing position like Santana)
or for a guy at the end of his career to tack on a couple years when he is a good hitter but just doesn't have the legs to be a fielder anymore.
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#4 - I enjoy small-ball. Give me a walk, stolen base, bunt, sac fly over a solo homer any day. And a pitcher is usually a key piece in that bunt play.
I enjoy small-ball as well. Watching the Tribe this year is a joy. And, hitters who practice reading a pitch more than a pitcher would still are better bunters. Especially since it's not as obvious they are going to bunt.
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#5 - The DH was added to baseball back when pitching was uber dominate. They lowered the mound and added the DH. We've been through a decade of steroided hitters bombing 50+ homers a year like it was nothing. I wouldn't mind baseball let the correction come full circle.
and pitching has been dominant the past 2 seasons. there are articles about the lack of run scoring (shutouts were nearly even with 10+ run games for the first time in 30 years last year and on pace to be greater than this year).
A's, Angels, Indians, Phillies, Braves...plenty of really good pitching staffs this year in both leagues.
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#6 - The leagues need to be operating with the same rules. It's a disgrace in my opinion.
I like quirks in sports. Makes it more entertaining and lends to better discussion. Good teams and managers should be able to adjust.
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As far as your comment about the managers/coaches have a right for an explanation....sure, during a timeout, commercial, or quick response from across the court. But a 5-minute tirade of tossing dirt, throwing bases, and flipping bats onto the field is like watching a 5-year old throw a temper tantrum because he can't play video games during dinner. It's embarrassing. There might not need to be a rule outlawing arguments if they can challenge the call on the field. Something tells me it's still needed, once that last challenge is used.
I agree that too many managers go to the excess in this regard. It should be setup that Umpires throw them out when they do and the fine the manager gets be in relation to how long it takes him to get off the field.
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Very good counter arguments for the DH. I see both sides, I just like my own better. Agree to disagree.  Quote:
...and the fine the manager gets be in relation to how long it takes him to get off the field.
WOW, that would be hilarious listening to the annoucers count up the fine on air, "10 grand, 20 grand, 30 grand....whoa, Billy walk to the dugout before your kid has to go to a state college....oh no, 50 grand!"
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Pitchers hitting takes the bat completely out of the hand of the #8 (and sometimes even the #7) hitter with 2 outs. It makes it so easy to pitch. I truly hate watching NL teams walk the #7 and/or #8 hitter(s) to get to the pitcher's spot anywhere up to the 5th or 6th innings. Boring. Yea .... let's watch the pitcher strike out with 2 on and 2 out. That's always exciting. I love watching a pitcher take 2 strikes right down the middle, then flail helplessly at a 2 strike breaking ball. Yippee, what fun.
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Well, that also turns over the top of the order faster. So in a sense, it can give the big bats more opportunities to affect the outcome of the game.
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