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I'm there. Thats a quorum isnt it?!

Any thoughts on what it would take to get Steve Smith out of Carolina? He's demanding a trade. Any interest in that type of scenario?

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I'm there. Thats a quorum isnt it?!

Any thoughts on what it would take to get Steve Smith out of Carolina? He's demanding a trade. Any interest in that type of scenario?




See ya then

Well, unless things change somehow between now and the draft this evening.. I don't know how we'd accomplish that..


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Carolina wants picks sounds like. Sounds like theyre looking to do this quickly.

But I dont think thats possible with the labor situation.

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Carolina wants picks sounds like. Sounds like theyre looking to do this quickly.

But I dont think thats possible with the labor situation.




Just read on another thread that while teams can open thier facilities to players tomorrow at 8am, there can still be no trades of players or FA signings etc.. So, I'm guessing that as things are at this moment, it can't happen


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Random Thoughts.



Brown in Cincinnati digs in, passes on Gabbert at 4, can subtley blame the tanked season on Palmer (possibly) sitting out, and put the Bengals in position to draft Luck next year.

Which is really just a long-winded way of saying that I hope Gabbert goes #3 or #5, and Peterson falls to us.

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I hope it's:

Cam
Dareus
Von
Julio (hey, he's ahead on their board, right?)
Green

Peterson and Gabbert fall to the #6 spot. We take offers and try to get teams to outbid each other. If it's not overwhelming, we still get Peterson. win/win


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I hope it's:

Newton
Peterson
Miller
Green
Gabbert
#6 Dareus

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well, to be honest, I do too. I just don't see it happening at all.

better odds for a DB dropping than a DL (at least that's what history says)


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Every team in the league can afford to pass up on Ingram in the first.




A team like the Saints, with a well established team elsewhere, and a real need for a strong RB, might see him as their 1st rounder. He catches the ball well enough to be a threat in their offense, and he would be the best runner they have had since McAllister.

95 yards/game and 9 rushing TDs are definitely areas they would love to improve upon.


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I hope it's:

Newton
Miller
Gabbert
Green
Peterson or Dareus
Dareus or Peterson

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REply 5 times yes.

It is a draft year that is held on a day that ends in a Y. ( Means its a year anytime in history)

The Rb position, isnt this the #1 rated rb in this draft? yep

Being a draft year that ends in a y means there's a chance the next hall of fame rb is here, means if you don't take him you passed on him,

Did the Browns have a 1400 yd rusher last year?
Was Kevin Mack a Bust because Ernest Byner was already on the team?

Have the Browns had a 1400 yd rusher in 30 years?

When was the last draft that this board had support for a running back 4 hours before start by anyone other than me and maybe one other.

Year that ends in a Y! ? Did the Browns have a 1400 yd rusher, or a 1600 yd all purpose back? If not can the Browns afford to pass on the #1 Rb on the board? They should at least consider it.

If they take the Rb is he the first Rb or will another team have picked one first.
Is there a chance this is the year the Browns Do Not pass on a hall of fame Rb?
No position can change the game like the Rb position, except maybe Qb.

He's out there somewhere! The next hall of fame rb is out there somewhere, and I for one don't want the Browns to pass on him.
Is it this year? probably not, But don't overlook this position.


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Year that ends in a Y! ? Did the Browns have a 1400 yd rusher, or a 1600 yd all purpose back?




Yes. Peyton Hillis had 1,654 all purpose yards last year.

Thank you, come again.



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Oh my gosh

There's never any love for the Rb draft pick on this board!

Draft a Rb, there's nothing better to watch than a back crash through a defense all day long.

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your post is pretty ridiculous, but i'll try to break out the finer points at least.

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isnt this the #1 rated rb in this draft? yep




to the majority, probably. but Ingram's knees have many putting LeShoure ahead of him.

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there's a chance the next hall of fame rb is here, means if you don't take him you passed on him




the same can be said of EVERY position. perhaps Ryan Mallet gets over his issues and may be a HOF QB. if we don't take him, then we passed on him.

do you see how crazy that sounds? it's a terrible reason to pick a player. they all have risk and grading is your way of doing risk mitigation.

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Did the Browns have a 1400 yd rusher last year?




Peyton Hillis had 1177yds, so no. However, he was on pace for over 1400 yards but without the threat of a passing game, teams really keyed in on him the last 1/4 of the season + he was getting worn down because we had no RB to spell him with. That is a reason to draft a RB (even with Hardesty coming back), but it's not one that makes drafting a RB in the 1st round a necessity. Far from it (you would think opening up the passing game would help more than spelling him a few downs).

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When was the last draft that this board had support for a running back 4 hours before start by anyone other than me and maybe one other.





That's easy. The Adrian Peterson draft. The board was 50/50 between Joe Thomas and Adrian Peterson.

Were the Browns wrong to draft a franchise LT over a franchise RB? I say no.

How about last year with Haden over CJ Spiller? Well, Spiller did close to nothing while Haden was a huge contributer.

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Year that ends in a Y! ? Did the Browns have a 1400 yd rusher, or a 1600 yd all purpose back? If not can the Browns afford to pass on the #1 Rb on the board? They should at least consider it.




Peyton Hillis had 1654yds from LOS last year. So, yes, the Browns had a 1600yd all purpose back.

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No position can change the game like the Rb position, except maybe Qb.




maybe? you are insinuating that Adrian Peterson changes the game more than Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning? Really?

there is a reason the best QBs live in the playoffs every year while there is no such distinction with best RBs (11/12 top QB rating made the playoffs.....only 5 of top12 rushers last year made the playoffs)

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He's out there somewhere! The next hall of fame rb is out there somewhere, and I for one don't want the Browns to pass on him.




he might not get selected until round4 or 5. last year the best rookie RB was Blount (UDFA) and the leading rusher was Arian Foster (round6). James Starks led the NFL in rushing in the playoffs (round7 rookie).

RB has proven to have talent later in the draft more than most positions. is the better talent usually near the top, of course. but, it's also usually pretty well known when a guy is a "once in a decade player" and he is drafted accordingly (ricky williams, ladianian tomlinson, reggie bush -- even though bush hasn't been healthy enough and isn't really a RB he was drafted as such)

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Is it this year? probably not, But don't overlook this position.




so, all of that you you think that this is probably not the year a great RB is there. well, thanks


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You mean like this?




Go away, please.



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It's a passing league now.


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+1

Build a defense to stop the pass (DB's and pass rushers) and build an offense to pass (QB, O-line, then RB/WRs).

Teams built around a star running back don't often go very far in the playoffs.


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Well, Draft Day is here. It's like Christmas for us Browns fans, and fans across the NFL.

Let's just hope Santa quits giving us socks and underwear, and upgrades to some high end electronics.

We've been good this year!


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I would call Joe Thomas socks and underwear. Something that not everyone appreciates on XMAS day but something you really need to live life comfortably.

But yes, I think the time for our franchise is to get more of the flashy electronics. He delivered a Blu-Ray player last year with Joe Haden, so hopefully we get the Kinect this year (Patrick Peterson).


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Wouldn't argue with ya on that my man.

AJ Green or Peterson for me. Need the WR BADLY, but man, Peterson and Haden holding it down, with Brown coming in? Niiiiice.


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Had a few Random thoughts...Wonder if the Browns are thinking about picks for next year..gives them another year to see if McCoy is the real deal..if not putting themselves in a position to have a shot at luck?

Also who would you rather have? Julio Jones or Justin Blackmon?


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I've been thinking the same thing. Two first rounders, one very high one if McCoy plays played, should be a good start to move up to the #1 pick next year. Especially if a team with their future QB is picking #1.

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I hope Hillis blows Josh McDaniels' wife a kiss when he announces the pick if she's there

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Goodell BOOOOOOed big time! WE WANT FOOTBALL!!! LET THEM PLAY!!!

Great start to the draft!


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I gotta say I am already tired of hearing the Cam Newton jock fest.

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They got to get it all out because they won't be able to talk with him after this 1st pick.

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Cam Newton on the phone.

1st pick down.

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I Love that everyone Booed Goodell! LMAO Here we go gang!!! Go Brownies!!!


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I think they ought to be booing the players personally.

Unfortunately no players union representatives are on the podium.

Panthers take Newton. No real surprise ..... but I question the pick.


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Jimmy Clausen just put his head back in the sand.

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Good Luck Signing Cam Carolina!!! JMHO Go Brownies!!!


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Better them than us...Cam is a flop

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Wow! Von Miller goes 2nd?

I'm stunned.


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The Donkeys got a Good one!


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I guess Denver think Von Miller is the real deal. We'll see...

#3 is up. I think Buffalo picks fast.


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