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I don't think the Browns are a team that can take a chance on a player that may or may not need micro fracture surgery. We lost out on Hardesty last year losing another pick for his rookie season isn't something I would want. But I'm just a fan, I have trust in H&H, bout all I can do.

The Hardesty injury was a freak injury......Im not worried about Bowers knee. The kid can ball, and has a TON of upside. Well worth the risk!

I guess the question is how much worry do they have over the knee. Someone said last night the dude has arthritis in his knees is the report. If that's the case I doubt he comes off the board until the 4-5 round. If it's just teams worrying about him playing next year then yes I believe the Browns will look at him.

Another thing to consider is does Bowers really fit our new scheme??? He isn't overly fast, and is more of an edge setter. I like Bowers, and if the Drs. are okay with his knee long term then the value there is just too much to pass up, but I don't know if he even fits our scheme well enough for the Browns to take him with any injury concerns.

Regarding Bowers....

There were rumors put out there about Taylor and bad feet and he didn't end up dropping. So most likely the rumors were started from teams that were hoping he would drop to them....(Pitt, Balt, Philly, NO, etc)

Bowers has had all sorts of rumors and he's dropped from potentially the TOP OVERALL PICK to being undrafted in round 1. There have to be serious issues where perhaps he "redshirts" in year 1.....do you want that? Do you think he'll be back to 100%? Is he a 1 year wonder?

Lot of questions....takes some balls to pull the switch b/c SOMETHING is wrong with the dude, it's not rumors at this point

j/c

I think we could see WR Greg Little with one of our 2nd rnd picks and maybe either DE Sheard or Acho or possibly LB Foster with the other pick.

I really wish we knew ... if he became the next Julius Peppers (reminds me of him from both being in the carolina area, both being lean and athletic freaks ...)

I wouldn't mind giving him a "redshirt" year the same way that we did with Hardesty ... he can be an impact NEXT year when we add 2 more 1st rounders as well ... talk about impact.

I dont care if we took him and the browns told us flat out "he will not play this year" .... as long as we knew he would have an 8 to 10 year career as a dominant D-End ...

I'm not sure people are convinced he is that dominate d-end with or w/o the injuries

I'd say the D-1 basketball playing Peppers was way more atheletic (think feet) then Bowers...just a hunch

That was my point PSU........if it's just a one year sit deal you take him. However, someone said last night the big problem teams found with him was arthritis in his knees.........if that's true you don't touch him, because he won't play but 2/3 years.

Got ya *(and you too wojo) ... I just wish I knew what they knew ... you know some team is going to snatch him up ... and I don't know if I would want to risk taking him as compared to having to play against him for a decade and knowing about the injury concerns ...

Heckert wants quick DEs that can get to the passer fast. Most of the guys who can do that are undersized. I think if you made trent cole 6'6" 275# but stayed as fast he wouldn't kick him off the team.

1. Sheard
2. Reed
3. Bowers
4. Torrey Smith
5. Randall Cobb
6. Greg Little
6. Titus Young
7. Aaron Williams
8. Edmond Gates

Just off the top of my head, I'd be ok with Hankerson and Brewer

I like what I see of Reed but...i'm not sure how he's going to be as a 4-3 DE.

Can he play that position in the NFL?

j/c
any chance we take a third down back-- Taiwan Jones; he would be a home run hitter.

I also like Titus Young or Hankerson at WR.

I think we are best off just sticking with best player available, whatever position that might turn out to be.

Wish i had the inside scoop on Bowers' knee. We can't be wasting picks but at what point does the risk/reward pay off??

I think the defensive ends will come in rounds 4 and on- i look for skill players in round two.

Jabaal Sheard Scouting Report
Projected Draft Position
by FFToolbox Writers
Jeff Christiansen's 4/29 Mock Draft Not selected
Rob Warner's 4/28 Mock Draft Round 2: #7 by TEN
Forrest N Long's 4/28 Mock Draft Not selected
Ben Standig's 4/28 Mock Draft Round 2: #3 by CIN
Randall Weida's 4/27 Mock Draft Round 2: #6 by ARI
Joel Welser's 4/26 Mock Draft Not selected
Ricky Dimon's 4/26 Mock Draft Not selected
Matt De Lima's 4/25 Mock Draft Round 2: #18 by SD
FFToolbox User Mock Drafts
4% used Jabaal Sheard in their first round mock.
The teams most often chosen were:
NYJ (16%), GB (12%), NE (11%), ATL (11%) Position: DE
School & Year/Status: Pittsburgh - Senior
Jersey Number: #97
Height & Weight: 6'4 - 260 lbs.
Ranked #71 on our Top 100 Prospects Board


NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash 4.69
Vertical jump 31.0
Broad jump 9'7

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2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

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Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
Until his senior campaign, Jabaal Sheard was often overshadowed by fellow defensive end Greg Romeus. Even now, few are paying that much attention to the 6-4, 260 pounder. However, that will change if Pittsburgh continues to improve what was a struggling defense. The Panthers are the only team in the Big East without a conference loss and if they keep winning, people will start paying attention with a BCS bid on the line.
Sheard is a three year starter who has been amazingly consistent. In 2008 he tallied 45 tackles, 10.5 tackles-for-loss and 5.5 sacks. A year later (as a junior) he totaled 42 tackles, 10.5 tackles-for-loss and 5.0 sacks. The problem was Romeus took away most of the headlines and Sheard was the unheralded complimentary player who benefited from Romeus being on the other side of the line. That changed in 2010 when Romeus went out with an injury. Sheard stepped up his game and helped turn around the defense. Through seven games he already has 30 tackles, 10.0 tackles-for-loss and 7.0 sacks.

Sheard is now considered by many as a better NFL prospect than Romeus. He is not as big, but he is just as strong and he is much more technically astute. What he may lack in pure skills, Sheard makes up for with intelligence and technique. If he keeps producing and has some decent workouts leading up to the draft, Sheard should not fall past the third round. If he physically performs better than expected, he could possibly even sneak into the first round.

1/25 Update: With Romeus on the sidelines for most of the season, Sheard took advantage and tallied 9.0 sacks, 14.5 tackles-for-loss and 15 quarterback hurries. The senior even forced a team high four fumbles. As a result, Sheard won the Big East Defensive Player of the Year honors and was named to a variety of All-Conference and All-America teams. Sheard did miss the BBVA Compass bowl with a minor injury and opted to have surgery to have time to heal before the pre-draft workouts instead of playing in the January 8th game.

4/8 Update: Sheard did not blow anybody away with his numbers at the NFL combine or Pittsburgh's pro day, but he did show that he is a balanced pass rusher who has the tenacity to make a big play every time the ball is snapped. The problem is he does not look like a traditional defensive end. He is small for an end in a 4-3 scheme and not athletic enough to be the typical pass rusher in a 3-4 defense. Yet, the fact is he can get to the quarterback and NFL teams are not overly concerned with his measurables. It would be a surprise at this point to see Sheard fall past the second round.



From FFToolbox.com http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2535#ixzz1KxDSlfPf

LOVE IT....Beside the pick, the value and everything, it really opens up the rest of the draft to pick BPA

I like the selection.

I think the Broiwns did too ...... they put that pick in really quick. lol

Most of the selections have been coming pretty fast in the 2nd round.

What is the possibility of the Browns keeping with the trend and going with another player on defense? I happen to think the chances are better than them taking a WR.

I could absolutely see them going with another DE, or even an OLB if one falls to them.

I do think they might look at a MLB in the 4th/5th.

We could very well use a WR but Heckert had said that he liked our WRs and that takes a little bit of the impetus to get one off of the team. Changing to a 4-3, we need lots of defensive players. We could very well take another DE (although we do have Benard and Roth could still be re-signed) or a LB at #57 too. I can see it happening. Even though we didn't get Peterson at #6, we could still draft to shore up the defensive backfield too.

It's even possible that we fall back and get a 3rd round and 4th round pick plus another pick next year.

Except both picks were mistakes... Should have been Reed and Cobb.

Sheard was more of a mistake than Little... I feel that Little can be a good player.

Little has some great Highlights:

the best, and worst, part of that video was the 2nd to last play where he blocked the CB all the way into the end zone (awesome) but then started taunting him (bad). In the NFL, that's 15 yards easy.

The one I liked most was where he locked onto the DB and drove him into the end zone .... and into the ground.

He looks like he's got good body control, good burst, balance, and decent speed. Looks like he can jump, and has great size. Hands look OK, if not amazing.

I didn't like that one.

Definitely not a guy Mangini would have drafted.

I don't know if that would be a foul. He said his piece, then moved away. He didn't stand over him for 30 seconds blathering on.

That's no worse than a guy getting a sack and doing a sack dance, or a guy scoring a TD doing his thing.